4 Univ of Idaho Students Murdered, Bryan Kohberger Arrested, Moscow, Nov 2022 #106

[Justice101]

Right, and wasn't there pictures early on of CSI looking at skid marks at the scene?

yes, but they looked older and so they were just gathering ALL POTENTIAL evidence.

 

[Sachi]

He talked for considerably longer than an hour. He placed three calls to a phone in Pa, registered to his father, that morning. First call was placed at 6:17am, BK's time, literally two hours after leaving the King Road house, and lasted 36 minutes. There were two other calls, including the one that lasted 54 mins. I wonder if that was normal routine for him? I find it very hard to believe that three calls, lasting for that duration, at that time of day, did not register as unusual to his parents. I would love to know if he acted and sounded normal on those calls, or whether he seemed unusually excited or chatty. If not before, then certainly after some details of the murders began to come out, details such as time of murders, general appearance of suspect car, description of type of weapon used, one would think that whoever he talked to that morning would reflect back on those calls, with perhaps new concerns. No one wants to believe that one of their loved ones could be capable of such horrendous acts, but at some point, that had to cross their minds. We know it did for one sister, at least, and allegedly perhaps his father, as well. JMO

Was the 1st call about bolstering an alibi? I woke up called my folks…

 

[Justice101]

He talked for considerably longer than an hour. He placed three calls to a phone in Pa, registered to his father, that morning. First call was placed at 6:17am, BK's time, literally two hours after leaving the King Road house, and lasted 36 minutes. There were two other calls, including the one that lasted 54 mins. I wonder if that was normal routine for him? I find it very hard to believe that three calls, lasting for that duration, at that time of day, did not register as unusual to his parents. I would love to know if he acted and sounded normal on those calls, or whether he seemed unusually excited or chatty. If not before, then certainly after some details of the murders began to come out, details such as time of murders, general appearance of suspect car, description of type of weapon used, one would think that whoever he talked to that morning would reflect back on those calls, with perhaps new concerns. No one wants to believe that one of their loved ones could be capable of such horrendous acts, but at some point, that had to cross their minds. We know it did for one sister, at least, and allegedly perhaps his father, as well. JMO

Deleted. .. less than intelligent response to this. Haha not on my game this morning

 

[Justice101]

Was the 1st call about bolstering an alibi? I woke up called my folks…

That is where I was thinking. Since nothing on the news or police channel, wondering if he was like "wow, bodies are not discovered yet, maybe they'll get the time of death wrong or at least with the + or - this phone call of mine might establish an alibi". Since he knew he was so "smart" to turn off his phone while the murders took place.

He might be book smart but that's about it.

Again, once the DNA identified him.. there was nowhere for him to hide from all the evidence he had left physically and electronically.

No DNA = No case.

 

[mickey2942]

MoO is that he was exhausted and by the time he registered seeing her he was already gone.

Or so amped up, he didn't notice her.

 

[SteveP]

The phone call I really want to hear about is the first call that he either told his parents about the murders, or they heard of them through news or internet. What about the first call after it became known that LE were looking for a car very similar to his? Did he quickly point out that he was glad that his was a 2015, since they were looking for a 2011-2013? Was he eager to talk to his parents about the murders, as news unfolded, or did they ask him about them? Did they avoid the subject? Did he steer talk away from them if they came up? Did he pretend not to be following them, or conversely, did he give them "too much" information, perhaps some that was not yet public? What was the point at which the first family member thought, omg, it may have been him? Did they share that with all of the other family members right away? Did anyone dare ask BK about any similarities or coincidences they may have become aware of?

Those are the phone calls I really want to hear about. JMO

 

[DizzyB]

The phone call I really want to hear about is the first call that he either told his parents about the murders, or they heard of them through news or internet. What about the first call after it became known that LE were looking for a car very similar to his? Did he quickly point out that he was glad that his was a 2015, since they were looking for a 2011-2013? Was he eager to talk to his parents about the murders, as news unfolded, or did they ask him about them? Did they avoid the subject? Did he steer talk away from them if they came up? Did he pretend not to be following them, or conversely, did he give them "too much" information, perhaps some that was not yet public? What was the point at which the first family member thought, omg, it may have been him? Did they share that with all of the other family members right away? Did anyone dare ask BK about any similarities or coincidences they may have become aware of?

