4 Univ of Idaho Students Murdered, Bryan Kohberger Arrested, Moscow, Nov 2022 #104

[Nila Aella]

His DNA is at the scene. Direct.
It's also in the victims bed where they were murdered, on a piece of evidence very much suited to the manner of death of the victims. Not direct but a very damning fact. MO

Direct/indirect transfer of the DNA in this case is important.
Which is why there was argument about terminology and what should/should not be allowed in expert opinion.
JMO

I think it's very negligent of her, especially when she's stated, in court to the judge, that she's absolutely overwhelmed by the case and it's mountains of discovery. MO

It's either negligence on her her part or she thinks a plea may stop the proceedings to trial. MO

The rules allow it.
The D has met their deadlines.

My understanding of what AT said:
It is not just the mountains of discovery, it is how it is being produced/or not to the defense. It is specifically what has happened since the P's December discovery deadline.

The Judge said he will look at the additional expert submissions to determine if they were appropriate or not.
Fair IMO.

JMO

 

[Slamalam]

A large amount of weight loss, a significant loss of muscle tone, coiffed eyebrows (no longer bushy, lol) and now a new wardrobe change from power suits and ties to diminutive button down shirts and pants. If he has such severe dexterity issues, I guess AT & CO. must button those up for him?

And we can't forge the incredible shrinking chair I mentioned at these latest rounds of hearings. He'll be sitting on the floor soon.

All tactics by the Defense to make BK look as less alike as the killer DM saw that night and as less threatening as possible with his alleged MH diagnosis's. Poor little incapable Bryan...

Not going to work, but nice try AT.

JMO

Also, look at AT’s height relative to the wood behind her in both pics. Not a lot of difference which makes me feel like it isn’t camera angles alone. IMO

 

[Cool Cats]

A large amount of weight loss, a significant loss of muscle tone, coiffed eyebrows (no longer bushy, lol) and now a new wardrobe change from power suits and ties to diminutive button down shirts and pants. If he has such severe dexterity issues, I guess AT & CO. must button those up for him?

And we can't forge the incredible shrinking chair I mentioned at these latest rounds of hearings. He'll be sitting on the floor soon.

All tactics by the Defense to make BK look as less alike as the killer DM saw that night and as less threatening as possible with his alleged MH diagnosis's. Poor little incapable Bryan...

Not going to work, but nice try AT.

JMO

Do they think the jury is stupid?

There are photos of how he looked in 2022 and 2023. Everyone's looks change when they sit in jail for years with no sunlight, no exercise and eating highly processed -- low nutrient - high carb foods. This fools no one.

2 Cents

 

[Nila Aella]

Evidence that the missing Timing Advance Reports exist:
10 months ago in the hearing with BP on May 30, 2024, BP said at about 24:29 that he was aware of the request for the timing advance reports from AT&T and several other companies and says they were turned over to the prosecutor's office. He claims he doesn't remember seeing these reports and wouldn't recognize them but he knows the Prosecution got them. CAST Agent Ballance helped BP write the request for the timing advance reports. On redirect, AT asks BP if he got timing advance records from May of 2023 and BP says she should ask LM and that he doesn't recall writing a new warrant for the Timing Advance Records at that time. That is clear testimony that the timing advance reports did exist prior to May 2023. In addition, LM, in his testimony said the session log he found on his computer contains the timing advance data from AT&T - for both the first and second warrant returns which he confirms are both for BK's phone and that he gave it to the Prosecutor the day before that hearing. On 4/19/23 LM was asked to create a map for the GJ and he took screenshots of this data. LM confirms he put in the call records and that the tower locations are already a part of the data in the file. He confirmed in this hearing that he sent AT evidence yesterday (day before the hearing) because he either forgot he had it or lost it on his laptop.

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LM testimony:

BP testimony:

JMO.

SFF

TY!!

Statements/responses
Hemisphere was not used, there are no ATRs, there are ATT ATR's but not for BK, the ATRs for BK don't exist, the ATRs are not in the P possession, GLDC did not provide ATRs until 2023, GLDC has a 7 day retention, we haven't seen them, I haven't seen them.

Still trying to figure out the 2023 ATRs.
There are 3 warrants. One ATT, one Verizon, one T mobile which seem to be the warrants mentioned? These all have a scope of June to August. No returns published.
ATT keeps records longer than Verizon and T Mobile.

Idaho Judicial Cases of Interest

Mr Jackson and RIM leadership at ATT/TMobile/Verizon could clear this up.

JMO

 

[Nila Aella]

Can AT name those men on LL? At this point, I would expect her investigator has found out who they were and know the motive.
All JMO.

JMO.

SFF
The people associated with the parked vehicle in the LL parking lot?
The vehicle that left at 4:23?

GH
4:52:04

JMO

 

[Nila Aella]

You mentioned that you posted her reply to Judge asking why she took on another DP case. That was one of the things I was wanting to hear (her reply to that). But I didn't see that in your post. You said she "explained the circumstances" of why she took the other case. Did that seem to answer Judge's question? I'm just trying to understand what she gave as answer to Judge when he asked her that.

She explained the circumstances of this case when she took the other case on: her hopes for the discovery deadline, what has happened since the December discovery....

She gave a reply, there is a long dialogue after the Judge mentions her other case.

7:38:29ish

JMO

 

[Warwick7]

The guy that dropped KG and MM saw the white Elantra? He saw it parked or in motion, do you know?

