4 Univ of Idaho Students Murdered, Bryan Kohberger Arrested, Moscow, Nov 2022 #104

[Warwick7]

Interesting tidbit from the judge. I don’t think he was talking hypothetically when he mentioned Kohberger purchasing the knife using an Amazon gift card, he had purchased with a credit card.

This is unbelievable
It's as if he put a sticky note on each of his steps that said: "This is what I did and when."
For a criminologist, he quite stupid.

 

[Megnut]

"Fundamental different world views " -- the Judge's polite assessment

 

[NoeticSoul]

10 minute recess.

 

[Megnut]

I feel like I'm watching a high school debate team playing trial, cold.

The judge is schooling seasoned attorneys who are IMO demonstrating that they either don't know criminal law or they are pretending they don't.

It is not a good look for Team D.

jmo

 

[NoeticSoul]

I feel like I'm watching a high school debate team playing trial, cold.

The judge is schooling seasoned attorneys who are IMO demonstrating that they either don't know criminal law or they are pretending they don't.

It is not a good look for Team D.

jmo

ITA! Especially after Judge had to remind AT that she was an officer of the court. He seems very annoyed at this point.

moo

 

[Megnut]

This is unbelievable
It's as if he put a sticky note on each of his steps that said: "This is what I did and when."
For a criminologist, he quite stupid.

Come on! Super clever criminal maneuver, burying his purchase one layer deep with a gift card payment. Using the gift card he bought.

Schools should recall his degrees.

JMO

 

[katydid23]

[here are very sparse condensed notes from the part about Sy Ray]


ATT stuff:

P= this should be fairly simple, the D continues to allege that the P has received Timing Advance Records—that is FALSE
In 22 we had 7 days to get TARs for anyones phone—we did receive some reports then

By the time we knew of the suspect, we were out of that 7 day window

We have an affidavit to show this...


Judge—D filed something yesterday concerning this.....—


P—yes, those records were part of original request to preserve records

D— we want to show and will …

Judge—what evidence do u have that they have BKs ATRs? Ray seems to ignore that 7 day rule...


D—let me explain—there was a carrier request for BKs ATRs and there was a new way to obtain those ...
We’ve never heard from Nick Balance— about the other way...

Judge—His inflammatory language includes a glaring admission on Rays part

D—your honour…there is more to …

J—would u agree there’s no evidence that the ATR records of BK even exists?

D—[She waffles…]\\

Judge—what’s the evidence?

D—I got 3800 people's Timing Advance records

Judge—those were within the 7 days

P—I understand that...
But I don’t know if they made a request for his in that 7 day period


Judge—how could they? They didn’t know who they BK was...


D—I know that…Your honour we have trued to litigate this—I want to question Balance about this issue...

Judge—I want to know about this inflammatory accusation by mr Ray…he seems to ignore specific details...

D—there might be other records out there..

Judge—I understand your confusion and concerns—what I don’t understand is his inflammatory accusation without referencing this 7 day rule
He doesn’t discuss that issue at all— I need some factual foundation that it was available to them once BK was identified


D— I want to question Balance about this...


Judge-I’ll let you ask him that outside of jury, during the tria

I said awhile ago—I don’t want drama and inflammatory accusations, the kind that get people disbarred, I’m not happy...

P—we did NOT receive those records from ATTandT—We do not have them


Judge—I will not allow questions or discussion about that during the trial unless we have a factual submission of evidence first.

 

[LinasK]

Defense wants the traffic stop out because they say the crime is prior act but not on a level with the crime.

Defense says it show BK in Moscow, at night, in the car, arguing, not wanting to give his phone number... clear video of the car...

They don't want the State to introduce all those elements to the jury.

Judge: why is that a problem?

D: because it might show that his car is similar to the one in the 1122 video.

Judge: isn't that the point?

That's so funny! Reminds me of the scene in the movie Liar, Liar when the judge is talking to Jim Carrey and he has to admit that the evidence convicts his client.

 

[NoeticSoul]

[here are very sparse condensed notes from the part about Sy Ray]


ATT stuff:

P= this should be fairly simple, the D continues to allege that the P has received Timing Advance Records—that is FALSE
In 22 we had 7 days to get TARs for anyones phone—we did receive some reports then

By the time we knew of the suspect, we were out of that 7 day window

We have an affidavit to show this...


