UK - Sara Sharif, 10, found murdered in house, Surrey, Aug 2023 *POIs ARREST* #3

[JennieM]

Girl suffered fractures before death, court hears​

Warning: This article features details that some people might find distressing

Sara Sharif: Girl, 10, suffered fractures before death, court hears

A fracture to Sara Sharif’s neck bone could have been caused by strangulation, the Old Bailey hears.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Harriet]

Regarding the out house. I believe their house is identical to one I lived in for ten years. There is a back door out of the kitchen leading to a back porch with a concrete floor.
There is an outside style toilet to the left. Then there is a main back door. Going out of the back door there is another door to the right of the back door as you look at it.
This is a brick built store. It was built as a coal store. Mine had a little half door that you pulled up that led to the back porch of the house.
Perfectly possible for a child to be pushed through. The boiler was housed there as there was no gas inside the house. They are unheated and I dread to think that they might have kept Sara there.
These houses are council houses/social housing and they are non traditional build. That are steel structure.
I’m not sure if this information is relevant or useful, but thought I would share.

Moo but being put down is too good for this scum. Sweet Sara.

 

[Skigh]

Regarding the out house. I believe their house is identical to one I lived in for ten years. There is a back door out of the kitchen leading to a back porch with a concrete floor.
There is an outside style toilet to the left. Then there is a main back door. Going out of the back door there is another door to the right of the back door as you look at it.
This is a brick built store. It was built as a coal store. Mine had a little half door that you pulled up that led to the back porch of the house.
Perfectly possible for a child to be pushed through. The boiler was housed there as there was no gas inside the house. They are unheated and I dread to think that they might have kept Sara there.
These houses are council houses/social housing and they are non traditional build. That are steel structure.
I’m not sure if this information is relevant or useful, but thought I would share.

Moo but being put down is too good for this scum. Sweet Sara.

I do not think these houses are non traditional build or would have had an outside toilet or no gas to the house. I do think the brick building could have been for a coal .

 

[seasideForest]

In older houses, it used to house the lavatory and/or coal. Quite the torture chamber. Thinking the outhouse because it doesn't abut to another property. Usually they're single skinned though, so noise may travel, but IMO, not as much as in a semi-detached house. I would be interested in what those neighbours had to say.

BBM - Good thinking. Less noise travel than thru the wall to the other semi-detached house (left side in photo) and no outhouse or shed directly beside the neighbour on the right in photo.

Yeah, the coalhouse. Cold, hard, dark, long-and-narrow, isolated. Scary enough for a child w/o the physical abuse.

I hope more will come out about what the neighbours heard or saw, enough to help a conviction anyway.

i think in this case, timing was everything and taken full advantage of, especially if neighbours either side worked during the day.

Probably. This case is sickening.
Not that I suppose anybody in their right mind believes that any of this abuse happened by accident on the spur of the moment due to parental 'end of tether' but the more planning went into it, e.g. taking full advantage of timing, the more it shows how evil that trio is. All of them. JMO

 

[Sooty]

They conveniently removed the ring doorbell to prevent any footage being viewed of their comings and goings, so they had the presence of mind to know they would be investigated by the police.
So why on earth did this not cross their mind in the preceding months, and how did the threat of prison not prevent them from escalating the violence?

I wonder what their reaction has been in court listening to the horrific details being revealed about the abuse that Sara suffered. I’d love to know if there was any remorse, any tears, or whether they are just devoid of emotion

I am just popping my thoughts down - it may be that I have missed some information as I read through thread 1 & 2 very quickly.

What did the ring doorbell capture before it was removed, I wonder - there must have been something very incriminating, after all they left their weapons barely concealed when they abandoned the family home.

I also wonder about why was it bought in the first place? I know they are commonly found, but there was likely someone at home most of the time with the young children (the step mum) - perhaps there was a fear of SS?

Also, has any evidence been presented of the uncle ( the fathers brother?) DNA on incriminating materials? Perhaps it is too early in the case yet… the dynamic between the three, once revealed, will be interesting. He was working according to todays reports and I thought I had read he was a student also. He was perhaps not often in the house (was there any spare room for him to have space to study?) and I have a feeling this will be his defence. Still, he ran away to P with the others which implies his guilt.

Did the 13 year old brother attend school? Did the twin sisters attend the same school as Sara did? I guess reporting of their profiles will be heavily restricted.

Just my musings, trying to make some of the pieces fit together ( a bit prematurely I’m sure)

 

[Skigh]

I am just popping my thoughts down - it may be that I have missed some information as I read through thread 1 & 2 very quickly.

