NY - UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson fatally shot in Midtown NYC, 4 Dec 2024 #12 *Arrest*

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is it common for a statement like this to be issued by the attorney general?
 
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is it common for a statement like this to be issued by the attorney general?
Since the former administration pardoned a number of federal death row inmates, it's good to know where our new attorney general stands on this case. It will also help the federal prosecutors prepare, as well as the defense.
 
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Since the former administration pardoned a number of federal death row inmates, it's good to know where our new attorney general stands on this case. It will also help the federal prosecutors prepare, as well as the defense.
yes, i suppose at least it’s good for everyone involved to be able to prepare. i remember now that biden changed those death penalties into LWOP, and trump signed orders on his first day or so to seek DP in federal cases and to make it easier for states to get lethal drugs.



Is anything “common” in this administration?

In my opinion, it’s very weird for her to direct the DP in the SDNY’s case. But I’m sure she has some political agenda for doing so.

i feel the same way! i wasn’t sure if (as someone from a country that doesn’t have death penalty) this has always been the norm, or if it’s a new approach from this government. seems like it is!
 
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yes, i suppose at least it’s good for everyone involved to be able to prepare. i remember now that biden changed those death penalties into LWOP, and trump signed orders on his first day or so to seek DP in federal cases and to make it easier for states to get lethal drugs.





i feel the same way! i wasn’t sure if (as someone from a country that doesn’t have death penalty) this has always been the norm, or if it’s a new approach from this government. seems like it is!
Different administrations have different policies. Good to know where our current U.S. Attorney General stands and to be transparent about it.
 
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@Uebey


From Luigi's lawyer on the death penalty:"By doing this, [prosecutors] are defending the broken, immoral, and murderous healthcare industry that continues to terrorize the American people."


here’s the complete statement from
KFA

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i do think DP is taking it too far, and i wonder if it won’t cause backlash for prosecution. jmo.
 
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Just an update on United Health Care from Minnesota. Two days after the shooting UHC erected a temporary fence around the previously open facility. It is now permanent with a guard. AND, UHC is paying the City of Minnetonka (where UHC is located) to patrol their facility. Seems UHC isn't feeling very secure.
I'm sure they're fearful of LM copycats. That can happen when someone Martyr's themselves in the name of opposition of Capitalism for the little guy.

LM was not insured by United HealthCare. He chose them, and by default, Brian Thompson, because they are one of the largest, most profitable, and recognizable names. Brian Thompson didn't sit atop an evil insurance kingdom and personally deny claims. He had bosses who also answered to higher ups and BOD members. It's an entire organization that he was certainly not the bottom line of, in an industry with unparalleled moving parts and people.

Yes, HC as a whole desperately needs change. I'm from the medical background myself, and it's been a hot topic of mine for years. What I can tell you is that LM targeting, stalking and killing the CEO of one organization has done nothing to change the overall climate for the better.

If anything, there are now added costs like the ones you stated that will be somehow passed along to consumers.

Murder is NOT the solution to the big picture HealthCare problem (or any). LM is not the Judge, Jury and Executioner. He appointed himself as one, so he shouldn't be surprised if that same reasoning could be applied to his actions.

JMO
 
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here’s the complete statement from
KFA

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i do think DP is taking it too far, and i wonder if it won’t cause backlash for prosecution. jmo.

I don't think the DP is out of line. This sort of case would be exactly what I would expect to see prosecuted as a DP case. LM planned the murder, laid in wait to commit it, executed it, and all of his actions leading up to and after the murder indicate that murder/execution was his intent. His apparent motive was not personal or extreme emotional upset, or oopsy I committed manslaughter because I didn't mean to kill him.

Further I think it is disingenuous for defense attorney KF-A to suggest that the prosecution's reason for seeking the DP is political all while denying her client's apparent reasoning for killing Brian Thompson was to commit a terroristic act. It's like she wants it both ways. He wasn't committing an act of terror or a political act with the murder, but seeking DP is a political act? No lady, make it make sense. 🤪

ETA I think he'd be much better off going with the psych defense route, insanity or something, because I do think he is unbalanced/mentally ill.
 
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Luigi's defense attorney got a crappy case, but she has to give the best arguments that she can. IMO the jury will convict him no matter what she says and he will, in fact, get the death penalty. How long before he gets executed is anyone's guess. He should never be set free because he is a danger to everyone in society. These type of people cannot be rehabilitated, so just go ahead and remove him from the planet please. He can try again in his next life.
 
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Luigi's Atty.

“By seeking to murder Luigi Mangione, the Justice Department has moved from the dysfunctional to the barbaric. Their decision to execute Luigi is political...."

Ms Friedman Agnifilo's stmt seems, imo, to be trying to give the impression that
Justice Dept. will not even present witnesses & evidence at a TRIAL.



 
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Whilst public is supposed to believe the motive is “to stop evil corporate insurance” … another motive could similar to Mark David Chapman, to gain “glory” of be famous.

Possibly LM view was that celebs & politicians are too difficult to get close to, and he was seeking to find an easier target … a corporate target. Would not be surprised if he considered Big Pharma, Inv Bank, fossil fuels - but these tend to urban HQ & defo have security and exec driven straight into underground garages. Possibly this “rural”insurance company exec seemed to LM to be an easy target.

Wonder if motive was less about “insurance” and more about easiest exec to kill for … fame. He would get support from certain segments of society if he was rallying against “big pharma” Or “evil investment banks” or “fossil fuels / global warming” or even “student loans”!!

There seems to be no personal link to victim or industry …. IMO Brian Thompson may just have been an achievable target. (Fueled by disordered thinking)
 
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IMHO In this particular case DP is more about protecting our corporate elite than actually punishment. It's like sending a message to Americans: stay away from rising up against CEO class.
 
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This almost sounds like his attorneys have conceded his guilt...
It does seem like they're going for the justified homicide angle which would be disgusting, as if Brian Thompson was this evil person who was responsible for many deaths and LM was doing some kind of societal good by taking out the trash.

If that's the case, it's hogwash because a.) murder is inexcusable and b.) denying claims is part of the insurance industry in general. If a policyholder feels like the insurance company isn't playing right, he can talk to an attorney. Brian Thompson was just doing his job in an imperfect system.
 
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Luigi's Atty.

“By seeking to murder Luigi Mangione, the Justice Department has moved from the dysfunctional to the barbaric. Their decision to execute Luigi is political...."

Ms Friedman Agnifilo's stmt seems, imo, to be trying to give the impression that
Justice Dept. will not even present witnesses & evidence at a TRIAL.



What about Luigi's decision to execute a 'figure head' of HealthCare in a cold and barbaric way? His own family's generational wealth was acquired by a form of healthcare services, which provided Luigi the very means and opportunities of an overprivileged lifestyle.

If he was truly raging against Capitalism, how is it that he supported and enjoyed the services and goods of some of the most Capital consumerism out there? High dollar education, travel, clothing, backpacks, food services, etc?

LM was not disabled by health issues from denied claims, he was able to move from SF, travel to Hawaii and beyond, hang out surfing, hiking, etc. proudly showing off his well chiseled sick pack abs in his many shirtless SM posts. You don't get or maintain that physique without working out extensively.

IMO, Luigi capitalized on one of the biggest hot topic buttons for fame and notoriety. He had the resources to organize a legal protest/demonstration of our HC system in general. Instead he chose the execution of an innocent 'spoke in the wheel 'of an enormous broken system and the suggestion of a Bill in his name is insulting and disturbing. We don't glorify and honor cold blooded murderers by passing legislation in their name.

JMO
 

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