NY - UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson fatally shot in Midtown. #4

[SlimPickens]

Could a fake ID one purchases to hand over to an eager to serve you bartender also be used to coordinate a 10 day planned assassination in NYC? Perhaps, but I sure hope not.

JMO.

 

[arielilane]

He killed a high-profile CEO on a sidewalk in America’s largest city, where thousands of surveillance cameras monitor millions of people every day.

But the man who killed UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson outside a busy hotel keeps evading capture. Now, authorities say he might have slipped out of New York – meaning the elusive gunman could be anywhere.

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Why finding the suspected CEO killer is harder than you might think

Why is it so hard to get data from a phone?​

Police are investigating a phone found in an alley the suspect ran through. But extracting data from a phone can be extremely difficult, depending on the model of the phone and the operating system.

...

 

[FoxxTraxx]

Any sense of what bus the suspect would have taken from the George Washington bus terminal? Is it just Greyhound and Trailways that serve the station?

The suspect appears to be mixing up his transportation modes to keep the police off his tracks. I wonder if he rode the bus southbound into New Jersey, and then connected with an NJ Transit, SEPTA or Amtrak train, continuing southbound?

It's mostly Greyhound and NJ Transit buses leaving every few hours, plus some specialty bus services that operate occasionally. The trip to Atlanta costs about $100 and takes about 24 hours on Greyhound. He most likely reached Atlanta by the time investigators figured out his presumed escape route. George Washington Bridge Bus Services

 

[CamilleBSP]

Why go all the way to New York and carry out such detailed planning when same person could shoot him in Minnesota on his driveway or something, just doesn’t add up for me

He felt it had to be televised is the only thing I can think about…

 

[Curiousobserver]

I don’t comprehend how they still haven’t accessed the phone. It’s not rocket science. There’s very reliable tech that does this in minutes, i. e. Cellebrite.

Maybe he encrypted the *advertiser censored* out of it before disposing of the device? That’s the only plausible scenario, and would lend to him having no worries about the police getting the phone (except for the DNA).

MOO

Why did a lone gunman need a phone at all? He seems to have done fine paying cash everywhere.

 

[Mr applebee]

Why go all the way to New York and carry out such detailed planning when same person could shoot him in Minnesota on his driveway or something, just doesn’t add up for me

Surely the same logic applies if it was a hit by anyone else? Why did they go all the way to New York when they could shoot him on his driveway in Minnesota.

 

[JDG]

The mayor’s office later clarified his answer to explain that he meant officials didn’t want to say whether or not they have the killer’s name.

They don’t have diddly at the moment. LOL

 

[Agatha3]

I have wondered how the shooter would have the confidence to know he'd be able to identify BT in the instant he exited the hotel. What if BT were bundled up against the cold. How would the shooter have been sure it was him?

Cos he knows him well or has studied him well.

 

[Jamara3]

Has it been confirmed as fake or just not his? He could have swiped it while in town at a bar or somewhere. He is a generic white guy and if the only person looking at it was the hostel front desk they may not have given it too hard a look anyways. Hostels are popular for staying semi off grid so they may not look hard on purpose I don’t know.

I believe I read in an article that (i suppose LE?) stated that there wasn’t any individual in the state of NJ with the name on the license.

 

[kaen]

Could a fake ID one purchases to hand over to an eager to serve you bartender also be used to coordinate a 10 day planned assassination in NYC? Perhaps, but I sure hope not.

JMO.

Where was he using the ID? At the hostel, I am sure they are not on the lookout for a fake. They just want to be paid-- he probably paid in cash. I am also sure they didn't make a copy. When I used hostels elsewhere, no one was making copies. Although when I have taken the bus or the train long distances, it was marked on the ticket that ID was required but I have never had one asked for. Doubt he used a credit card or atm machine 'cause they would know by now if he did. ID was probably noted by state and number at hostel and a run on that ID proved false.

 

[MassGuy]

Maybe someone from near Atlanta going to school in New Jersey gets an ID there to be able to go to bars?

You generally don’t want a fake ID from the state you are living in. Any tiny mistake, and a bartender or someone is likely to notice it.

 

[Stunned]

Could he be participating in an online assassin's game that is just starting?

 

[CamilleBSP]

Could he be participating in an online assassin's game that is just starting?

No. That’s crazy to even think about.

 

[ElizaKate]

It came out a few pages ago that he didn’t actually leave for a night. The hostel has an automated check out system. He didn’t get in that night in time, so he was automatically checked out. It says he checked in the next day, but I’m **assuming** the situation was something like he was out late at night and he returned past midnight - causing him to check back in.

Oh really! I've been following intensely and missed this. Have you got a source link please?

 

[thefragile7393]

Cos he knows him well or has studied him well.

his face is on the united healthcare website...or was. Leadership always has their faces on these sites

 

[thefragile7393]

Could he be participating in an online assassin's game that is just starting?

ah no

 

[Agatha3]

Money would only be an issue in that it is possible he only brought so much cash and now needs access to this bank accounts on the run. He does not want to have to use a debit/credit card.

He could use his own credit or debit card if the identity he has been seen to be using is all fake. And he similarly could use his own passport. All assuming he is “clean” in his own life. As for DNA, same applies. If he’s been a good boy up to now he won’t be on a database.

 

[SlimPickens]

If they had this cat's name, we wouldn't be viewing a couple of pixelated photos. They'd have the perp's IG page plastered all over the city (and country). I can't recall a time that LE intentionally withheld the identity of an imminently dangerous suspect merely to keep an investigation close to the vest. Public safety take priority over investigative integrity.

JMO.

 

[BrianJohnson]

Surely the same logic applies if it was a hit by anyone else? Why did they go all the way to New York when they could shoot him on his driveway in Minnesota.

This is the most puzzling case I can ever remember. He was only in NYC day before his assassination so unlikely to be a disgruntled rent boy who was dumped/not paid or a drug deal gone wrong, the killer was in NYC for 10 days

 

[getthefax]

The fake ID angle is interesting for sure. It is not easy to make a certifiable fake ID anymore. If it was a good enough ID to pass scanners, that potentially brings government actors into play - whether it be as small as a local DMV employee or as large as an intelligence agency in another country.

JMO.

I bet hostels and maybe some smaller bus stations don’t use ID scanners, just look them over visually for comaparison…?