4 Univ of Idaho Students Murdered, Bryan Kohberger Arrested, Moscow, Nov 2022 #104

[Gemmie]

Whose bedroom is C?

Xana's.

 

[fcavanaugh]

She took on a second DP case in the midst of representing a client accused, with direct evidence, of murdering in cold blood 4 young and vital college kids!? I'd say that's a bit negligent of her. Wouldn't you? Well unless her plan is to plea soon and not go to trial?

RBBM
I’m wondering about that.
We know that sometimes Prosecutors will offer/negotiate a plea deal if they don’t think they have a strong enough case against a defendant to be able to win/prove BARD at trial. In this case, I personally think they’ve had a strong case all along but as a hypothetical, even IF during the past 2 years of proceedings, the P offered BK a plea deal behind closed doors, AT might have encouraged BK to take it but I can see him defiantly refusing to do so.

At any rate, at this late point with trial looming, I think even if the D were to approach the P to offer a plea, I don’t think P would accept as I believe they’re well prepared,
appear confident they have a strong case they can prove BARD aka get a conviction at trial.

Honestly I don’t think BK cares about the possibility of death by firing squad as much as his attorney AT does. IMO he wants/is looking forward to going on trial as I think he’s likely enjoying all the attention and wants to drag things out as long as possible relishing in all the attention he’s getting. Negative attention is better than no attention, just my take on a part of the type of mindset I believe BK likely has.

IMHOO

 

[Boxer]

RBBM
I’m wondering about that.
We know that sometimes Prosecutors will offer/negotiate a plea deal if they don’t think they have a strong enough case against a defendant to be able to win/prove BARD at trial. In this case, I personally think they’ve had a strong case all along but as a hypothetical, even IF during the past 2 years of proceedings, the P offered BK a plea deal behind closed doors, AT might have encouraged BK to take it but I can see him defiantly refusing to do so.

At any rate, at this late point with trial looming, I think even if the D were to approach the P to offer a plea, I don’t think P would accept as I believe they’re well prepared,
appear confident they have a strong case they can prove BARD aka get a conviction at trial.

Honestly I don’t think BK cares about the possibility of death by firing squad as much as his attorney AT does. IMO he wants/is looking forward to going on trial as I think he’s likely enjoying all the attention and wants to drag things out as long as possible relishing in all the attention he’s getting. Negative attention is better than no attention, just my take on a part of the mindset I believe BK likely has.

IMHOO

Agree. Why would he want to end all this attention?
Only if had remorse and empathy for the families which he doesnt.

 

[Nila Aella]

She took on a second DP case in the midst of representing a client accused, with direct evidence,

This is a circumstantial case.
JMO

of murdering in cold blood 4 young and vital college kids!? I'd say that's a bit negligent of her. Wouldn't you?

No
Is there some rule that says an attorney cannot have more than one case?
IMO JHipp should focus on where the problem in this case originates.
JMO

Well unless her plan is to plea soon and not go to trial?

Perhaps that was the plan for her other case?
There may be a strong reason that she is unable to disclose in JHipps Court.
JMO

 

[Nila Aella]

DBM

 

[Chloegirl]

Yup.

Physically unable to commit the crime.

Cognitively unable to participate in his defense, unable to present well if he were to testify.

And the jury will convict him of weirdness unless AT can prepare them for it.

JMO

I can only imagine how difficult interacting with his mindset might be -- past, present and future.

Lots of people, with a diagnosis on board or not and whether we think they are capable of it, have committed such crimes. All smoke! JMOO

I know a lot of folks out there are interested in the judicial system but following this case has made me the opposite. It's frustrating; the rights that potential perpetrators have but not the victims.

 

[MassGuy]

Order on motion regarding family members in courtroom:

https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/CR01-24-31665/2025/041625+Order+on+Motion+in+Limine+RE+Family+Members+in+Courtroom.pdf

 

[Megnut]

Order on motion regarding family members in courtroom:

https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/CR01-24-31665/2025/041625+Order+on+Motion+in+Limine+RE+Family+Members+in+Courtroom.pdf

At a glance, judge approves victims' families being permitted in court and reserved for the defendant's family.

Asking the State to provide an ex parte explanation for which members will be called and any reason for which they can't be called to testify early.

 

[Ghostwheel]

Re: Sliding door open

Franks Order

the sliding glass door to the residence the same door toward which D.M. reportedly saw the suspect walk was left open.

page 22

https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/CR01-24-31665/2025/021925-Order-Defedants-Moton-Franks-Hearing.pdf

You left out this part
However, Defendant's argument assumes, without proof, there were no doors left open in the home after the suspect left. This assumption is not only speculative, but contrary to evidence in his proffer that the sliding glass door to the residence the same door toward which D.M. reportedly saw the suspect walk was left open.

