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  1. SumnerRain

    CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *Arrest* #11

    I agree. Not to mention, why would she flip out? She told the hairdresser they were separating, he told her they were separating. What is to flip out about? Sounds like she would have championed joint custody and the least amount of stress on the kids' lives. The equity on the home would afford...
  2. SumnerRain

    CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *Arrest* #11

    I have a theory her social media and online presence is being actively scrubbed. His co-workers may have been told to keep their mouths shut or face defamation charges. JMO.
  3. SumnerRain

    CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *Arrest* #10

    I wonder if when he lost 50lbs and went from an XXL to M shirt size according to SWs video, if his wedding ring no longer fit and they didn't replace/resize it?
  4. SumnerRain

    CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *Arrest* #10

    There are two different ways foreclosures are handled, judicial, where a mortgage secures a property and you have to go through the court system to foreclose, and nonjudicial secured with a deed of trust where court is not necessary. Colorado is a nonjudicial state to my knowledge. This may why...
  5. SumnerRain

    CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *Arrest* #10

    It was the interview with the Thayer family that made me more suspicious about financial issues again, where they said Chris admitted they were having financial issues and thinking of selling the house. The HOA lawsuit can be for multiple reasons other than being in default. 'He fooled us:'...
  6. SumnerRain

    CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *Arrest* #10

    I wondered that too. Ashleigh Banfield said on HLN their home in NC was in Shanann's name only. "...it turns out back in 2009, this whole family picked up and packed up in a hurry. They sold a house in Belmont, North Carolina that was in Shanann`s name, and apparently took off leaving just about...
  7. SumnerRain

    CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *Arrest* #10

    I don't necessarily have an opinion or not if they are in financial crisis or not, but the mortgage company will continue to pay those bills even if you are behind. They just add it to your arrears usually. Having taxes current and insurance coverage protects the interest in their collateral...
  8. SumnerRain

    CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *Arrest* #10

    There isn't much I can add that hasn't been sleuthed, but I can add real estate related answers, as it's what my career field is in.
  9. SumnerRain

    CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *Arrest* #10

    I live in a town that the city will not pay for street lights, so HOAs are pretty much in every neighborhood. Some areas the dues cover just basic maintenance of common areas and street lights, others have clubhouses and pools their dues pay for. Some cover full yard maintenance. But yes, it is...
  10. SumnerRain

    CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *Arrest* #10

    I looked on the county site and didn't see anything out of the ordinary, and they were not listed in the list of people served with foreclosure documents on the site, but I did see the lien from the HOA for $428.90, filed 2/12/18.
  11. SumnerRain

    CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *Arrest* #10

    Not necessarily. Often the bank will pay those two things and bill the borrower, because it protects their asset. 1) if they get behind and there is a house fire their collateral is destroyed if the homeowners insurance lapses. 2) if the taxes aren't paid the county auctions off the house and...
  12. SumnerRain

    CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *Arrest* #10

    Thank you for this, this makes a lot more sense. I could not imagine who would qualify them for a 400k mortgage on a 90k combined income. This makes a lot more sense and tells me that they didn't intend to live so far beyond their means.
  13. SumnerRain

    CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *Arrest* #10

    It is a bank. They have credit cards, checking/savings and lending/mortgage services.
  14. SumnerRain

    CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *Arrest* #10

    Yes, the assessor's office usually makes that information public. Another member said they payment was made by Chase on time, and their taxes were up to date.
  15. SumnerRain

    CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *Arrest* #10

    Their monthly mortgage payment likely has an escrow account payment that pays out twice a year to the homeowners insurance and property taxes. HOA bills are usually a separate payment paid annually by the homeowner directly to the HOA management company.
  16. SumnerRain

    CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *Arrest* #10

    I wonder if NU was supposed to babysit the girls and that is how she knew SW didn't make the appointment? I never took my kids to appointments where they did ultrasounds because at this stage of pregnancy they were internal ultrasounds. The 5 week vacation isn't suspicious to me, when we lived...
  17. SumnerRain

    Found Deceased CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *Arrest* #7

    Pre-paid cell phone. Like the ones you find in walmart or convenience stores.
  18. SumnerRain

    Found Deceased CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *Arrest* #4

    Our HOA fees are pretty low, $31.25 a month, paid annually. We pay a year in advance, so in March 2018 we paid $375 to last us until March of 2019. If you are late, they add late fees, plus administration charges that are around $55 a month for our community. We had a neighbor who was a full...

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