NY - UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson fatally shot in Midtown. #9 *Arrest*

[K.jill]

People donated $30K to Luigi Mangione's defense as experts warn donors to be careful

Thousands of dollars have been donated to support the defense of Luigi Mangione, but experts urged donors to be cautious.

www.usatoday.com

Though Luigi Mangione comes from a wealthy and prominent family, anonymous online donors have chipped in thousands of dollars to fund his legal defense against charges connected to the killing of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson.

One fundraiser on the Christian-based free speech fundraising platform GiveSendGo had raised more than $31,000 as of Wednesday afternoon on the way to a $200,000 goal. The New Jersey-based fund was created by a newly-formed "December 4th Legal Committee," possibly referencing the date of the shooting.

Amazing, but not necessarily in a good way.
Do people not understand how this looks ?
Imo.

This is crazy! Advertiser censored, advertiser censored, advertiser censored…!

 

[ttjo]

Sadly, this case is going to change nothing in the system. The CEOs are doubling down on security as if that is the issue. They are paid big bucks to think like this? Baffling.

Unbelievable, zero accountability. They choose to ignore the obvious. The injustice of it would be infuriating for some people. There is a website where you can review their services, 2400 reviews and 92% gave them 1 star. with an overall rating of 1.2 stars. I dont want to fuel the fire but I have to post the source.

United Health Care Reviews: Written By Customers in Feb, 2025 | Page 2

I am not certain if this is the proper entity that I am supposed to be expressing my concerns and complaints to; but I will appreciate if this email can ... (Page 2)

www.consumeraffairs.com

 

[schooling]

Sadly, this case is going to change nothing in the system. The CEOs are doubling down on security as if that is the issue. They are paid big bucks to think like this? Baffling.

Lose billions by being ethical, moral, helpful and showing empathy...

Vs

Spend millions on security to protect your executives...


"We have a fiscal responsibility to do what's best for our shareholders..."

 

[Van Helsing]

As I understand it, you are given steroids after this type of surgery and that gives you a false sense of healing. I recall my brother being warned by his surgeon that even though he may have felt better, he was not. He was told the steroids would make him think he was better and ready for activity but he could do himself harm if he did not restrain himself and abide by the recovery protocol.

Yes. My wife was told the same thing. After his surgery LM was on Reddit advising others to not wait and get the surgery, ... (as posted here earlier). He may have gotten complacent and injured himself or damaged the repair.

 

[DizzyB]

I don’t even see the back pain as a plausible motive at this point. We don’t have evidence of a “John Q” situation. I think LM went after someone he believed to be a symbol of corruption and greed. Another person posted the pathway to violence graphic a few times. I think the back pain may have been an early, early antecedent, but it got swallowed up in his thought disorder and radicalization.

Rewatching him lash out during the PA transfer, he sure didn’t look like he was in major pain after sleeping in a hostel bed for ten days, running across the street with a backpack containing all of his belongings and murdering a CEO, hopping onto a bike and then making his way to a bus station, spending another how many days on the run on buses and sleeping who knows where.

He supposedly moved to Hawaii to repair his health. Was he that bad off, or was his obsessive nature leaning toward madness?

https://www.wsj.com/us-news/luigi-mangione-what-happened-to-accused-uhc-shooter-5d1e570d

 

[al66pine]

Here is the full quote from the article
"Bhogal previously gave DailyMail.com an insight into Mangione's political views, including that he is, in his friend's opinion, 'anti-woke'.
....
I don't recall ever hearing the term effective altruism. It means pretty much what you might think but here is the
quick wikipedia definition

Effective altruism - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

JMO"

snipped for focus @waldojabba Thx for your post.

One supposed believer in "effective altruism" was/is
Sam Bankman-Fried founder of the cryptocurrency exchange FTX, who said he "wanted to give as much as he could."
His "relationship with effective altruism has been called into question as a public relations strategy..."^ from ^ linked wiki.
IIRC more of his contrib's were made to elected officials in
Congress, to political candidates, to political parties, to PAC's, than to any actual 501c3 charitable org's.
Just an example of a self-proclaimed Effective Altruist giver, I'm not saying he is typical.

I also recall reading a book about SB-F, published post-arrest & pre-trial. Sorry, cannot recall the title.

"Effective altruism" seems like a squishy concept, open to many different interps, some good & genuine, some not. jmo

The wiki link was informative. TYVM agn.

 

[acutename]

Is there a certain aspect of the case keeping them from charging LM with first degree murder at this point? Does that charge require motive?

some one posted the NY murder statute up thread- first degree reserved for murder of LE, murder of a witness, murder for hire

 

[Tillyjames]

Not a legal expert, but it would go to motive.

It's not something that has to be proven in court, but juries like to know that answer.

Dbm

 

[Van Helsing]

SMH, disgraceful. IMO.

“A self-described socialist professor at the University of Pennsylvania seemingly celebrated the murder of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson in now-deleted social media posts that embraced accused killer Luigi Mangione as an “icon.”