What did the ring doorbell capture before it was removed, I wonder - there must have been something very incriminating, after all they left their weapons barely concealed when they abandoned the family home.

I also wonder about why was it bought in the first place? I know they are commonly found, but there was likely someone at home most of the time with the young children (the step mum) - perhaps there was a fear of SS?

Also, has any evidence been presented of the uncle ( the fathers brother?) DNA on incriminating materials? Perhaps it is too early in the case yet… the dynamic between the three, once revealed, will be interesting. He was working according to todays reports and I thought I had read he was a student also. He was perhaps not often in the house (was there any spare room for him to have space to study?) and I have a feeling this will be his defence. Still, he ran away to P with the others which implies his guilt.

Did the 13 year old brother attend school? Did the twin sisters attend the same school as Sara did? I guess reporting of their profiles will be heavily restricted.

Just my musings, trying to make some of the pieces fit together ( a bit prematurely I’m sure)

It is now very usual for people to have door cameras. It might have been originally installed as he parked his taxi on the drive.
I think the uncle was here on a student visa ,whether he actually was studying I do not know.
The 13 year old was at school . The twins were at the same school as Sara as there are photos of them wearing the same uniform. The twins ,to the best of my knowledge ,changed schools when they moved from Byfleet to Horsell and Sara did not go to a new school.

 

[seasideForest]

Did the 13 year old brother attend school? Did the twin sisters attend the same school as Sara did? I guess reporting of their profiles will be heavily restricted.

Since it was reported that Sara was removed from school, sometime during 2023, and not that all or some of the children were removed, I'm presuming it was just Sara removed.

The primary school - St Mary's Church of England primary school in Byfleet - is mentioned here: Sara Sharif was bubbly and confident, says school There's no reason for me to suspect that the younger sisters wouldn't have been enrolled there.

The 13yo brother should have been at the high school for at least a year by then. MOO

Also, has any evidence been presented of the uncle ( the fathers brother?) DNA on incriminating materials?

There was a mention, yes, on one of the objects used to beat Sara. I can't remember on which object. It's mentioned here on WS on one of the threads. MOO

 

[seasideForest]

The twins ,to the best of my knowledge ,changed schools when they moved from Byfleet to Horsell and Sara did not go to a new school

That makes sense, since it's the primary school in Byfleet I quoted in my post above.
Also 'tactically' easier for the parents to just not enroll Sara in the new school than remove her once enrolled. MOO

 

[Dotta]

There was a mention, yes, on one of the objects used to beat Sara. I can't remember on which object. It's mentioned here on WS on one of the threads. MOO

A Belt.

As far as I remember.

ETA

Got it!

"In a wendy house in the garden, the police also discovered
a belt,
which bore Sara's DNA
as well as that of her father Sharif
and her uncle Faisal Malik,
jurors heard."

Sara Sharif 'had a plastic home-made hood taped over her head'

Urfan Sharif is accused of battering his 10-year-old daughter Sara to death before fleeing to Pakistan last August after subjecting the schoolgirl to weeks of brutal abuse.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[GoBuckeyes]

From the article linked above:
The court previously heard that Sara had suffered puncture wounds, burns, bruising and abrasions, and a post-mortem examination found Sara had "probable human bite marks", an iron burn and scalding from hot water.

Prosecutor Bill Emlyn Jones KC previously said a bloodstained cricket bat, a rolling pin with Sara’s DNA on it, a metal pole, a belt and rope were found near the family’s outhouse.

Now we find out that she had 29 broken bones. Of those broken bones, at least one was in her neck and 3 in her hand/finger. These 3 people are monsters, and it makes me grateful that my state still has the death penalty. Regardless, even that punishment wouldn't be justice.

Then they packed up her uncle and 5 sibs and fled to Islamabad, out of the reach of anyone who could intervene on behalf of the 5 living minors. Evil monsters and cowards all 3!

Has it been mentioned where the mother is? TIA

 

[su5ie]

Is it stated when the uncle arrived in UK. I'm wondering did Sara's abuse coincide with his arrival.
In Pakistan culture would it be a thing that nieces marry uncles . Just curious
I feel Sara's torture and abuse began as a way to make her comply with something more than a way to enforce discipline. The plastic hooding ,the binding of the ankles ,the burning with an iron seems more like methods used by mafia type torture to break a victim into either submission or to gain some information. The violence used is more than using someone as a punching bag to vent rage .
I know there is no Why and definitely no justification in any stretch of the imagination and the three are psychopaths imo .I'm just really finding it hard to comprehend that such violent extremities happen in order to discipline and I'm not justifying it as such No child under that distress would be rebelling after the first or second beating of the types we are reading about .
Some of the weapons used do seem like the choice men would use .while I believe beamish is equally guilty I feel the father used the weapons .

