PLEA DEAL REACHED - 4 Univ of Idaho Students Murdered, Bryan Kohberger Arrested, Moscow, Nov 2022 #110

[MassGuy]

If she could stomach talking to him --- maybe KR could try to get him to divulge some things ?
Just thinking out loud.

You can tell she’s dying to talk to him. I am convinced he will agree to it at some point.

 

[Diddian]

On the Law and Crime You Tube live broadcast, I can hear the host, but not the guests (I just hear what sounds like car and crowd noise outside the courthouse). Others experiencing this?

 

[CHEL]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1940438197710016984

https://twitter.com/x/status/1940438580578717930

 

[girlhasnoname]

It isn’t the entire page, it is a paragraph…

Chapter 20
It is a description of the training for Handmaids, first a jump back in time to what kinds of movies students in high school may watch in geography class. Then a jump back to the present- a group together with Aunt Helen and Aunt Lydia.

“Aunt Lydia did not show these kinds of movies.
Sometimes the movie she showed would be an old Corn film from the seventies or eighties. Women kneeling, sucking Pickles, or guns, women tied up or chained or with dog collars around their necks, women hanging from trees, or upside-down, naked, with their legs held apart, women being Rapped, beaten up, killed. Once we had to watch a woman being slowly cut to pieces, her fingers and breasts snipped off with garden shears, her stomach slit open and her intestines pulled out.”
Margaret Atwood- The Handmaid’s Tale p. 118

It is followed by a declaration as to how horrible the past was and how much better the the current state of society is- with women as Handmaids. And because the former things were done by those who were ‘Godless’.

Yeah, tough stuff. The obvious capitals and misspellings are my attempt to make the disgusting more easily swallowed. Yuk
If BK thought this paragraph was inspirational- he clearly missed the point of Atwood’s dystopian novel, to learn from societies that have gone off track so our society can Wake Up to injustices before they run amuck.

I find the odds of BK attending the Atwood lecture, and the descriptions on page 118 of this book, and the mention of a book with underlining on p 118 noted as part of evidence, given his crimes - well beyond mere coincidence.

IMO

Yes, there was a photo posted early on of BK in the front row sitting manspread out at the Margaret Atwood Lecture with that awkward, trying too hard, smirk on his face. Gag.



Kohberger, now 28, is spotted front and center at the 2018 event at Northampton Community College.Northampton Community College

Idaho murder suspect Bryan Kohberger spotted at feminist author Margaret Atwood’s 2018 lecture

Kohberger, now 28, is spotted front and center at the 2018 event at Northampton Community College.

nypost.com

 

[AngTxGal]

On the Law and Crime You Tube live broadcast, I can hear the host, but not the guests (I just hear what sounds like car and crowd noise outside the courthouse). Others experiencing this?

Emily D Baker on YouTube

 

[BUF]

I would hope he shows up in his jail attire today….not his suit

 

[PunishThenForgive]

As a dear, departed journalist friend used to write--Some things I think I think:

1. Bryan Kohberger is a mentally and emotionally disordered person. If he has talked to LE about what he did and why, any part of it that isn't verifiable by evidence (e.g., the timing based on the Elantra on video) is likely to be a lie. I'll believe it when he says "guilty" to all charges but only because it's in his best interest.
2. Bryan Kohberger is a mentally and emotionally disordered person, part 2. When we talk about "motive" or his "target(s)," we are fooling ourselves into thinking we can understand someone who does terrible things because they gives him a depraved sense of pleasure.
3. A trial was important to me because I've thought all along that a guy who left behind the knife sheath with DNA on it had to have brought some kind of trace evidence home with him. And reading Appelman's book reinforced that thought. Why did he need to throw away the shower curtain? Blood? Dog hair? Fibers? And did he crave a trophy or two?
4. I don't care one bit if BK thinks LWOP is a picnic in the park or a night at the county fair. Bryan Kohberger is a mentally and emotionally disordered person (part 3). He is not a normal person. What matters is that he will never be able to kill in the outside world again.
5. His parents of course need to be in court. Aside from the actual sentencing, this is the last time they will see their son outside of prison. Because he is a mentally and emotionally disordered person (part 4) and they had been through issues like his drug addiction and other behavioral problems, they had a brief moment where they though he was going to get a PhD and live a normal life. He crushed the rest of their lives. They're victims, too.
6. It's understandable that some of the parents have been angry and hostile to law enforcement from the moment the murders were discovered. From the perspective of an outsider (not a relative, not from Idaho, not from the university), this case was solved quickly and handled professionally in terms of moving through the legal system. They got to LWOP and no appeals without a trial. He can posture like the depraved misfit he is in prison, like Watts and Manson and local W PA legend Stanley Hoss, who killed a guard when he was in prison. He can pretend to find Jesus or be a criminology expert. He'll be locked up with other depraved misfits.
7. There is nothing that will convince probergers that BK is guilty. See also the people who think the moon landing was staged. And (again, local to my area), the Biddle brothers, who were part of a robbery gang, escaped from prison because the warden's wife fell in love with one of them. They were shot and killed about an hour north of Pittsburgh. They were celebrities, with people believing them innocent and women lining up to see the bodies. It was "the crime of the century" in 1901. So this proberger stuff is just the internet version of an old phenomenon.

