4 Univ of Idaho Students Murdered, Bryan Kohberger Arrested, Moscow, Nov 2022 #96

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Not Ripe.
jepop said:
Yeah, the Daily M report is misleading and uninformed, full of irrelevant innuendo and short on facts.IMO.

Dr Wolf may appear on November 7th as defense witness in support of D's motion to strike DP on grounds of vagueness in balancing mitigating and aggravating factors. Imo it's not certain judge has over-ruled state's objection yet; if court rules in favour of state after hearing argument on Nov 7th, Dr Wolf may not end up testifying in support of that motion (although approval to appear by zoom, If she does end up testifying, has been granted).

DailyM goes on ad nauseum re Dr Wolf's role in OJ's defense at guilt trial, and then misleadingly via omission conflates that with BK's guilt phase trial, as if Dr Wolf has also been hired by Defense for comparable reasons in this case. Such a load imo and a good eg of a new misleading and sensationalised media report that may subliminally affect the impartiality of the Ada County jury pool. Moo.

State's objection to Wolfe giving testimony on Nov 7th


Link to Idaho COI page

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@jepop Thx :) for linking ID's Objection to Expert Testimony from Dr. Wolf and pointing out inaccurate news coverage.

Daily Mail. Sigh.

From ID's motion:
"...Defendant’s method of execution claim is not ripe for judicial determination...."

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al66pine said:
Not Ripe.

@jepop Thx :) for linking ID's Objection to Expert Testimony from Dr. Wolf and pointing out inaccurate news coverage.

Daily Mail. Sigh.

From ID's motion:
"...Defendant’s method of execution claim is not ripe for judicial determination...."

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I'm old enough to remember the trial but did not immediately recognize her name. So I looked up the transcripts.

It looks like a large part of her contribution was focusing on the mistakes that the medical examiner's office made that in her opinion resulted in a incorrect time of death. Which helped the Defense tighten the window in which OJ could have committed the crimes.

I'm not saying that Kohlberger's defense team is going to rinse and repeat and use her in a similar way. But the parallels are interesting...

Two summers ago BK's defense (through court filings) was clearly suspicious of a car LE initially identified (white Sentra if I recall correctly). Which was caught on camera much earlier in the night. They further implied (MOO) that LE did not follow up on that vehicle and it's owner. Instead choosing to focus on Kohlberger (the perfect patsy) due to mounting pressure to solve the case. I think this is also the basis for their interest in IGG and where it came in on the investigatory timeline. MOO.

So this is a very very very interesting hire.

That's my opinion of the Defenses's actions of course. I do not believe their premise, however, I think BK did it. JMO

All MOO
 
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Dr W

Disclosure of expert witness:

- Dr. Wolf is expected to testify to the findings outlined in her affidavit filed with the court on September 5, 2024 in the Defendant’s Motion to Strike State’s Notice of Intent to Seek Death Penalty on Grounds of Vagueness in Balancing Aggravators and Mitigators.- Dr. Wolf’s Curriculum Vitae is attached hereto.

Dr W affidavit:

I have been asked to address the subject of conscious pain and suffering experienced by individuals who are executed by firing squads.

see page 141

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Nila Aella said:
Dr W

Disclosure of expert witness:

- Dr. Wolf is expected to testify to the findings outlined in her affidavit filed with the court on September 5, 2024 in the Defendant’s Motion to Strike State’s Notice of Intent to Seek Death Penalty on Grounds of Vagueness in Balancing Aggravators and Mitigators.- Dr. Wolf’s Curriculum Vitae is attached hereto.

Dr W affidavit:

I have been asked to address the subject of conscious pain and suffering experienced by individuals who are executed by firing squads.

see page 141

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I'm thinking of the conscious pain and suffering of four college students woken in the middle of the night by someone stabbing them to death.

That makes me care less about the pain and suffering of the person who (allegedly) chose to do that to them. And I say that as someone who believes in humane treatment of prisoners.

MOO

MOO
 
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schooling said:
I'm old enough to remember the trial but did not immediately recognize her name. So I looked up the transcripts.

It looks like a large part of her contribution was focusing on the mistakes that the medical examiner's office made that in her opinion resulted in a incorrect time of death. Which helped the Defense tighten the window in which OJ could have committed the crimes.

I'm not saying that Kohlberger's defense team is going to rinse and repeat and use her in a similar way. But the parallels are interesting...

Two summers ago BK's defense (through court filings) was clearly suspicious of a car LE initially identified (white Sentra if I recall correctly). Which was caught on camera much earlier in the night. They further implied (MOO) that LE did not follow up on that vehicle and it's owner. Instead choosing to focus on Kohlberger (the perfect patsy) due to mounting pressure to solve the case. I think this is also the basis for their interest in IGG and where it came in on the investigatory timeline. MOO.

So this is a very very very interesting hire.

That's my opinion of the Defenses's actions of course. I do not believe their premise, however, I think BK did it. JMO

All MOO
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She,'s been hired to speak to a strike death penalty motion filed by defense. This is a pre trial matter about a potential sentencing trial matter, nothing to do with the pending guilt phase of BK',s trial.