Those are the phone calls I really want to hear about. JMO

His Dad was pretty chatty during the LE stop on the drive home to PA on 12/15. Can you imagine if he mentioned that their car was similar to the one they were looking for? BK would have loved that.

 

[Justice101]

His Dad was pretty chatty during the LE stop on the drive home to PA on 12/15. Can you imagine if he mentioned that their car was similar to the one they were looking for? BK would have loved that.

I can't imagine 24 hours in car a driving cross country with his father that someone didn't bring it up... becasue of all the publicity.

And if the subject of the Murders in Moscow came up, BK would have said something along the tunes of "Yeh, it's crazy! Everyone is scared. We can't believe there is a murdered in town. We never thought anything like this could happen in here. I wish I worked for the Moscow PD and could find this SOB who did this senseless act! I'd nail them in a heartbeat. People are even scared over here in Pullman. The rumor is the person was military. The other rumor was it was drug deal gone bad."

Thinking of this... what was known at the time, at least what was publicly released?:
1) Death by sharp object like a knife?
2) White Elantra?

Is that it?

 

[Baby baby Jane]

He talked for considerably longer than an hour. He placed three calls to a phone in Pa, registered to his father, that morning. First call was placed at 6:17am, BK's time, literally two hours after leaving the King Road house, and lasted 36 minutes. There were two other calls, including the one that lasted 54 mins. I wonder if that was normal routine for him? I find it very hard to believe that three calls, lasting for that duration, at that time of day, did not register as unusual to his parents. I would love to know if he acted and sounded normal on those calls, or whether he seemed unusually excited or chatty. If not before, then certainly after some details of the murders began to come out, details such as time of murders, general appearance of suspect car, description of type of weapon used, one would think that whoever he talked to that morning would reflect back on those calls, with perhaps new concerns. No one wants to believe that one of their loved ones could be capable of such horrendous acts, but at some point, that had to cross their minds. We know it did for one sister, at least, and allegedly perhaps his father, as well. JMO

He called his dad … at 4:17 AM Penn time on a Sunday?
Wonder if that’s …. typical ?

 

[sassyblue]

He called his dad … at 4:17 AM Penn time on a Sunday?
Wonder if that’s …. typical ?

Time zone goes the other direction...he called him at 9:17 PA time.

 

[Justice101]

He called his dad … at 4:17 AM Penn time on a Sunday?
Wonder if that’s …. typical ?

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[SteveP]

He called his dad … at 4:17 AM Penn time on a Sunday?
Wonder if that’s …. typical ?

No, it was 6:17am, Washington time, PST. It was 9:17am in Penn., EST. Still seems awfully early on his end though, to be so chatty. I would think that would have seemed unusual, but maybe not for him.

 

[Justice101]

No, it was 6:17am, Washington time, PST. It was 9:17am in Penn., EST. Still seems awfully early on his end though, to be so chatty. I would think that would have seemed unusual, but maybe not for him.

deleted (again!). man, my brain is mis-firing today!

 

[Vaderman]

Did they expand on why it's believed Maddie was the target? I thought it was interesting that they stated she was the target and that Kaylee would have surprised him, considering the narrative for so long seemed to be that Kaylee was the target.

 

[Arkay]

No, it was 6:17am, Washington time, PST. It was 9:17am in Penn., EST. Still seems awfully early on his end though, to be so chatty. I would think that would have seemed unusual, but maybe not for him.

Same.

If he’s notorious for being a night owl, perhaps making a call at that time is not so unusual for him, and 9-ish may be a reasonable time for his father to receive a call.

To me, it’s the length of time of the call that triggers suspicion. Some kind of weak alibi? Coming down maybe from the “thrill” of what he’d done? How frequently beforehand did he call his dad multiple times at the start of the workday on the East coast?

