4 Univ of Idaho Students Murdered, Bryan Kohberger Arrested, Moscow, Nov 2022 #108
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IANAL, but it could take a while.
It took two months for Judge Hippler to rule on AT’s motion to strike the DP due to ASD. If all the back and forth takes just as long for AT’s motion to continue, Hippler may not rule until July 20!
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(Edited to change June 20 to July 20. Thanks, SteveP!)
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If it takes the judge two months to rule on this, that will put us at around the third week of July, about a week before juror selection is scheduled to begin. If that is the case, I see no way that the trial will not be delayed. I fear we may hit the three year mark before this trial begins. JMO
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Thanks, but I’m disappointed The Lawyer You Know never followed up his video about Sy Ray’s “affidavit” after Hippler called out Ray in court. TLYK’s commenters to this day think the video proves the State is corrupt:
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Could Hippler rule on this without a hearing and without needing a response from the state? The state will definately object Imo but I don't really think their grounds for objection will play a big part in Hippler's decision, unless he's wavering. I think he may deny the motion largely based on lack of good cause. Jmo
I hope it happens quickly and he sets a hearing within two weeks, with strict time.limits for the state objection and defense reply. Imo the state may already have written up an objection and we may see it listed early next week. Jmo
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The longest delay was Hippler’s, which took a month after he received AT’s response to the state’s response to her original motion.
IMO Hippler won’t take this long, and he’ll pressure both sides to NOT dawdle in their responses to one another. I say we see a ruling in three weeks or so, no later than Friday, June 13.
A girl’s gotta dream.
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Ugh, more time to look for ancestors who gave him the super killer /crazy genes which “made him, the mass murderer he is, not his fault but that of his DNA which made him do it! He doesn’t deserve the DP because he is a product of his genes for which he had no control. He didn’t choose this, his biology chose it for him. Farce - MO Sarcasm
Makes me think of The Jerky Boys “ who can I sue”
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IMO Judge Hippler can take care of the whole “poisoning the jury pool” issue by disqualifying potential jurors who saw the Dateline episode or read an Idaho 4 book.
A trial delay will simply add to the list of reasons to disqualify jurors as more shows are produced and books are written.
A trial delay will simply add to the list of reasons to disqualify jurors as more shows are produced and books are written.
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I'd like for someone to ask adult BK if he can tie his shoelaces. I'm certain he can. But I'm curious whether he'd launch into a discourse on prosocial convention which he shuns on some sort of haughty principle. Not unlike crosswalks.
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That leaked material appears to have been “carefully curated to promote a narrative of guilt,” Kohberger’s team wrote in the filing. It was also “taken out of context” and would not be admissible at trial “because it lacks reliability,” the lawyers wrote.
www.nydailynews.com
Bryan Kohberger lawyers request trial delay due to ‘prejudicial’ Dateline special
Bryan Kohberger’s attorneys have asked a judge to delay his murder trial, citing “highly inflammatory publicity” from a recent “Dateline” special.
www.nydailynews.com
I don't think so, not with this motion. Because it's asking for a continuance, and the case is now much closer to trial, I think if he's going to set a hearing he'll issue a notice very soon, maybe even by Friday/early next week. When/if he does, I think he'll include an order giving the state 5 or so working days to object ( if they haven't filed already) and the same for the defense. Jmo. Maybe if a hearing happens it will be the week after next, towards the end. At least I hope so! ICBW and he just grants a continuance but I doubt it massively atm.
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Let's say an agent of the State (say, a LEO who knows a LEO told his wife who told two friends who told two friends) is responsible for the leak, and the judge finds the State tangentially responsible, I don't see where he's going to remedy that by moving the trial date. More time doesn't diffuse broad public interest and it does great new opportunities for leaks. New books, new episodes, endless podcasts.
I should think the proper remedy, in the extreme, would be to strike those experts, if that's fun where the leaks came.
Ad to the rest of her tired motion, he's hard it all already. There is no evidence the State has withheld anything, she has more discovery than she can digest, says her, and unless need going to grant her infinity and beyond no amount of time would yield what she claims she is due. A long trail through the Kohberger catacombs to find a diagnosis she can exploit (while simultaneously avoiding a real evaluation of the Currentberger).