At about the 18:19 mark the information about the ride share guy starts.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1912262729014136914

 

[Warwick7]

The guy that dropped KG and MM saw the white Elantra? He saw it parked or in motion, do you know?

In the link up above is this screenshot.

 

[Warwick7]

The defense did acquiesce that the dna on the sheath is Kohberger's. There is nothing from them asking to perform their own testing.

Let that sink in.

 

[Cool Cats]

In the link up above is this screenshot.

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Too blurry to read and can't find link. Could someone post a clear link?

 

[jepop]

The guy that dropped KG and MM saw the white Elantra? He saw it parked or in motion, do you know?

No, not at 1122 King Road on Nov 13th. The driver lived in the same apartment block as BK in Pullman ( (X... number of metres from BK's front door is the way it is described).

He saw BK's Elantra parked there in the apartment parking lot in Pullman in early Dec 2022. As an uber driver he was making a list of white elantras he happened to come across after the public announcement on Dec 7th to try and help police.

ETA this info is in the Gray Hughes link posted just up thread. I couldn't read the text but listened to Gray Hughes read it.

 

[mrjitty]

So do we think AT is going to go all in and file a full crazy pants conspiracy about the real killers framing her client? Or does she have too much self respect to go beyond darkly hinting?

I think the Judge couldn't be clearer that he's not having a Delphi style trainwreck on his watch.

 

[Megnut]

So do we think AT is going to go all in and file a full crazy pants conspiracy about the real killers framing her client? Or does she have too much self respect to go beyond darkly hinting?

I think the Judge couldn't be clearer that he's not having a Delphi style trainwreck on his watch.

We have a ways to go.

I don't think she'll be able to present an alibi defense or a SODDI one, because there's just nothing to support either one.

I don't know what will come of Sy Ray. He had nothing to offer for 4 am. If the judge doesn't sanction AT for the allegations made with zero proof and doesn't strike the witness entirely, he may limit the scope of his testimony to 2:47 to 2:54 am. I don't see how that'll be helpful to AT. Sy Ray was most valuable to AT, IMO, at the pre-trial stage where she had hope of gaining advantage through overspeak and reputation. Blew up on her though because this judge can't be blustered.

There may be a battle brewing between AT and BK, if he wants to testify.

Ultimately, I think AT will utilize cross examination to attempt to raise moments of reasonable doubt -- witnesses, data -- without great success but it's really all she's got.

Turning BK into some kind of invalid won't fly.

JMO

 

[MeadowMuffin]

That's what velcro and loafers were invented for, people who either just don't want to bother to learn or simply have a problem with fine dexterity. Are his lawyers actually trying to use his unwillingness or inability to tie his shoes as a reason he shouldn't get the DP? Well that and his struggle to button his shirt?

Remember when the court ordered changes to the live feed???

Pool feed would focus on him, I mean REALLY focus on him, close ups of his jaw clenching as well as his fly. So Judge Judge, who was pretty angry about this, restricted placement of the cameras.

"Far from constituting an undue and over restrictive burden on the press' right of free speech," Kohbeger's lawyers said, "Mr. Kohberger is entitled to defend himself against capital criminal charges without cameras focused on his fly."

I remember at the time his fly was only open about a half inch or less but social media took off.

So I guess we can also say he can't zip his pants.

 

[INfisherman]

So I guess we can also say he can't zip his pants.

Maybe that’s their plan for SODDI.

 

[LadyL]

Forget everything about the two pictures for a second.

Now....

Look at the suit one, he is sitting higher than her. In the second one he is shorter than her. No matter how you slice it, AT and team want him to seem shorter or smaller. The same tactic was used with Patrick Frazee and Casey Anthony.

but if you look at the back of the two chairs that are visible, they are at the same height, in both pictures

I have no doubt Jose did it in the Casey trial, never watched the Frazee trial - I can understand why you and others think it's happening here too - I'm just not convinced

if I could see them all empty, that would help

JMO

 

[Warwick7]

Too blurry to read and can't find link. Could someone post a clear link?

 

[LadyL]

I do see what you’re saying about the camera angle and zoom.

However, it’s my opinion that the defense is indeed trying to project some kind of aura suggesting that BK is not a fully adult man.

Generally defense attorneys urge (or force) their male clients to wear a tie in court, so as to look more seemly.

Why did Bryan wear a tie in the first picture, but in the second not only is his jacket removed, but so is his tie?

IMO it makes his presentation appear sloppy, which is the opposite of the effect most defense attorneys hope to achieve.

I agree with @Warwick7, losing the jacket makes his shoulders seem less bulky, hence more weak, hence less threatening, hence incapable of committing a quadruple murder. Or so his attorneys hope.

Tricks are for kids. The DNA undoes all this posturing.

IMO

he definitely looks smaller in the shoulder area and sloppier
but yeah, he's going down regardless IMO

 

[INfisherman]

Too blurry to read and can't find link. Could someone post a clear link?

This is from ~18:25 mark of the YT video linked below. I paused & took 2 screen shots with it zoomed in for clarity if the above is still too blurry. The cropping issue of the 2nd image was present on the source.

 

[Warwick7]

This is from ~18:25 mark of the YT video linked below. I paused & took 2 screen shots with it zoomed in for clarity if the above is still too blurry. The cropping issue of the 2nd image was present on the source.

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Oh thank you!!! No matter how I posted it it still came out blurry.