Judge—D filed something yesterday concerning this.....—


P—yes, those records were part of original request to preserve records

D— we want to show and will …

Judge—what evidence do u have that they have BKs ATRs? Ray seems to ignore that 7 day rule...


D—let me explain—there was a carrier request for BKs ATRs and there was a new way to obtain those ...
We’ve never heard from Nick Balance— about the other way...

Judge—His inflammatory language includes a glaring admission on Rays part

D—your honour…there is more to …

J—would u agree there’s no evidence that the ATR records of BK even exists?

D—[She waffles…]\\

Judge—what’s the evidence?

D—I got 3800 people's Timing Advance records

Judge—those were within the 7 days

P—I understand that...
But I don’t know if they made a request for his in that 7 day period


Judge—how could they? They didn’t know who they BK was...


D—I know that…Your honour we have trued to litigate this—I want to question Balance about this issue...

Judge—I want to know about this inflammatory accusation by mr Ray…he seems to ignore specific details...

D—there might be other records out there..

Judge—I understand your confusion and concerns—what I don’t understand is his inflammatory accusation without referencing this 7 day rule
He doesn’t discuss that issue at all— I need some factual foundation that it was available to them once BK was identified


D— I want to question Balance about this...


Judge-I’ll let you ask him that outside of jury, during the tria

I said awhile ago—I don’t want drama and inflammatory accusations, the kind that get people disbarred, I’m not happy...

P—we did NOT receive those records from ATTandT—We do not have them


Judge—I will not allow questions or discussion about that during the trial unless we have a factual submission of evidence first.

Thank you! I missed allot of that

 

[NoeticSoul]

We're back regarding psychological issues and mental health of BK (neurobiological and physical conditions). Defense sites no professional developmental diagnosis and just plays to jury sympathies per prosecution.

 

[jepop]

I wanted to smart off and say: "Oh, why don't you just ask him AT?"

That's exactly what she told triple JJJ in April 2024. I missed the denouement to the alibi shizen. Did Hippler call BS on the mumbo jumbo,? Last part I watched, AT was insinuating prosecution could be hiding something because they want certainty over the alibi mumbo jumbo! What the actual... Lost some respect for AT today, beginning with that little alibi blame game before the crescendo of her dressing down over Sy Ray.

Sy Ray, heading for a fall and now fallen. Moo

 

[Megnut]

State is up, says there's no rule whereby the Defense can introduce expert testimony to explain BK's behaviors as to courtroom presentation.

Oh, my. The Defense's expert doesn't seem to support their claims. BK tried to manipulate the assessment???? Did I hear that right?????

 

[NoeticSoul]

State is up, says there's no rule whereby the Defense can introduce expert testimony to explain BK's behaviors as to courtroom presentation.

Oh, my. The Defense's expert doesn't seem to support their claims. BK tried to manipulate the assessment???? Did I hear that right?????

YES you sure did!

 

[Warwick7]

We're back regarding psychological issues and mental health of BK (neurobiological and physical conditions). Defense sites no professional developmental diagnosis and just plays to jury sympathies per prosecution.

Wait! What?!
There is no professional developmental diagnosis for BK?
Maybe I just misunderstood...

 

[Warwick7]

YES you sure did!

Now my head is spinning.....

 

[NoeticSoul]

Wait! What?!
There is no professional developmental diagnosis for BK?
Maybe I just misunderstood...

You did not. Apparently, no there is not. IT's from his "past"... moo

 

[Megnut]

Defense says they aren't arguing that BK has a mental health condition...

Judge: are you taking the position that ASD is a mental health condition for the penalty phase but not one for the guilt phase?

 

[detectivewannab]

ITA! Especially after Judge had to remind AT that she was an officer of the court. He seems very annoyed at this point.

moo

What did she do?

 

[Warwick7]

We're back regarding psychological issues and mental health of BK (neurobiological and physical conditions). Defense sites no professional developmental diagnosis and just plays to jury sympathies per prosecution.

State is up, says there's no rule whereby the Defense can introduce expert testimony to explain BK's behaviors as to courtroom presentation.

Oh, my. The Defense's expert doesn't seem to support their claims. BK tried to manipulate the assessment???? Did I hear that right?????

Wait! What?!
There is no professional developmental diagnosis for BK?
Maybe I just misunderstood...

 

[NoeticSoul]

Now my head is spinning.....

Don't let it be. BK is faking Autism now... moo to try to save himself from death. How Fn ironic..

MOO