4 Univ of Idaho Students Murdered, Bryan Kohberger Arrested, Moscow, Nov 2022 #104

[girlhasnoname]

Oh, my gosh! How did I miss this zipper detail?

Oh it was all the defense rage back when Judge Judge was in charge. LOL Trust me, nobody is interested in BK's fly. It was a fluke not intentional IMO.

 

[Kemug]

Honestly I don’t think BK cares about the possibility of death by firing squad as much as his attorney AT does. IMO he wants/is looking forward to going on trial as I think he’s likely enjoying all the attention and wants to drag things out as long as possible relishing in all the attention he’s getting. Negative attention is better than no attention, just my take on a part of the type of mindset I believe BK likely has.

Is he related to Lori Vallow Daybell then?

 

[Kemug]

Thank you Warwick7! Wow, the rideshare driver, who brought the girls home that night, wound up living so close to BK that he reported his Elantra...among a dozen others he saw while out and about.

And I bet that guy prays that he never ever gets that close to such an awful crime ever again.

 

[Nila Aella]

Look at the sitting 'height' of the women sitting next to BK. In the earlier picture, BK is a head taller than everyone else.

But in the most recent pictures his head is at the same height as women next to him. I don't think it is about camera angle. imo.

Camera angle, chairs, and posture

Some hearings have different chairs

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AT chair is lower.
Different type chair.

JMO

 

[Warwick7]

Camera angle, chairs, and posture
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JMO

After seeing all of this, I'm even more sure now the defense is attempting to shrink him.

 

[fcavanaugh]

DBM

 

[fcavanaugh]

Is he related to Lori Vallow Daybell then?

Right?! Makes you wonder sometimes doesn’t it. Tell you what Kemug, they might not be related but suffice to say cut from the same cloth, although dare I say BK lacking the, ahem cough cough, charm and charisma of LVD ughh cue vomit emoji.

IMHOO

 

[Warwick7]

I asked earlier about which door was open.

Did Xana come out to the kitchen to get a drink and maybe let's say wash some catsup or mayo off her hands? If she saw the slider open she would have shut it.

XK saying "someone’s here" has bugged me from the beginning. (I do think it was her.) It was a party house where there were likely random people in and out all of the time and where 5 people lived. There would always be noises. Besides, in the past, how often had KG drunk texted her boyfriend late and he came over?

As for the slider, if BK had left it open and she shut it. Was that enough to prompt her to say "someone's here"?

And why would she just say that outloud? If she did call out "someone's here" who was she talking too? DM said by 4am everyone was in their rooms or asleep. And getting her food from doordash I would imagine she was already trying to be quiet.

I used to think she went to use the bathroom and then saw BK. But, the bathroom is right next to her bedroom. She would have had to have been startled by him in the kitchen.

Could Ethan had woke up and asked her if she would get him a glass of water? If he was slightly awake that could be him she's saying out loud "someone's here."

During those seconds at seeing him did fear set in? She ran to her bedroom but couldn't keep him out. He may have slashed her and at the same time Ethan could have yelled "What's going on!" BK had no choice but to attack him. After that he turns around and says to her that he's there to help...

I have often wondered by the time he stepped away from EC if she had attempted to stand up. Then when he attacked her again, she fell hard. Maybe that's why the neighbors camera picked up the thud.

 

[fcavanaugh]

"During the April 9 hearing, defense attorney Anne Taylor attempted to argue that the prosecution is intentionally slow-walking discovery, but later admitted that all requests from the defense have been provided."

Bryan Kohberger defense aims to create 'illusion' with renewed bid to toss evidence: ex-FBI agent

Bryan Kohberger's defense team is trying to create an "illusion" for future jurors with a new effort to get certain evidence tossed, a former FBI special agent said

www.fox13seattle.com

Thank you for posting, I was listening to the hearing while working and missed this.
So AT ended up conceding that they did receive all discovery from the state after accusing the state of intentionally slow-walking it, which imo is a serious accusation.
Wow between that and the inflammatory accusations by defense witness Sy Ray stating in his Affadavit that the state was withholding exculpatory evidence, seems to me to be deliberate attempts to mislead the court.

AT’s lucky she didn’t get sanctioned but maybe because she ended up admitting all discovery was provided notably only after Jennings pushed back against her accusations?

At the least, imo seems a dirty trick AT tried to pull over on the court/Judge. Doing your job and providing robust defense of your client is one thing, playing games in court is another. We’ve seen this before and we see you AT.
Not impressed.

IMHOO

 

[girlhasnoname]

Thank you for posting, I was listening to the hearing while working and missed this.
So AT ended up conceding that they did receive all discovery from the state after accusing the state of intentionally slow-walking it, which imo is a serious accusation.
Wow between that and the inflammatory accusations by defense witness Sy Ray stating in his Affadavit that the state was withholding exculpatory evidence, seems to me to be deliberate attempts to mislead the court.

AT’s lucky she didn’t get sanctioned but maybe because she ended up admitting all discovery was provided notably only after Jennings pushed back against her accusations?

