Every time I read this I am struck by the need to specify that "Just before this room was a bathroom door on the south wall of the hallway." Why the need to specify this if it didn't matter? They didn't specify that just before the bathroom on the left there were stairs going down on the right. I'll just have to wait to find out.Could be. Except she was found inside her room per Brett Payne's statement/Exhibit A. I suppose she could have run there but with both her and E found in the room, I doubt it.
Which leads to a question... since they were found in her room, and likely were there when BK struck... why did he kill them? Planned? Hence him opening her door which would have likely been closed if she was going to go to bed after eating. Or, was it like you said? She was in the living room (so she had to have run there since she was found inside her bedroom).
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So a new shower curtain? I really hope they know when he bought it.I think you nailed this! Bam! I do think that's a shower curtain, and I think it is one that had been all folded up so that when it is unfolded you see all the little squares.
I'm pretty sure this has been addressed multiple times.We know if he does indeed have VSS he could have trouble navigating in the dark (and he damn sure can't drive). There was ambient lighting with patio bulb lights, neon sign lights, and maybe a kitchen light left on?
Throwing this out there, it said they found XKs documents in the room, so they identified it as her room. The Also in the room could mean XK was there or they could be playing word games with the documents being there and also found in the room was EC. Not tipping their hand in case there was something specific about how XK was found that only the killer could know. IMO, based on way too many cases that played word games.The way Exhibit A reads IMO... she was inside her room as it says "also in the room was a male).
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Not a popular opinion, but I believe that Xana and Ethan were killed first. BK fights with Ethan. Xana retreats to the room. Ethan barely makes it back. BK thinks he kills both of them and goes upstairs and comes back to a crying Xana. JMO
I hear you! I remember people's issues with this and I addressed this long ago but it's a bit fuzzy now. Also, right now isn't the best time for me to dig and respond (can anyone say wine with dinner? lol) Plus, it's movie time!Every time I read this I am struck by the need to specify that "Just before this room was a bathroom door on the south wall of the hallway." Why the need to specify this if it didn't matter? They didn't specify that just before the bathroom on the left there were stairs going down on the right. I'll just have to wait to find out.
I think this statement from a filling we got yesterday indicates that Ethan had not gotten out of the bed.
https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/CR01...-MiL-2-Vague-Undisclosed-Expert-Testimony.pdf
State's witness Gary Dawson: The Defendant disclosed expert opinions claiming that more than one assailant was necessary in order to accomplish the homicides in the suggested timeframe offered by the State. Dr. Dawson will opine that the victim’s intoxication levels would have impaired their ability to resist, and for certain victims (as detailed in his report) it would have prevented them from putting up any resistance.
If that statement literally means plural victims, then the ones who wouldn't have been able to resist at all would be Maddie and Ethan, since we know both Kaylee and Xana fought back.
Thank you for the offer, but I will not be off the fence until I hear it all. It's just how I am.I hear you! I remember people's issues with this and I addressed this long ago but it's a bit fuzzy now. Also, right now isn't the best time for me to dig and respond (can anyone say wine with dinner? lol) Plus, it's movie time!
What I remember saying was something along the lines of it "being poorly written" (thus confusing) but now isn't the time to make sense of that. lol Let me see what I can find tomorrow that might help you get off the fence one way or the other.![]()
Throwing this out there, it said they found XKs documents in the room, so they identified it as her room. The Also in the room could mean XK was there or they could be playing word games with the documents being there and also found in the room was EC. Not tipping their hand in case there was something specific about how XK was found that only the killer could know. IMO, based on way too many cases that played word games.
I keep forgetting about the intoxication factor, which really would have simplified this for him. I think it's important to remember too, that "defensive wounds" doesn't mean the victims were able to fight back. That's as simple as raising your hand in order to protect yourself from knife thrusts.I think this statement from a filling we got yesterday indicates that Ethan had not gotten out of the bed.
https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/CR01...-MiL-2-Vague-Undisclosed-Expert-Testimony.pdf
State's witness Gary Dawson: The Defendant disclosed expert opinions claiming that more than one assailant was necessary in order to accomplish the homicides in the suggested timeframe offered by the State. Dr. Dawson will opine that the victim’s intoxication levels would have impaired their ability to resist, and for certain victims (as detailed in his report) it would have prevented them from putting up any resistance.