“Julia Alekseyeva, an assistant professor of English and Cinema & Media Studies at the Ivy League school, who goes by “The Soviette” on social media, posted a video to TikTok of her smiling as the song “Do You Hear the People Sing?” from the musical “Les Misérables” played. “

“The since-deleted post, made after the alleged assassin was taken into custody Monday, was captioned: “Have never been prouder to be a professor at the University of P3nnsylvania (sic).””

https://nypost.com/2024/12/11/us-news/socialist-upenn-professor-hides-social-media-after-celebratory-post-about-ceo-murder-suspect-goes-viral/I’m

I wonder if the activist mentality of Ivy league professors contributed to his antisocial mental state.

 

[TTF14]

"Effective altruism" seems like a squishy concept, open to many different interps, some good & genuine, some not. jmo

rsbm

Quite squishy! The word effective, is, after all, usually pretty subjective.

JMO

 

[mrstfs]

Looks like LM didn’t actually make it to Pittsburgh-

“Pittsburgh Police told Pittsburgh's Action News 4 Wednesday that Luigi Mangione was not seen to have taken a Greyhound Bus to Pittsburgh after the shooting of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson on Dec. 4.”

Suspect connected to UnitedHealthcare CEO shooting came to Pittsburgh, police say

Police said Mangione traveled across Pennsylvania, from Philadelphia to Pittsburgh. He was arrested after being spotted at a McDonald's restaurant in Altoona.

www.wtae.com

 

[fred&edna]

dbm - nevermind I was wrong

 

[IzzyBlanche]

I wonder if the activist mentality of Ivy league professors contributed to his antisocial mental state.

I really don't think Ivy League professors are a monolith.

 

[MassGuy]

Evidently, LM felt his back was well enough for a surf lesson (per roommate interview). How soon after the surgery did the surf-lesson happen? Do others with that many surgical screws in their spine usually head out for surfing?? Maybe it's typical, I have no idea.

jmo

The surgery came after. While in Hawaii, he was talking about getting stronger in preparation for that surgery.

Jumping off of this, he apparently had that surgery in July of 2023. He posted a couple weeks later that the surgery worked, but this article says that it can take up to a year to heal.

So maybe he was not in fact better.

Reddit posts linked to Luigi Mangione describe back pain, surgery

The archived posts include comments on a subreddit focused on spondylolisthesis, a condition in which a bone in the spine slips out of alignment.

www.nbcnews.com

 

[Chimera]

The prison that LM is being housed in is having a rollicking good time, yelling out the windows to the press.Banfield is literally asking them questions and they are yelling out the answers. No, Luigi does not have TV in his single cell, according to the yellers. Food sucks too.

Someone mentioned this case was going to become a 'circus' .....
Hm.
Imo.

 

[fred&edna]

The surgery came after. While in Hawaii, he was talking about getting stronger in preparation for that surgery.

Jumping off of this, he apparently had that surgery in July of 2023. He posted a couple weeks later that the surgery worked, but this article says that it can take up to a year to heal.

So maybe he was not in fact better.

Reddit posts linked to Luigi Mangione describe back pain, surgery

The archived posts include comments on a subreddit focused on spondylolisthesis, a condition in which a bone in the spine slips out of alignment.

www.nbcnews.com

Thank you! I realized about a minute ago my post was so full of incorrect info and I deleted it. lol! I had one of those moments my brain must have left my body

jmo

 

[Sundog]

I just don't get it either. I wouldn't rule out family estrangement playing a role in all this.

Along that line of thinking, I wonder why there was no one representing his family at his first court appearance.

 

[MassGuy]

Here's a Banfield interview with a former inmate at Riker's, where LM will likely be held while awaiting trial. As most of us know from following these cases, it ain't a pleasant place.

It also addresses his current conditions in Pennsylvania (Huntington Prison).

 

[Parsnip]

snipped for focus @waldojabba Thx for your post.

One supposed believer in "effective altruism" was/is
Sam Bankman-Fried founder of the cryptocurrency exchange FTX, who said he "wanted to give as much as he could."
His "relationship with effective altruism has been called into question as a public relations strategy..."^ from ^ linked wiki.
IIRC more of his contrib's were made to elected officials in
Congress, to political candidates, to political parties, to PAC's, than to any actual 501c3 charitable org's.
Just an example of a self-proclaimed Effective Altruist giver, I'm not saying he is typical.

I also recall reading a book about SB-F, published post-arrest & pre-trial. Sorry, cannot recall the title.

"Effective altruism" seems like a squishy concept, open to many different interps, some good & genuine, some not. jmo

The wiki link was informative. TYVM agn.

Squishy, indeed, @al66pine . Thank you for providing a backstory!

 

[I am not Sherlock H.]

I really don't think Ivy League professors are a monolith.

Thank you @IzzyBlanche ….. and IMO one also needs to ask where does personal responsibility and accountability come into play. IIUC this alleged murderer is ~26 years old.

IMO I do find the supposed comments (since deleted it seems) of that professor to be reprehensible. MOO