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    AMBER ALERT WI - Jayme Closs, 13, Barron, missing after parents found shot, 15 Oct 2018 *endangered* #31

    I’m fairly certain that things got conflated at this point. If you go back to thread 26, page 30-31 there is more discussion about it. Heck, on those pages there are a few posters now insisting that it exists telling other posters that it doesn’t. That’s how things go on here when we get to...
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    AMBER ALERT WI - Jayme Closs, 13, Barron, missing after parents found shot, 15 Oct 2018 *endangered* #31

    I think just looking for anything. Could be: - tablets/computers/phones owned by the Closses that were used for secret communication - cameras set up by the Closses - hidden cameras NOT set up by the Closses - old tablets/computers/phones that may have contained previous communications - hidden...
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    AMBER ALERT WI - Jayme Closs, 13, Barron, missing after parents found shot, 15 Oct 2018 *endangered* #31

    I found the discussion about it. On thread 27, page 23. Below is the video that was linked: Question: Do you have any gut feeling about what may have happened? Or do you really, really just not know? Steve: Got quite a few gut feelings...so...it's not just one. Suzi: No, not just one...
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    AMBER ALERT WI - Jayme Closs, 13, Barron, missing after parents found shot, 15 Oct 2018 *endangered* #31

    I looked back and didn't see any discussion of something like that. Unless it was at a much later date it's not there
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    AMBER ALERT WI - Jayme Closs, 13, Barron, missing after parents found shot, 15 Oct 2018 *endangered* #31

    If the family said they think they know who did it then that would be the headline. There's no way a news outlet is going to bury a headline like that. The whole theme of all these interviews is that they don't know. The interview is from Nov 12. If you want to go back and look at the threads...
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    AMBER ALERT WI - Jayme Closs, 13, Barron, missing after parents found shot, 15 Oct 2018 *endangered* #31

    Respectfully, I think you might be remembering it incorrectly. During the Mollie Tibbetts case I was 100% sure that a LE said something in an interview. I found the clip after like two hours of searching and it actually said the opposite of what I thought. So, I guess I just want to point out...
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    AMBER ALERT WI - Jayme Closs, 13, Barron, missing after parents found shot, 15 Oct 2018 *endangered* #31

    I don't see the school resource officer or his name listed anywhere on the call log. Can't say I saw it on there previously, but never really looked for it so I could be wrong about that. The sheriff has definitely referred to being in contact with the school resource officer during interviews.
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    AMBER ALERT WI - Jayme Closs, 13, Barron, missing after parents found shot, 15 Oct 2018 *endangered* #31

    Haha. Yea, I think I could have worded it better when I talked about the sophistication of the second phone. You put it better than I did. I find it somewhat unlikely that she would even be aware of how to get and set up a burner phone, but the kicker for me is that I find it extremely unlikely...
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    AMBER ALERT WI - Jayme Closs, 13, Barron, missing after parents found shot, 15 Oct 2018 *endangered* #31

    This was my sense of the electronic sniffing dogs too. That it was something LE did to cover their bases since they were coming up empty elsewhere, and that they weren't necessarily looking for something specific. More of a "we have access to this resource so we might as well see if it can help...
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    AMBER ALERT WI - Jayme Closs, 13, Barron, missing after parents found shot, 15 Oct 2018 *endangered* #31

    It was a motion-activated camera monitored by Wisconsin DCI. This was menyioned in the Probable Cause secton of the criminal complaint against the panty thief. I'm guessing that investigators set it to send them a notification when it was activated...
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    AMBER ALERT WI - Jayme Closs, 13, Barron, missing after parents found shot, 15 Oct 2018 *endangered* #31

    I believe most of the stuff from the DailyMail article. It really didn't include much info that hadn't already been stated in other news pieces. The only new info was the five feet in the house thing. The sheriff has said "four minutes" or talked about how the perp was in the house for a very...
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    AMBER ALERT WI - Jayme Closs, 13, Barron, missing after parents found shot, 15 Oct 2018 *endangered* #31

    I'm not really a local, but my family had a cabin in nearby Spooner until about a year ago. (Sold it to get one on a better lake in MN.) Basically the two factors are how deep your pipes are buried and whether you keep your heat on in the winter. If your pipes are far enough below ground and you...
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    AMBER ALERT WI - Jayme Closs, 13, Barron, missing after parents found shot, 15 Oct 2018 *endangered* #31

    I think some people just think it's unlikely. At least the camp that I'm in. Certainly not offended by it, and it's something that is fair to discuss. To me, the idea that a 13 year old girl from a blue collar family in a small town would be sophisticated enough to have a second cell phone is...
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    AMBER ALERT WI - Jayme Closs, 13, Barron, missing after parents found shot, 15 Oct 2018 *endangered* #30

    Her cell phone was found charging in the kitchen. That’s obviously not 100% proof that she was home. But as a general rule most teenagers are not going to be far from their phone at any time. If her phone was in the house that is a pretty good indication that she was in the house. This was...
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    AMBER ALERT WI - Jayme Closs, 13, Barron, missing after parents found shot, 15 Oct 2018 *endangered* #30

    Haha. No, not at all. He offered an opinion fairly early in the case, and I haven't heard anything else about it since then. Some may really value his opinion, while others may not. All depends on your point of view. His take was that Denise was the target. His reasoning (I'm paraphrasing...
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    AMBER ALERT WI - Jayme Closs, 13, Barron, missing after parents found shot, 15 Oct 2018 *endangered* #30

    Couple things: 1. They've never really said what exactly was heard on the 911 call. The way the sheriff talks about the 911 call it kind of sounds to me like it's possible that they couldn't make out exactly what the sounds were until they cleaned up the audio from the call. The 911 operator...
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    AMBER ALERT WI - Jayme Closs, 13, Barron, missing after parents found shot, 15 Oct 2018 *endangered* #30

    1. The 1/2 hour time gap likely doesn't exist. LE has said the shots heard by the neighbors are unsubstantiated. 2. James was dead near the front door when police arrived at the house. 3. It was the not the 911 operator who first said suicide. It was the first officer on the scene who said...
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    AMBER ALERT WI - Jayme Closs, 13, Barron, missing after parents found shot, 15 Oct 2018 *endangered* #29

    Just seems a little far-fetched to me. Hard to take anything off the table so can't rule it out. But walking that far through the woods would take a long time, especially with an extra hundred pounds
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    AMBER ALERT WI - Jayme Closs, 13, Barron, missing after parents found shot, 15 Oct 2018 *endangered* #29

    Can't get on board with anything that doesn't involve immediately getting on Hwy 8. Heading out back to the railroad tracks would take a lot of time. Driving along the tracks would mean the perp would have to drive really slow, even in a 4wd vehicle, so that would add more time too. I'm not even...
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    AMBER ALERT WI - Jayme Closs, 13, Barron, missing after parents found shot, 15 Oct 2018 *endangered* #29

    The simple explanation is that they remembered the time incorrectly. They weren't interviewed until the next day. Doesn't surprise me at all that they wouldn't remember things perfectly.

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