I can't believe she is willing to sign her name to a motion that says she needs more time because there might be something in Nefertiti's tomb to excuse BK from the DP and that she first needs to find that double helix amulet before she can determine which experts to call. Her circular logic defies.... logic.
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Dateline isn't overly prejudicial if jurors have never seen it.
Because AT has found no defense for BK in two generations does not give her license to unbury four.
The judge has remedies, and continuance needn't be one of them.
I look forward to Judge Hippler's footnotes most of all, to see what he really thinks of AT's delay tactics.
I have lots of free time tomorrow so... if he could....
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I should think the proper remedy, in the extreme, would be to strike those experts, if that's fun where the leaks came.
Ad to the rest of her tired motion, he's hard it all already. There is no evidence the State has withheld anything, she has more discovery than she can digest, says her, and unless need going to grant her infinity and beyond no amount of time would yield what she claims she is due. A long trail through the Kohberger catacombs to find a diagnosis she can exploit (while simultaneously avoiding a real evaluation of the Currentberger).
I can't believe she is willing to sign her name to a motion that says she needs more time because there might be something in Nefertiti's tomb to excuse BK from the DP and that she first needs to find that double helix amulet before she can determine which experts to call. Her circular logic defies.... logic.
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Dateline isn't overly prejudicial if jurors have never seen it.
Because AT has found no defense for BK in two generations does not give her license to unbury four.
The judge has remedies, and continuance needn't be one of them.
I look forward to Judge Hippler's footnotes most of all, to see what he really thinks of AT's delay tactics.
I have lots of free time tomorrow so... if he could....
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AT herself mentioned how Dateline isn't a court of law, it's not vetted for court purposes to the truth, certainly not subjected to the rigors of cross examination, but then, why is she so scared of it? It's just Dateline's version....
She's not scared, she's just an opportunist, taking advantage of that negative publicity, as we'd expect any decent defense attorney to do, but she overstated the damage. Voir dire should weed out the Dateliners.
Risk: unfair prejudice, neutralized.
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This whole Dateline and James Patterson book thing is just more BS, to attempt to delay the trial as long as she possibly can, before AT finally has to go to trial with the same lack of a defense that she could have gone to trial with long before now, and the same lack of a defense she will still have if the case goes to trial six months from now. Ada County, Idaho, has an adult population of about 557,000. I am pretty sure it will not be terribly difficult to find 20 qualified people who have never watched Dateline, much less seen and been influenced by the Kohberger episode, and who have never read a James Patterson book. JMO
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I only know one individual in my everyday life who follows this case. Some people have heard of it on a very basic level, they may have seen a couple of photos of BK. Most know it as the kids who were murdered at college. That’s as far as they go. Voir dire should cover this.
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I just can't believe JP already has a book coming out..I mean, I would want to wait on putting out a book until after the trial..you would have so much more information for the book! right????
@Megnut re bolded I added to your post.
Shoelaces. In Pennsylvania?
No such thing where he came from.
BK never had an opportunity to learn.
Nor did his ancestors or any other people there since Dec. 12, 1787, when PA. was granted statehood.
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Hmm. "carefully curated to promote a narrative of guilt". I would be more inclined to think "carefully curated to promote a narrative of creepiness." If people equate "creepy" with "guilt", they will likely get the full "creepy" just from the circling of the car around the house at trial. JMO, though.That leaked material appears to have been “carefully curated to promote a narrative of guilt,” Kohberger’s team wrote in the filing. It was also “taken out of context” and would not be admissible at trial “because it lacks reliability,” the lawyers wrote.
Bryan Kohberger lawyers request trial delay due to ‘prejudicial’ Dateline special
Bryan Kohberger’s attorneys have asked a judge to delay his murder trial, citing “highly inflammatory publicity” from a recent “Dateline” special.
I want so much for there to have been a camera that got an image of something identifiable on the car.
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I stopped reading his books about the same time that he started farming them out.
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