Jmo looks like Dr Wolf may have extended her area of expertise into ethical/legal area do with DP. OJ trial was a very long time ago but seems the notoriety never dies. Dr Wolf might have issues similar to an actor who has been type cast. Idk but not predicting defense's guilt phase trial witnesses based on daily m innuendo and slanted reporting style. Daily M conflating and misrepresenting the existing hire imo.
 
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State of Idaho v. Bryan C. Kohberger​

Ada County CR01-24-31665 / Latah County CR29-22-2805
 
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dbm
 
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PinkParis2052 said:
oh okay. I see what you are say. Thank you.
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All good. Thanks for responding.

I was just having a quick scroll through the latest defense responses to the states objections re striking DP (mouthful or what ...jeeze) and actually decided to read Hippler's order on zoom participation by the D's witnesses.

Turns out order does specify the permission is conditional upon the court allowing their testimony. My guess now is Hippler will make that decision between now and Nov 7th rather than during the hearing itself. Jmo


Quoted from page 1 of 2.
"...shall be allowed to participate remotely at the motions hearing...if permitted by the court to provide testimony."

 
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jepop said:
She,'s been hired to speak to a strike death penalty motion filed by defense. This is a pre trial matter about a potential sentencing trial matter, nothing to do with the pending guilt phase of BK',s trial.

Jmo looks like Dr Wolf may have extended her area of expertise into ethical/legal area do with DP. OJ trial was a very long time ago but seems the notoriety never dies. Dr Wolf might have issues similar to an actor who has been type cast. Idk but not predicting defense's guilt phase trial witnesses based on daily m innuendo and slanted reporting style. Daily M conflating and misrepresenting the existing hire imo.
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Just went out to find more sources after reading your post. I stand corrected.

I rarely ever visit any Murdoch or formerly Murdoch owned news sources. This is a great reminder of why.

Thanks for pointing me in the right direction!
 
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arielilane said:
As University of Idaho student murders suspect Bryan Kohberger gets closer to a November hearing that his defense hopes will take the death penalty off the table before he goes to trial, his defense team is burying prosecutors in a barrage of court documents.

Bryan Kohberger defense eyes death penalty fine print in Idaho student murders
October 31, 2024
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Here is an example of death penalty cases ALWAYS filed in cases to get the DP thrown out as unconstitutional. These are some examples from the Ohio Wagner murder indictments and court motions. All DP attorneys try to get the DP thrown out. Normal.

DEFENDANT'S MOTION TO COMPEL DISCLOSURE OF AGGRAVATING FACTORS AND INFORMATION RELATING TO MITIGATING FACTORS FILED

DEFENDANT'S MOTION TO DISMISS CAPITAL COMPONENTS OF THIS CASE DUE TO CONSTITUTIONAL AND INTERNATIONAL LAW VIOLATIONS FILED

DEFENDANT'S MOTION TO PROHIBIT ANY REFERENCES TO THE FIRST PHASE OF THESE PROCEEDINGS AS THE "GUILT PHASE" FILED

DEFENDANT'S MOTION FOR INDIVIDUAL SEQUESTERED VOIR DIRE ON DEATH PENALTY, PUBLICITY, AND OTHER ISSUES FILED

DEFENDANT'S MOTION TO HAVE THE COURT FOLLOW THE O.R.C. 2945.25(C) STANDARD FOR "DEATH-QUALIFICATION" OF VENIREPERSONS FILED

DEFENDANT'S MOTION TO EXCLUDE VENIREPERSONS WHO CANNOT FAIRLY CONSIDER MITIGATING EVIDENCE AND/OR WHO WOULD AUTOMATICALLY VOTE FOR DEATH UPON A FINDING OF GUILT IN THE CULPABILITY PHASE FILED

DEFENDANT'S MOTION IN LIMINE TO EXCLUDE PHOTOGRAPHS OF THE DECEASED FILED

DEFENDANT'S MOTION IN LIMINE TO PROHIBIT VICTIM-IMPACT EVIDENCE DURING THE TRIAL AND, IF NECESSARY, THE MITIGATION PHASE FILED

DEFENDANT'S MOTION TO PROHIBIT REFERENCES TO THE JURY THAT A DEATH PENALTY VERDICT IS ONLY A RECOMMENDATION TO THE TRIAL JUDGE FILED

DEFENDANT'S MOTION TO INSTRUCT THE JURY TO CONSIDER MERCY IN ITS MITIGATION PHASE DELIBERATIONS, AND TO PROHIBIT THE PROSECUTOR FROM ARGUING THAT THE JURY SHOULD NOT CONSIDER MERCY FILED

MOTION TO DISMISS CAPITAL COMPONENTS OF THIS CASE DUE TO CONSTITUTIONAL AND INTERNATIONAL LAW VIOLATIONS FILED

MOTION TO EXCUSE JURORS WHO AUTOMATICALLY VOTE FOR DEATH OR WILL NOT CONSIDER MITIGATING FACTORS FILED
 
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Is the Door Dash driver going to be called to the witness stand?
 
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willenollie said:
Is the Door Dash driver going to be called to the witness stand?
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You'd have to imaging that the defense would want them up there. Especially if they saw nothing. It's not a strong challenge to the timeline considering the amount of time it takes to deliver food....but its a challenge no less. MOO
 
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