NY - UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson fatally shot in Midtown. #4

[armchairagatha]

An accomplice, either a hotel employee of the hotel BT was staying at “he has just left lookout for a guy in a blue jacket” or he had an accomplice staying as a guest at that hotel to track BT movements

I think most people are thinking of 20th century ways of tracking somone's movements. These days an "accomplice" can just be a hacked phone on BT.

 

[armchairagatha]

Oh, I don't know......the USA has had more than it's fair share of assassinations: Martin Luther King, JFK, Robert F. Kennedy, John Lennon, Ronald Reagan (attempted) to think of a few just off the top of my head......

That is 4 successful assassinations in the past 50 years (with 3 from the 60s). I think in Russia you will see that many in a month or a year.

 

[getthefax]

Gives me the effing creeps.

Scott Ratigan CCTV footage on the left.

This seriously looks like a woman to me.

 

[Van Helsing]

While this type of crime may be uncharacteristic in the USA, I think it is fairly common in Russia and other countries where top businessmen and politicians are frequently assassinated in public places (on the streets of Moscow for example). I think if we look at it from that angle, it is not that unusual (though doing it on the world stage on live camera might be a first). JMO

Makes me think it was a foreign assignation over some perceived UHC financial crime, since UHC is international. It is my understanding that a lot of other countries would not think twice about executing justice on their own terms. We've seen the Saudis do it. The shooter seemed to exhibit a sense of superiority the I associate with that. (JMO)

 

[CamilleBSP]

I find it fascinating that unsolved murders with a video of the murderer often go into “is it a man or woman?” territory. Missy Bevers, Liz Barraza, Scott Ratigan all have compelling videos, but we can’t decide the gender, let alone precisely who they are. I hope all of these murders are solved someday.

In some cases, that discussion makes sense. Not here, though.

 

[annpats]

I think most people are thinking of 20th century ways of tracking somone's movements. These days an "accomplice" can just be a hacked phone on BT.

That would be a 'device' though, not an 'accomplice'.

Accomplices are human.

 

[Deleted member 306806]

Plenty of middle class anti-Capitalist activist students, lecturers and young workers who don’t stint on their fashionable clothes, phones and tech stuff.

Or who buy from reputable brands with better business models and more lasting craftsmanship than Amazon, Walmart or Temu.

 

[annpats]

That is 4 successful assassinations in the past 50 years (with 3 from the 60s). I think in Russia you will see that many in a month or a year.

But not usually with a gun.

 

[CamilleBSP]

Hi, are you talking about when you’ve used a client (end user) application like ChatGPT? Or are you saying you’ve built and trained AI models that you’ve then tested? Because professional agencies aren’t using ChatGPT, they’re building their own client applications that are more robust, and building and training their own models to work with their specific type of data.

I don’t think training the models on different data makes any difference if we’re talking about AGI.
But I also don’t think this would work with narrow AI.
Anyways, we are derailing here…

MOO

 

[armchairagatha]

That would be a 'device' though, not an 'accomplice'.

Accomplices are human.

That is why I put it in quotes

 

[lonewanderer]

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This seriously looks like a woman to me.

Ratigan's case, Thompson's case, or both?

We have ran into this a million times, but usually speculated the perp is a woman when a woman is murdered by a strange figure on CCTV.

The Florence Salon murders, Missy Bevers, Liz B, Lane Bryant massacre, lots of others.

 

[Deleted member 306806]

I think there is a good possibility that the backpack was found and taken by someone who later dropped it off where they found it once they realized it was THE backpack. I think the DNA on it is likely compromised.

That would not be smart. If someone picked up the backpack their fingerprints would be on it. THe to dump it back off? No. Maybe someone did find it, rifled thought it for valuables, then dumped it elsewhere not knowing the connection.

 

[Jge24]

I think it is the eyelashes that look feminine.

My boyfriend has long, gorgeous eyelashes that I envy! Many men I know do. I personally don’t think that’s compelling enough to believe that this is a woman.

 

[MassGuy]

By now they've likely opened that backpack. Unfortunately it's the weekend, and many of the best reporters (with the best sources) are off for the day. Many outlets with live blogs haven't posted since last night. What's in the bag?!!!

 

[armchairagatha]

That would not be smart. If someone picked up the backpack their fingerprints would be on it. THe to dump it back off? No. Maybe someone did find it, rifled thought it for valuables, then dumped it elsewhere not knowing the connection.

you think a Homeless person is going to go to LE even if they realize this is the backpack everyone is looking for? They probably just rifled it as you said and then dumped it back whether they knew the connection or not.

 

[CamilleBSP]

They might have their own parameters for validating the credibility of a tip - they could look for certain words that indicate someone saw/heard something in first person vs second person. Or a tip from a person of authority like a doctor, teacher etc. Apply that to a large data set and you have a first pass of items to validate. Just some examples how they could go about it. MOO.

That wouldn’t require an AI, though.

 

[PawneeDew]

Apologies if this has been posted already...

UnitedHealthcare CEO may have hired his own killer—former police commander

The gunman that shot UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson is still on the loose over 50 hours later.

www.newsweek.com

 

[Deleted member 306806]

you think a Homeless person is going to go to LE even if they realize this is the backpack everyone is looking for? They probably just rifled it as you said and then dumped it back whether they knew the connection or not.

I don't think a person who realized the connection would dump the backpack back in central park, near where the suspect was. Unless they were dumb enough to not think about their prints being on the bag.

Someone who did NOT realized the connection might have dropped it found it, looked though, dumped what they did not want.

 

[CrimeDawg123]

But not usually with a gun.

Maybe BT's room didn't have a balcony.

 

[freewill_is_an_illusion]

I tend to agree but you could say that about anything in the US - if he was an employee someone would’ve outed him, his Neighbor, his ex girlfriend, etc etc etc. Someone has to recognize this guy and for whatever reason they haven’t come forward. Unless either a) he’s not from the US or b) he’s in disguise. And the photos being shown don’t actually resemble him at all.

I said this before but I think he normally has a beard. In the hostel photo his skin around his chin and jaw is much paler than the rest of his face. Looks like someone that recently shaved off a beard.