I'm still unsure of the role the uncle played in the violence but he definitely witness the results if not the actual acts .

I would say the results of starvation found in the bone marrow was because after the hyoid bone was broken coupled with other injuries to Sara's abdomen it was difficult for sara to eat and prehaps hadn't eaten in weeks .
The whole case makes me sick . From the violence inflicted to people turning a blind eye .
If Sara was removed from school to be homeschooled and other kids weren't surely that was the biggest red flag and the school should be ashamed of themselves as in my mind they are enablers

 

[Skigh]

From the article linked above:
The court previously heard that Sara had suffered puncture wounds, burns, bruising and abrasions, and a post-mortem examination found Sara had "probable human bite marks", an iron burn and scalding from hot water.

Prosecutor Bill Emlyn Jones KC previously said a bloodstained cricket bat, a rolling pin with Sara’s DNA on it, a metal pole, a belt and rope were found near the family’s outhouse.

Now we find out that she had 29 broken bones. Of those broken bones, at least one was in her neck and 3 in her hand/finger. These 3 people are monsters, and it makes me grateful that my state still has the death penalty. Regardless, even that punishment wouldn't be justice.

Then they packed up her uncle and 5 sibs and fled to Islamabad, out of the reach of anyone who could intervene on behalf of the 5 living minors. Evil monsters and cowards all 3!

Has it been mentioned where the mother is? TIA

Her mother is Polish and moved from England back to Poland after Sara was murdered.

 

[porkypies]

...The 13 year old was at school . The twins were at the same school as Sara as there are photos of them wearing the same uniform. The twins ,to the best of my knowledge ,changed schools when they moved from Byfleet to Horsell and Sara did not go to a new school.

As reported in much earlier posts and elsewhere, Sara was withdrawn unexpectedly from her primary school in Byfleet at the end of March 2023 - three weeks after teacher(s) started to ask about visible her visible bruises, for the second time.

 

[porkypies]

I would say the results of starvation found in the bone marrow was because after the hyoid bone was broken coupled with other injuries to Sara's abdomen it was difficult for sara to eat and prehaps hadn't eaten in weeks .
The whole case makes me sick . From the violence inflicted to people turning a blind eye .
If Sara was removed from school to be homeschooled and other kids weren't surely that was the biggest red flag and the school should be ashamed of themselves as in my mind they are enablers

Yes, it seems that this neck injury causes trouble and pain in swallowing.
But also, in Dotta's post 89 above, there is a link to a Daily Mail article.
The article reports that Beinash wrote to her own sister in February 2022 that "Sara has anxiety whatever she eats she vomits out"
Which matches the autopsy description of the bone-marrow condition as possibly being caused by "rapid starvation" and/or "rapid removal of all food"
I don't think I will ever forget that "Sara has anxiety"

 

[PoirotPink]

Is it stated when the uncle arrived in UK. I'm wondering did Sara's abuse coincide with his arrival.
In Pakistan culture would it be a thing that nieces marry uncles . Just curious
I feel Sara's torture and abuse began as a way to make her comply with something more than a way to enforce discipline. The plastic hooding ,the binding of the ankles ,the burning with an iron seems more like methods used by mafia type torture to break a victim into either submission or to gain some information. The violence used is more than using someone as a punching bag to vent rage .
I know there is no Why and definitely no justification in any stretch of the imagination and the three are psychopaths imo .I'm just really finding it hard to comprehend that such violent extremities happen in order to discipline and I'm not justifying it as such No child under that distress would be rebelling after the first or second beating of the types we are reading about .
Some of the weapons used do seem like the choice men would use .while I believe beamish is equally guilty I feel the father used the weapons .

I'm still unsure of the role the uncle played in the violence but he definitely witness the results if not the actual acts .

I would say the results of starvation found in the bone marrow was because after the hyoid bone was broken coupled with other injuries to Sara's abdomen it was difficult for sara to eat and prehaps hadn't eaten in weeks .
The whole case makes me sick . From the violence inflicted to people turning a blind eye .
If Sara was removed from school to be homeschooled and other kids weren't surely that was the biggest red flag and the school should be ashamed of themselves as in my mind they are enablers

No, I don't believe there's a culture of uncles marrying nieces, and besides that she was only 10 years old! I've skimmed this thread and noticed a few "othering" comments, with some people attributing aspects of this crime to (misunderstood) "culture differences". There's no culture where torturing a child is considered, in any way, okay. And as for child marriage, the current minimum legal age of marriage in Pakistan is 18, and child marriage (below the age of 15) has been prohibited since 1929!

