NY - UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson fatally shot in Midtown. #7 *Arrest*

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  • #701
I don't know, but what I do know is murder isn't the answer. I mentioned yesterdays also, but each of us likely have family members working in a job or related to a job that another group of people might find problematic. We don't get to just decide that a CEO is the problem and take them out. If this is seen as "okay" because of what his job was, then anyone and everyone could be one someone else's hit list just because they have a problem with what you do for a living. Student loan lenders, universities charging too much for an education, jobs not paying enough, things cost too much. Where is the line drawn if killing anyone is acceptable just because they lead a company that causes issues for others?
what you’re describing is a revolution, and for a country with millions upon millions of angry, desperate people this incident should be the canary in the coal mine.
 
  • #702
So glad LM caught before he possibly kills again. Well done, by LE, female at hostel, McD employee, and anyone else I missed. moo
 
  • #703

TrueCar confirms suspect is a former employee​

TrueCar, a digital retailing website for new and used cars, has confirmed to the BBC that Luigi Mangione was an employee of their company.

"While we generally don't comment on personnel matters, we can confirm that Luigi Mangione has not been an employee of our company since 2023," a spokesperson says in a statement.

According to a Linkedin profile with the same name as the suspect, Mangione worked at TrueCar as a data engineer.

Hmm, did he get laid off? That might have been an insult to someone like him who had never failed in life before. Couple that with a back injury and perfect recipe for a downward spiral and anger against corporations in general.
 
  • #704
CBS News / WJZ News Baltimore online December 9, 2024 report by Adam Thompson entitled ‘Luigi Mangione, person of interest in UnitedHealthcare CEO shooting, is related to prominent Maryland family’:

Luigi Mangione, person of interest in UnitedHealthcare CEO shooting, is related to prominent Maryland family
Luigi Nicholas Mangione, a person of interest in the murder of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson in New York City, is related to a prominent family in Maryland.
www.cbsnews.com
www.cbsnews.com

Of note from the article: Some of the family businesses as mentioned up thread are noted in the above article. According to the article, the family businesses include also the Lorien Health Services nursing homes. Additional information is in The Baltimore Banner a related publication.

MOO
 
  • #705
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Despite romantic narratives about this guy, there is no way a judge will give him a light sentence after killing a man on a city sidewalk in cold blood.

There is nothing about our judicial system that will compare Luigi's, Brian's, and countless patients lives against each other to decide what is a fair judgement. That's not how it works. Luigi's actions will be weighed against the laws he broke, the most serious laws on the books, and he will judged on that, as are all defendants.

jmo
Agree. It was premeditated, he was lying in wait. I hope he never tastes freedom again.
 
  • #706
Personally, I think depression set in during this period. I think he was unhappy with his job(s) and was unable find a clear direction in his life. Couple that with the possibility of his dealing with chronic pain and the anger he may felt having to rely on his family for his health care. He may also have felt pressure to live up to his family's grand expectations of him considering the amount of money they spent on his education, so he may have felt like a failure.

Feeling chronically angry and bitter can cause poor judgment and impulsive actions, but no excuses here...he needs to man up and take full responsibility. I'm hoping he will avoid dragging his family through a lengthy trial and just enter a guilty plea.
Agree on everything.
And, on off the topic of this post, aside: I don't see arrogance in the mug shot, but sobriety. Hopefully, he's prepared to accept the punishment. (I say that, but who does? Even if he has initially decided to do so, I think attorneys get in and talk clients out of that, pronto. We shall see.)
 
  • #707
I don't know, but what I do know is murder isn't the answer. I mentioned yesterdays also, but each of us likely have family members working in a job or related to a job that another group of people might find problematic. We don't get to just decide that a CEO is the problem and take them out. If this is seen as "okay" because of what his job was, then anyone and everyone could be one someone else's hit list just because they have a problem with what you do for a living. Student loan lenders, universities charging too much for an education, jobs not paying enough, things cost too much. Where is the line drawn if killing anyone is acceptable just because they lead a company that causes issues for others?
Eloquent, Justtrish!
 
  • #708

Leaked video recorded ONE DAY after BT’s death of Witty defending the UHC claim denial practice.
 
  • #709
Hmm, did he get laid off? That might have been an insult to someone like him who had never failed in life before. Couple that with a back injury and perfect recipe for a downward spiral and anger against corporations in general.
Good point - especially because the market is rough for data engineers and start ups.
 
  • #710
So I was just at a cafe where a lot of young college students go. All working on their laptops. There was a kid (20's) next to us that was a dead ringer for this guy. I mean looked just like him. I have to think there are so many guys out there that look a whole lot like this guy. It is clearly LM in the pictures, but without a mask on or the hoodie out in the wild, I would never think it was him. I have to think at the McDonald's he was wearing the mask and possibly the hoodie. I would think that is the only way for him to have been recognized by somebody. If he was just in a normal jacket and no mask, I don't think anybody calls the cops.
 
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Looks like everything fell apart for him in 2023, last year. The injury, detaching from friends, not working at TrueCar anymore, self isolating, family trying to get in touch > depression, pent up anger and internalized rage, and likely loss self worth leading to all this.
 
  • #713
If you are truly more saddened by this case than by the millions of people who suffer daily in this country due to our abhorrent medical system, I don’t know what to say to you. Consider yourself lucky that you or your loved ones have never been the victim of healthcare in the US. I hope that day never comes for you or any of them. But it could.

My family went through it when my twin was diagnosed with breast cancer when we were 31, and are going through it now with my mother in a home for end-stage dementia plus a broken hip which crippled her.

Nothing would make me murder the CEOs.

JMO
 
  • #714
Agree on everything.
And, on off the topic of this post, aside: I don't see arrogance in the mug shot, but sobriety. Hopefully, he's prepared to accept the punishment. (I say that, but who does? Even if he has initially decided to do so, I think attorneys get in and talk clients out of that, pronto. We shall see.)
Same, I don’t see arrogance but he seems very downcast. If he has already spoken to his parents, then it will be even more real to him now. They must be heartbroken.
 
  • #715
I was reading up on federal murder and when it can be charged.

Crossing state lines to commit murder is listed. I wonder if they would consider this.
 
  • #716
Assuming he doesn’t plead guilty, I wouldn’t be surprised if he (or his legal team) tries to use mental illness stemming from chronic pain as a defense or as a mitigating factor at sentencing. MOO.
 
  • #717
30m ago

Officials trying to determine where X-ray of back with screws came from​


Tom Winter and Jonathan Dienst
A post on one of Mangione’s social accounts features an X-ray of a back with screws in it. Investigators are working to determine whether the X-ray is his or that of a relative and whether it has anything to do with Thompson's slaying, two senior law enforcement officials told NBC News.

 
  • #718
(Respectfully snipped and bolded) Ooh I think you might have a really good point about his age (26) being significant. That’s when we get kicked off our parents’ plans here in the US for anyone who didn’t know…
Correction: His parents may still be alive. I confused them with his grandparents.

JMO.
 
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Agree on everything.
And, on off the topic of this post, aside: I don't see arrogance in the mug shot, but sobriety. Hopefully, he's prepared to accept the punishment. (I say that, but who does? Even if he has initially decided to do so, I think attorneys get in and talk clients out of that, pronto. We shall see.)
A defense attorney’s job is not to talk a client out of accepting responsibility—it’s quite the opposite in reality! But no competent attorney is going to allow a client to plead guilty before having a chance to review evidence, talk to the prosecutors, etc.
 
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