If that statement literally means plural victims, then the ones who wouldn't have been able to resist at all would be Maddie and Ethan, since we know both Kaylee and Xana fought back.
It has crossed my mind he left it as a calling card. Maybe.Referencing the thumbs up photo - did he even realize he left the sheath at this point?! Seemingly would be a bit more panicked and not doing a photo shoot in his bathroom. But maybe he didn't consider DNA being on it, hm.
(I don't know about the "someone's here" statement. I thought DM had said KG said that? But many seem to assume that XK said it? My memory is more hazy on those details. Since KG's & MM's rooms looked out on the side/back yards, maybe KG saw him moving through the yard approaching the slider when she said that? And maybe she wouldn't have said it in alarm but more that someone was coming over & maybe thought he was coming to visit one of the roommates. Or perhaps she was thinking it was a DoorDash driver that got turned around & parked behind the house instead of the parking area & was walking through the yard to bring the order, not knowing who of the roommates may have ordered or who may have been expecing someone so she just made the general statement. But I don't know.)
I think she had gone back to her room. BK came in and went upstairs. After he finished, he was preparing to come down, but then Xana came out of her room to either put the bag in the kitchen trash or grab a drink. I think she got either to the door of the kitchen or all the way inside the kitchen and may have heard him make a noise at the top of the stair--or maybe he had even left the sliding glass door open a bit and she noticed it. Then Xana said either:
"There's someone here" (just speaking out loud to herself, startled)
or, my strong feeling is that she might have been saying
"Is there someone here?"
I feel like at that point she turned and was hurrying back to her room to tell Ethan.....and BK came down and caught up with her either right outside her bedroom door or right when she walked into it.
MOO i think the slider simply was not locked, it's basically the back door.Tacky to reply to myself, but I just literally had another thought about the sliding glass door.
It has been theorized from the beginning that there's a good chance that BK had popped the sliding glass door off its track to gain entry. If so, trying to put it completely back in place and close it all the way before heading upstairs would risk being even noisier. So perhaps he left it still partially off the tracks and just mostly closed. With the temps that night, it would have noticeable to Xana as she walked through the doorway and that might have been what first drew her eyes over to the door.
IMHO, etc.
But what if Xana was in the bathroom? Escaped the bedroom and tried, unsuccessfully, to shut herself in the bathroom. This might explain calling for Xana and Ethan, (maybe just as he comes up the steps and turns the corner because the first call out sounded almost jaunty, like he thought it was a joke), DM saying she is passed out, what's wrong and that she is not waking up (does she see Xana at this point? or just assume since she is not answering she is passed out?), then HJ calling for Xana (is he in the room? At the bathroom in front of the room? Maybe sees her to the side?), she's not moving but it could be dark in the bathroom and he suspects something is really wrong so goes in the room to check on Ethan and that's when we hear Get out.From the 911 call, IMHO, I think we can definitively say that Xana was NOT found in the hall. She was behind a fully or almost fully closed door--that i why we hear HJ calling out for Xana and Ethan repeatedly (I believe HJ is already on the 2nd floor when BF/DM come inside to check after the 911 operator instructs them to). We first hear HJ calling out for X and E (and maybe the sound of him knocking on the door), then 15 seconds later we hear him repeatedly call out to Xana. Then, 37 seconds later HJ starts telling the girls to "Get out, get out, get out." That's 52 seconds between when HJ starts calling out to them and when he tells the girls to get out.
Even if HJ was just entering the first floor door when we hear him calling to X& E, it wouldn't take 52 seconds for HJ to walk from the 1st floor door and into the living room where he'd be able to see down Xana's hall--maybe 10 seconds at most and that's if he walked really slow.
But 52 seconds is just enough time to look under X's door and struggle to open it if her body is behind it.
IMHO, MOO, YMMV.