Just speculating.

 

[SteveP]

Did they expand on why it's believed Maddie was the target? I thought it was interesting that they stated she was the target and that Kaylee would have surprised him, considering the narrative for so long seemed to be that Kaylee was the target.

Dateline reported that it is believed that when he entered through the second floor, unlocked slider, the killer bypassed the two bedrooms on that level and went directly upstairs to Maddie's room, leading investigators to conclude that she was the primary target. If BK had no prior connection to any of the victims, as is thought, Maddie is the one he most easily could have spied on, and become fixated on, as her bedroom window could be easily seen into from the parking area beside and behind the house, where he likely stopped and perved many of the alleged 23 previous trips to within 100 meters of the house. JMO

 

[Megnut]

I doubt BK EVER talks about what other people want to talk about. Including at traffic stops.

He talks about what HE wants to talk about.

Thai food and PA's lack of crosswalks...

I am going to guess that his sisters were very aware he had never dated anyone while boasting about the hot Moscow girls... and parties he never attended or barely attended.

Girl mentions hiking. BK shows up where people are hiking. I think he's an opportunist, wherebry HE is not only taking advantage of opportunities, he's busy creating them.

Like his colleague, where he creeps her out by moving things around in her apartment (maybe not his first time there either, maybe just the first time he pushed it so far she noticed it), in order then to orchestrate a false sense of security which he could next exploit.

Something perverse and sadistic about that.

Maybe HE didn't sit in the chair but he forced XK to.

XK's music goes of at 4:12, the audio starts at 4:17.... it suggests that he was engaged with XK for five minutes, that is a loooooong forever when one side of the conversation has a Kbar.

Somehow he had her incapacitated, by force or injury, while he murdered EC. In that moment IMO XK had no world outside her room. And honestly, who could expect her to. I doubt she was able even to comprehend he may have murdered KG and MM, BF and DM. She would have been consumed with survival and trying to make since of what was happening in her room. Whimpers, crying, IMO involuntary utterances, she might not have been aware herself that she did or didn't make a sound.

I can't myself make much sense of the audio but could the thud have occurred outside, BK jumping from a retaining wall, for instance?

Could 'It's okay in here to help you' been what DM and the audio picked up, DM looks out, BK is leaving, jumps off a retaining wall, dog starts barking, all one sequence, occurring within seconds?

jmo

 

[Cool Cats]

Hey all! Long time WSer here (although predominantly UK based thread) who had taken an extended hiatus from WS as it took up too much of my time lol.

So upon deciding to venture back on Ws, what do I do? Decide to look into this case and have now spent every available minute of the last 4 weeks reading every post of every 106 threads.. glutton for punishment!!

Do I think LE have the right guy? 100%
Do I think it's a slam dunk case? It's certainly heading that way although who knows what curve balls may be thrown.

On a side note. I hope LE never have any reason to check my Amazon clicks!

I bought a cat shirt on Amazon, maybe some dinner knives. Probably won't raise red flags.

 

[SteveP]

Same.

If he’s notorious for being a night owl, perhaps making a call at that time is not so unusual for him, and 9-ish may be a reasonable time for his father to receive a call.

To me, it’s the length of time of the call that triggers suspicion. Some kind of weak alibi? Coming down maybe from the “thrill” of what he’d done? How frequently beforehand did he call his dad multiple times at the start of the workday on the East coast?

Just speculating.

Keep in mind, this would have been a Sunday morning, when people who do not normally attend church at that time may choose to sleep in a bit longer than on weekdays, and those who do attend, may be up early to get ready to go to services, as his parents perhaps did. Does not seem like the ideal time to be chatting, on Sunday morning, to me. JMO

 

[girlhasnoname]

His Dad was pretty chatty during the LE stop on the drive home to PA on 12/15. Can you imagine if he mentioned that their car was similar to the one they were looking for? BK would have loved that.

His Dad did mention to the cop that pulled them over in Indiana that BK went to WSU "the place where those murders took place".

The look on BK's face towards his Dad was one of 'if looks could kill' IMO.