At the least, imo seems a dirty trick AT tried to pull over on the court/Judge. Doing your job and providing robust defense of your client is one thing, playing games in court is another. We’ve seen this before and we see you AT.
Not impressed.

IMHOO

I was impressed with AT as a Defense Attorney and still think she is smart, intelligent, and more than capable of affording BK competent representation. She was given a heaping pile of dog pooh to work with on a highly publicized DP case, so I've given her a pass on things.

What I have come to not appreciate is her latest 'word salad' whining and unfounded accusations against the State, which turn out to be false or 'not quite true'. Bad form and a big disappointment from her.

I would love to know what she REALLY thinks of BK, not as a client, but just as a person accused of the quadruple murder of such great young people. I still wonder what BK's participation is, if any, in his case? If or how he interacts with his attorneys?

I guess he's busy trying to act incompetent these days. He's either medicated, is practicing for trial, or both. He was much more assured and active in previous hearings. He def is shrinking physically over the past months, intentionally I believe to look as less alike of DM's description as possible, and as unimposing or threatening in general.

JMO

 

[Balthazar]

The defense did acquiesce that the dna on the sheath is Kohberger's. There is nothing from them asking to perform their own testing.

Let that sink in.

The sample size was miniscule (alleged to be 20 skin cells or less by Blum) and completely used up in original testing. There was nothing left for the defense TO test.

 

[SteveP]

The sample size was miniscule (alleged to be 20 skin cells or less by Blum) and completely used up in original testing. There was nothing left for the defense TO test.

Unfortunately for BK, even if it was only 20 cells or less, which I do not believe, that is still 20 or less of his cells than of anyone else's. Did Blum offer any evidence to back up his claim, or should we just assume it is true since he is a published author? Did Blum have any "alleged" idea how even 20 of BK's skin cells ended up there? Is there any proof that all of the DNA was used in testing? JMO

 

[iamshadow21]

The sample size was miniscule (alleged to be 20 skin cells or less by Blum) and completely used up in original testing. There was nothing left for the defense TO test.

Hasn't that been completely debunked? Why is Blum's twenty cells claim getting recycled when we have far more accurate detailed information from the recent court hearings?

MOO

 

[SteveP]

Hasn't that been completely debunked? Why is Blum's twenty cells claim getting recycled when we have far more accurate detailed information from the recent court hearings?

MOO

Well, because it fits a particular narrative, apparently.. JMO

 

[jepop]

Hasn't that been completely debunked? Why is Blum's twenty cells claim getting recycled when we have far more accurate detailed information from the recent court hearings?

MOO

Imo, completely debunked. Those with a better understanding of the evidence from recent (Jan 2024) hearing and filings will no doubt post links to the correct information shortly. Imo thousands of cells on the sheathe button. Who said 20 cells? Oh Blum. Enough said. Moo

 

[Warwick7]

The sample size was miniscule (alleged to be 20 skin cells or less by Blum) and completely used up in original testing. There was nothing left for the defense TO test.

I don't believe that.
I need to see and read the link.

 

[Warwick7]

The sample size was miniscule (alleged to be 20 skin cells or less by Blum) and completely used up in original testing. There was nothing left for the defense TO test.

As for Blum... I'm not impressed with his statements. As I watched 48 Hours he came across as wily and coy. Those are the best words I can come up with. Because as I viewed it he left a bad taste in my mouth.

 

[jepop]

I don't believe that.
I need to see and read the link.

I think you won't find Blum being able to credit any reliable source. Moo poor old Blum confused the number of criteria ( the technical name escapes me but I have researched this in detail a couple of months back) for comparison of samples in codis ( this number happens to be 20) with the actual number of epithelial cells extracted from the knife sheathe.

There is also something in recent court docs, from Jan hearings I believe, that spoke to the amount of DNA on the snap button and it was certainly more than the equivalent of 20 cells. Blum's claim is rubbish imo. I can't stand Blum and am bias, in case you didn't notice!!

 

[iamshadow21]

I think you won't find Blum being able to credit any reliable source. Moo poor old Blum confused the number of criteria ( the technical name escapes me but I have researched this in detail a couple of months back) for comparison of samples in codis ( this number happens to be 20) with the actual number of epithelial cells extracted from the knife sheathe.

There is also something in recent court docs, from Jan hearings I believe, that spoke to the amount of DNA on the snap button and it was certainly more than the equivalent of 20 cells. Blum's claim is rubbish imo. I can't stand Blum and am bias, in case you didn't notice!!

It's loci. CODIS requires 20 loci. (Point 19 at the link.)

CODIS and NDIS Fact Sheet | Federal Bureau of Investigation

A compilation of frequently-asked questions about the Combined DNA Index System (CODIS) and the National DNA Index System (NDIS).

www.fbi.gov

 

[jepop]

It's loci. CODIS requires 20 loci.

CODIS and NDIS Fact Sheet | Federal Bureau of Investigation

A compilation of frequently-asked questions about the Combined DNA Index System (CODIS) and the National DNA Index System (NDIS).

www.fbi.gov

Thankyou, loci.