IMO, I don't believe Sara's punishments began as discipline. Everything I've seen suggests to me that Sara was a compliant, good child, who did what she was told. She was seen by neighbours doing chores. She didn't alert her mother to how she was being treated on the occasion when her mother reported that she seemed "changed". She made excuses for her injuries and tried to conceal them from her teachers. She did what she was told.

I think we are dealing with a sadist and I believe Beinash was the main culprit. Beinash would have been in High School at the time of Baby P. News stories like that tend to be much discussed with friends and classmates at school, so she must certainly have been aware of it and the case may have left an impression on her. As mentioned in the previous paragraph, I struggle to believe the "discipline" angle, which leads me to question Beinash's narrative of the father being a harsh disciplinarian, alongside the fact that his "confession" does not match the injuries that Sara was found to have sustained. If he'd known the full extent of the injuries, why would he preface his confession with "legally punished"? It would have been blindingly obvious that a burn from an iron and bitemarks etc. would not fit this definition. However, if the father was unaware of the full extent of the injuries, it would tally with him making a false confession at the behest of Beinash.

We know screams were heard from the property when only Beinash was at home with the children. And Sara would have spent most, if not all, of the day with Beinash when she was being "homeschooled" and the two men were out at work. The father and uncle volunteered their dental impressions, whilst Beinash refused. Beinash is the one who was ordering sellotape online. It's faster and cheaper to just buy sellotape in a shop, and I can't help thinking that the father would have chosen to purchase such an item from a physical store whilst he was out and about (driving his taxi). So how involved was he in the day-to-day of what was going on? I also get an impression, from the texts to her sister, that Beinash can be quite devious and manipulative. I mentioned in an earlier post that I suspected one of her texts (about Sara vomitting) was an attempt to cover up deliberate starvation.

So, I think we have one sadistic psychopath (Beinash), a negligent father who failed to protect his daughter (and was subsequently framed and manipulated into confessing by the one person who knew precisely how bad the injuries were) and an uncle (who had less power to intervene than the father and was not even declared as living at the address, IIRC, which may have created additional conflicting issues for him). IMO, I suspect there are likely to be varying degrees of culpability. I cannot believe that all three adults were sadistic. In similar cases, it's usually one perp and others who fail to take action against the perp.

JMO.

 

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[GoBuckeyes]

Is it stated when the uncle arrived in UK. I'm wondering did Sara's abuse coincide with his arrival.
In Pakistan culture would it be a thing that nieces marry uncles . Just curious
I feel Sara's torture and abuse began as a way to make her comply with something more than a way to enforce discipline. The plastic hooding ,the binding of the ankles ,the burning with an iron seems more like methods used by mafia type torture to break a victim into either submission or to gain some information. The violence used is more than using someone as a punching bag to vent rage .
I know there is no Why and definitely no justification in any stretch of the imagination and the three are psychopaths imo .I'm just really finding it hard to comprehend that such violent extremities happen in order to discipline and I'm not justifying it as such No child under that distress would be rebelling after the first or second beating of the types we are reading about .
Some of the weapons used do seem like the choice men would use .while I believe beamish is equally guilty I feel the father used the weapons .

I'm still unsure of the role the uncle played in the violence but he definitely witness the results if not the actual acts .

I would say the results of starvation found in the bone marrow was because after the hyoid bone was broken coupled with other injuries to Sara's abdomen it was difficult for sara to eat and prehaps hadn't eaten in weeks .
The whole case makes me sick . From the violence inflicted to people turning a blind eye .
If Sara was removed from school to be homeschooled and other kids weren't surely that was the biggest red flag and the school should be ashamed of themselves as in my mind they are enablers

If I may, ask something tangentially related to your leading question. In general, not this specific uncle, in Pakistan, what is the penalty to the male for an adult uncle having sex (statutory or forcible rape) of a minor niece? TIA

 

[Pinkestpanther]

I have a strong gut feeling that Beinash is at the root of this. I believe she was extremely jealous of and had an extreme dislike of Sara. Sara was a beautiful child. Beinash looks cruel to me. I think she is a jealous, vicious, sadistic being and won't be surprised to hear that the worst treatment was metered out by her. Burning with an iron and the biting..her I believe. Doesn't mean the other 2 were not involved and are just as guilty, even if they only knew of the abuse but did nothing to stop it. If they blame each other then all 3 should be found guilty. All MOO.

 

[su5ie]

No, I don't believe there's a culture of uncles marrying nieces, and besides that she was only 10 years old! I've skimmed this thread and noticed a few "othering" comments, with some people attributing aspects of this crime to (misunderstood) "culture differences". There's no culture where torturing a child is considered, in any way, okay. And as for child marriage, the current minimum legal age of marriage in Pakistan is 18, and child marriage (below the age of 15) has been prohibited since 1929!

