4 Univ of Idaho Students Murdered, Bryan Kohberger Arrested, Moscow, Nov 2022 #106

[MassGuy]

Howard Blum has dropped another episode on this case. And, from what I hear, he implies BK was in touch via email with Dr. Ramsland -- both before and after the murders. I do not have article access. Has anyone seen this, have a feel for what he is saying?? TIA

Summary:

Bryan Kohberger, accused of murdering four University of Idaho students, allegedly maintained contact with his forensic psychology professor, Katherine Ramsland, before and after the killings. Ramsland, a prominent author and true-crime expert, allegedly offered guidance to Kohberger’s family after his arrest and has been involved in their defense strategy. The evidence suggests Kohberger sought to prove his abilities to Ramsland, driven by a twisted erotomania.

Definition:

"Erotomania is a rare mental health condition that happens when someone is fixated on the idea that another person is intensely in love with them. The other person may be a celebrity, wealthy, or of a high social position."

 

[Arkay]

Someone should compile a list of Judge Hippler's best witticisms and one-liners. This is my absolute new favorite, wrestling the top spot away from "It's not a bad act to buy things on Amazon". That is a book that I would buy. JMO

A brilliant idea, @SteveP!

Should it be titled The Weight of All the Planets, or something else? There’s so much from which to choose.

Judge Hippler is phenomenal at dropping these bon mots in a way that clarifies his point, so that even laypeople can understand the gist of the ruling. To me it indicates a very agile, learned and experienced mind.

IMO

 

[INfisherman]

Can you imagine if he was emailing her before and after the murders?! I'm with you, this is dubious stuff at the moment.

I wonder if they had more than a professor/student relationship at some point & BK mistook a fling for something more serious or if it was just something from afar on BK’s behalf? I find it odd she is allegedly helping his defense, if even close to being true.

JMO

ETA clarity - if a fling occurred (not saying it did) & ended abruptly, this could be the catalyst for the issue towards women. I reiterate, it’s total speculation & JMO.

 

[INfisherman]

A brilliant idea, @SteveP!

Should it be titled The Weight of All the Planets, or something else? There’s so much from which to choose.

Judge Hippler is phenomenal at dropping these bon mots in a way that clarifies his point, so that even laypeople can understand the gist of the ruling. To me it indicates a very agile, learned and experienced mind.

IMO

"The Weight Of All Planets: It’s Not A Bad Act To Buy Things On Amazon (Every Day & Twice On Sunday)"

Book cover photo:

 

[MeadowMuffin]

"The Weight Of All Planets: It’s Not A Bad Act To Buy Something On Amazon (Every Day & Twice On Sunday)"

Book cover photo:
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You win the interwebs tonight!

 

[katydid23]

A brilliant idea, @SteveP!

Should it be titled The Weight of All the Planets, or something else? There’s so much from which to choose.

Judge Hippler is phenomenal at dropping these bon mots in a way that clarifies his point, so that even laypeople can understand the gist of the ruling. To me it indicates a very agile, learned and experienced mind.

IMO

I think Judge H is going to be so awesome managing the trial and explaining things to the jury.

And I don't see him treating the jurors like yo-yos, bouncing them in and out and making them wait in the jury room for hours on end. He seems like the kind of judge that will hold both sides accountable---get your witnesses here ready to go or we're moving on. I hate the lax sloppy was some trials are run, and then the jurors get mistreated. IMO

This Judge takes the reins. I love him.

 

[NuttMegg]

Dbm

 

[Warwick7]

Can you imagine if he was emailing her before and after the murders?! I'm with you, this is dubious stuff at the moment.

Would he really be THAT stupid?

 

[Chloegirl]

I wonder if they had more than a professor/student relationship at some point & BK mistook a fling for something more serious or if it was just something from afar on BK’s behalf? I find it odd she is allegedly helping his defense, if even close to being true.

JMO

ETA clarity - if a fling occurred (not saying it did) & ended abruptly, this could be the catalyst for the issue towards women. I reiterate, it’s total speculation & JMO.

72 vs. 30 Now you know those numbers don't make sense. 40+ year age difference.

If that occurred, everything was all in his head. JMOO

 

[MassGuy]

Would he really be THAT stupid?

He likely returned to the scene in order to enjoy the fruits of his labor, so him emailing his professor after the fact would jibe with that.

I tend to think we'd know about this if it happened, so we'll see.