This means the defendants argument assumes no doors left open but had already held out for acceptance that the door was left open, so was contradicting one with the other, but neither is shown here to be true, just claimed.

 

[Warwick7]

Re: Sliding door open

Franks Order

the sliding glass door to the residence the same door toward which D.M. reportedly saw the suspect walk was left open.

page 22

https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/CR01-24-31665/2025/021925-Order-Defedants-Moton-Franks-Hearing.pdf

Thank you

 

[Warwick7]

You left out this part
However, Defendant's argument assumes, without proof, there were no doors left open in the home after the suspect left. This assumption is not only speculative, but contrary to evidence in his proffer that the sliding glass door to the residence the same door toward which D.M. reportedly saw the suspect walk was left open.

This means the defendants assumes no doors left open but had already held out for acceptance that the door was left open, so was contradicting one with the other, but neither is shown here to be true, just claimed.

Thank you

 

[Warwick7]

Re: Sliding door open

Franks Order

the sliding glass door to the residence the same door toward which D.M. reportedly saw the suspect walk was left open.

page 22

https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/CR01-24-31665/2025/021925-Order-Defedants-Moton-Franks-Hearing.pdf

You left out this part
However, Defendant's argument assumes, without proof, there were no doors left open in the home after the suspect left. This assumption is not only speculative, but contrary to evidence in his proffer that the sliding glass door to the residence the same door toward which D.M. reportedly saw the suspect walk was left open.

This means the defendants argument assumes no doors left open but had already held out for acceptance that the door was left open, so was contradicting one with the other, but neither is shown here to be true, just claimed.

So which is it?

 

[Ghostwheel]

So which is it?

Both of these are true, mine just added the rest of the paragraph which keeps it in the proper context. I don't know if the sliding door was or was not left open, myself. I've not seen anything that says that the sliding door was left open, either as in open, open or just unlocked open as a known fact. The information that was in the Frank's Hearing motion was about a contradiction of two claims, not two facts as far as I can see. It gets so confusing.

 

[Nila Aella]

Press Conference 11/16/2022
Chief Fry
No damage to anything and the door was still open when we got there.

10:42

 

[Warwick7]

Press Conference 11/16/2022
Chief Fry
No damage to anything and the door was still open when we got there.

10:42

I haven't watched it yet, I will tonight.
But which door was still open?

 

[Sachi]

this might be a very redundant subject. Sorry in advance.

The diagram has me thinking and ..
If Bedroom D was Dylans, is that correct? In order to see "balaclava clad eyebrow man walking toward her and out the slider ,if her door opens the way it looks it does, the murderer would be coming from Xana's room and go right toward the slider, correct?

 

[Warwick7]

this might be a very redundant subject. Sorry in advance.

The diagram has me thinking and ..
If Bedroom D was Dylans, is that correct? In order to see "balaclava clad eyebrow man walking toward her and out the slider ,if her door opens the way it looks it does, the murderer would be coming from Xana's room and go right toward the slider, correct?

Yes, that's what I've gathered.

 

[Warwick7]

this might be a very redundant subject. Sorry in advance.

The diagram has me thinking and ..
If Bedroom D was Dylans, is that correct? In order to see "balaclava clad eyebrow man walking toward her and out the slider ,if her door opens the way it looks it does, the murderer would be coming from Xana's room and go right toward the slider, correct?

Yes.
And GH put a bit more today. Much what we've heard already. However, he goes through each bedroom. It's rather interesting.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1912622004924293489

 

[Nila Aella]

I haven't watched it yet, I will tonight.
But which door was still open?

Transcript

Question

chrome 2 News you mentioned that there's an indication that it's an isolated
targeted incident and there is an individual somewhere can you give us a reason as to why there's that belief there is a suspect and can you also give a little more information on the forced entry - there's no sign of forced entry but was the door did it seem like any of the entries were left unlocked by any means

Answer
10:45
I'll add to the last part there just because it's at the front end of my mind we're not 100 sure if the door was unlocked but there was no damage to anything and the door was still open when we got there.

 

[Warwick7]

Transcript

Question

chrome 2 News you mentioned that there's an indication that it's an isolated
targeted incident and there is an individual somewhere can you give us a reason as to why there's that belief there is a suspect and can you also give a little more information on the forced entry - there's no sign of forced entry but was the door did it seem like any of the entries were left unlocked by any means

Answer
10:45
I'll add to the last part there just because it's at the front end of my mind we're not 100 sure if the door was unlocked but there was no damage to anything and the door was still open when we got there.

Bummer, still doesn't say which door.