Just my thoughts on BK. Your thoughts may vary!

MOO

Thanks for reminding us about the celebrity killers of the past. Bonnie and Clyde were two others, though few, if any, thought they were innocent. Instead, they were romanticized as modern day (at that time) Robin Hoods, much like Luigi Mangione in our own time.

As I’ve stated in previous posts, I monitor the Comments section of some conspiracy theory YouTube Channels (I don’t watch the content), and some Probergers do peel off with each round of new evidence. Of course, when they express doubt, they get significant push-back from the vast majority, who are still true believers.

The best antidote to the madness will be for the Probergers to stop watching such content and schmoozing in the comments section. Hopefully this will occur as the content creators pivot to the next poor, maligned man accused of a heinous crime (it’s usually a man—and they inevitably blame a woman instead).

IMO

 

[Derph]

On the Law and Crime You Tube live broadcast, I can hear the host, but not the guests (I just hear what sounds like car and crowd noise outside the courthouse). Others experiencing this?

Same here, it's not just you.

 

[MassGuy]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1940444899641532610

 

[wendy44]

I read KR's book on BTK and didn't really care for it. It felt like he was playing her the whole time and she made it a lot about herself. I'd still read her book on BK though.
JMO

 

[Chimera]

I would hope he shows up in his jail attire today….not his suit

ITA !

 

[SteveP]

Emily D Baker on YouTube

NewsNation Network on tv is going to show it live as well.

 

[Sillybilly]

East Idaho News

LIVE | Bryan Kohberger change of plea court hearing​

Law & Crime

LIVE: Bryan Kohberger Guilty Plea Hearing — ID v. Bryan Kohberger​

 

[Megnut]

I would hope he shows up in his jail attire today….not his suit

In a tall chair.

 

[PunishThenForgive]

MOO He will admit to gain better circumstances.
It is not technically an Alford plea, where the accused just agrees that they will probably be found guilty.
But I think he thinks he thinks he probably be found guilty and he that he better plead guilty to avoid the fate of existence on Death row of 23 hours in cell and 1 hour recreation.

I agree, but I hope he thinks he’ll be found guilty because he damn well knows he did it.

Anyway, this is why Hippler needs to get him to admit to committing each crime in open court, IMO.

 

[Twistinginthewind]

I was talking to a friend this morning, and she asked an interesting question. Do you think there is a chance that BK may be allowed to serve his sentence in a Pennsylvania prison, rather than Idaho, so that his family may be able to visit him more often? IMO, he doesn't deserve to be moved for his own preference, but I guess I would not be opposed to it, for them. They are suffering parents too. JMO

I would think the presumption is the State of Idaho gets dibs on him 100%, and will be keeping him there since the crimes they're prosecuting BK for were committed there.

They might even have to incarcerate him there on a legal basis since that is where he will be convicted, but IANAL and everything is subject to caveat I suppose based on unique circumstances and all.

I've never heard of such a thing, myself, a convict serving a life sentence in a "home state" prison system as a preference, but it's a good question.

Not sure what it would entail in terms of striking an agreement and with whom, or if it's ever been done before at least between PA and ID.

Sadly I posit seeing Idahoans at all levels (from surviving victims and families up the Governor and Senators) objecting to him ever leaving their prison system to make things easier for him or his family.

JMO

 

[girlhasnoname]

TrueCrime just reported SG and his family arrived at Court and went in. A few minutes later he (SG) came out and told Angenette Leavy that he was livid, he was not going to participate in the 'zoo' and left.
WTAH???

 

[StarryStarryNight]

The elimination of appeals a big win IMO. Trials are always risky no matter how slam dunky they look.

He thinks he will be found guilty and the difference in prison living conditions between LWOP and DR is extreme. So in a sense it's an Alford guilty plea even if not expressly called one.

I disagree that it’s the equivalent of an Alford Plea.
He’s pleading guilty because he’s guilty and it was apparent that he had no defense.

 

[MassGuy]

Kind of crazy. Many of us have been following this since day one, and we're about a half hour away from seeing this come to a conclusion.

 

[Miss Poovy]

I think the request could be made by his parents. He has no other family in the Idaho area.
As a family of a victim I would be furious to concede on such a thing.
Maybe in time the anger will subside and he could be moved?

IMO

I’m curious if a transfer is allowed for a state prosecuted crime & thus sentenced to a state prison? I know if a person is in a federal prison a request may be made for transfer. It doesn’t necessarily mean it will be approved.