 

[realanastasia]

The judge is calling out AT’s and BK’s B.S. about how unfair it is that they have soooooo much information to review, reminding the reader that B.K.’s “lead counsel insisted that she be allowed to take on a second high-profile capital case despite the voluminous discovery in this case. Further, at oral argument, lead counsel indicated that her practice is to personally review all the discovery herself, rather than rely on associates and staff to review materials to cut through the less relevant information and point to what materials need review by lead counsel. These actions are not indicative of an overburdened defense team. In fact, it is evident Defendant has been able to capably navigate the discovery given his more than robust motion practice, the scope and breadth of the experts retained and the disclosures filed.”

 

[INfisherman]

72 vs. 30 Now you know those numbers don't make sense. 40+ year age difference.

If that occurred, everything was all in his head. JMOO

Neither does murdering 4 coeds across the country but it happened. I was just kind of thinking out loud - I found the claim of assistance with his defense an odd move for someone who was teaching future LE related employees (criminology students). One would think she’d be more inclined to catch criminals versus help them, if the claims are even true from the get go.

MOO

ETA added the claim of

 

[Warwick7]

It sounds like no doors to the bedrooms were shut. Like the slider, he used the same technique with the bedroom doors, he didn't want to touch anything when he left. What SG said, altho paraphrased.

46:40 to 47:12

 

[INfisherman]

Can you imagine if he was emailing her before and after the murders?! I'm with you, this is dubious stuff at the moment.

Wonder if that’s who ended up with the selfie?

MOO

 

[Warwick7]

Wonder if that’s who ended up with the selfie?

MOO

It does sound like someone had seen it or it was sent to someone. M00

SG is asked about that selfie. He goes on a 2-3 minute explanation about other students were documenting BK's bullying of women. They documented when and where each incident happened. He then says "...that's how I found out about the selfie."

 

[Warwick7]

KG as we now know was punched multiple times. SG said there was other things that happened to her but he wants it brought out at trial.

Other things??!!

He said she likely died from these than the stab wounds.

M00 if he hadn't stabbed her would they known who was killed first. After listening to him tonight I thought about the knife attack. You can actually map how blood travels from victim to victim. Victim 1 (MM) will not have other blood on or in them, as they are the first. Victim 2 (KG) will have trace blood from victim 1 on them.
Hmmm...

 

[wendy44]

I do believe Ramsland contacted BK's parents after he was arrested--I think if she hadn't, she would have publicly denied it at the very least. What her motivations were, I have no idea. But I believe what Blum wrote in his book is true.
JMO

 

[wendy44]

Updated list on motions:

State's Motions
Demonstrative Evidence--GRANTED
AT&T TARs--GRANTED (qualified regarding very brief voir dire outside presence of jury)
404(b) Traffic Stop--GRANTED (with noted redactions)
Alibi--DENIED (premature at this time)
Improper Death Penalty Comments--DENIED as unnecessary
Alternative Perpetrator--RESERVED (proof by 14 May)
Self-Authentication--RESERVED
Immediate Family Members in Court--GRANTED (family of victims) RESERVED (family of defendant)
Neuropsychological and Psychiatric--GRANTED in part, RESERVED in part
Text Messages--GRANTED in part, RESERVED in part
911 Call--GRANTED in part, DENIED in part, RESERVED in part

Defendant's Motions
Use of Terms Psychopath and Sociopath--GRANTED
Inflammatory Evidence--DENIED
Use of Term Murder--DENIED as unnecessary
Witness ID by Bushy Eyebrows--DENIED
Unnoticed 404(b) Evidence--DENIED
Amazon Click Activity--DENIED
Make and Model of Vehicle--DENIED
Statistical Analysis--DENIED
Vague and Undisclosed Expert Testimony--DENIED
Strike Death Penalty Based on ASD--DENIED
Strike Death Penalty and Adopt Other Necessary Procedures--DENIED
1RN and Use of Touch/Contact DNA--GRANTED in part/DENIED in part
Conditions as Aggravator--GRANTED in part/DENIED in part
Inconclusive Data--DENIED as moot/GRANTED as applied to question asked before Grand Jury

Both State and Defense made motions regarding IGG Evidence, but for different reasons. Motions were GRANTED.

 

[Warwick7]

Hippler sighted a ton of cases that support his order of denial. Bam!!

 

[crhedBngr]

I wonder if they had more than a professor/student relationship at some point & BK mistook a fling for something more serious or if it was just something from afar on BK’s behalf? I find it odd she is allegedly helping his defense, if even close to being true.

JMO

ETA clarity - if a fling occurred (not saying it did) & ended abruptly, this could be the catalyst for the issue towards women. I reiterate, it’s total speculation & JMO.

RBBM

One wonders . . .

JMVHO.