IMO, I don't believe Sara's punishments began as discipline. Everything I've seen suggests to me that Sara was a compliant, good child, who did what she was told. She was seen by neighbours doing chores. She didn't alert her mother to how she was being treated on the occasion when her mother reported that she seemed "changed". She made excuses for her injuries and tried to conceal them from her teachers. She did what she was told.

I think we are dealing with a sadist and I believe Beinash was the main culprit. Beinash would have been in High School at the time of Baby P. News stories like that tend to be much discussed with friends and classmates at school, so she must certainly have been aware of it and the case may have left an impression on her. As mentioned in the previous paragraph, I struggle to believe the "discipline" angle, which leads me to question Beinash's narrative of the father being a harsh disciplinarian, alongside the fact that his "confession" does not match the injuries that Sara was found to have sustained. If he'd known the full extent of the injuries, why would he preface his confession with "legally punished"? It would have been blindingly obvious that a burn from an iron and bitemarks etc. would not fit this definition. However, if the father was unaware of the full extent of the injuries, it would tally with him making a false confession at the behest of Beinash.

We know screams were heard from the property when only Beinash was at home with the children. And Sara would have spent most, if not all, of the day with Beinash when she was being "homeschooled" and the two men were out at work. The father and uncle volunteered their dental impressions, whilst Beinash refused. Beinash is the one who was ordering sellotape online. It's faster and cheaper to just buy sellotape in a shop, and I can't help thinking that the father would have chosen to purchase such an item from a physical store whilst he was out and about (driving his taxi). So how involved was he in the day-to-day of what was going on? I also get an impression, from the texts to her sister, that Beinash can be quite devious and manipulative. I mentioned in an earlier post that I suspected one of her texts (about Sara vomitting) was an attempt to cover up deliberate starvation.

So, I think we have one sadistic psychopath (Beinash), a negligent father who failed to protect his daughter (and was subsequently framed and manipulated into confessing by the one person who knew precisely how bad the injuries were) and an uncle (who had less power to intervene than the father and was not even declared as living at the address, IIRC, which may have created additional conflicting issues for him). IMO, I suspect there are likely to be varying degrees of culpability. I cannot believe that all three adults were sadistic. In similar cases, it's usually one perp and others who fail to take action against the perp.

JMO.

I understand how my post may have appeared as cultural appropriation. And you are right to call out "othering " where people online may be cloaking racist behavior with questions or remarks attributing blame to a culture difference.

But I want to clearly state I was being neither racist or cloaking . I was merely curious as to whether the abuse coincided with the arrival of the uncle and if it was customary in Pakistan for nieces to marry uncles . I am aware in some minority cultures it is known cousin's may marry one another including some in irish society. What I should have done was looked it up privately instead of posting my question in a public forum .
I also will say while culture differences are present in different societies I understand these do not define a certain cohort of peoples and just like violence and chaste exists in Caucasian and Christian families . There is also plenty of verified reports of Pakistan and Muslim women and girls being classed as second class citizens and Muslim people in general have a patriarchal society . I hope this clears up where I was coming from.
I also don't believe in beamish being portrayed as the evil ,vindictive step mother whose power and control extended over a meek and unawares father and uncle and some how pulling the wool over the eyes of a strict but otherwise loving father is believing in fictional story books .
It is very possible for 2 or 3 sadistic people to group together we see this in numerous cases it is not always a leader and a follower. But a coming together of like minded people.
I believe beamish and the father are equally as guilty and while beamish may have manipulated , participated and incited the torture and abuse I don't believe she could have acted alone . I believe the father doled out an equal amount of the beatings if not the majority. The uncle I believe may be guilty by not doing anything to help Sara and turning a blind eye to the happenings. I don't know what the legal term is.
While I sit and type my reply to you I'm not trying to imply any right or wrong in either of our posts .Ours are only opinions and musings and in the grand scheme of what has happened to a beautiful, innocent and intelligent little girl whose future was snuffed out in the most horrific manner . I'm sure we both have the common goal of seeing justice for Sara . She is all that matters .
Arguing the toss over who is more or less guilty is useless they all deserve punishment as each individual at any moment could have saved Sara's life so to me even if the uncle witnessed it one time or beamish doled out a severe beating multiple times and urfan beat Sara once or multiple. In my eyes they all equally contributed to her death

 

[Dotta]

What this man is capable of,
Olga had the misfortune to experience.

Both U and B deserve each other.
Both were equally involved in Sara's treatment IMO.