Abby & Libby - The Delphi Murders - Richard Allen Arrested - #208

[photographer4]

i wonder if he will take the stand to tell us if he really did it. i suspect he needs to.

I doubt very much that RA will take the stand. Why would the D risk putting him up there and under that kind of intense scrutiny and stress? I wouldn't if I were his counsel. Way too many things that could go very wrong there imo.

 

[Arkay]

odds on the defence hinting darkly about the significance of the sisters hair?

I’ll take the “over.” 12?

 

[MassGuy]

Do people in solitary get to ring their family whenever they want?

I think the tablet was a nice touch too.

 

[StarryStarryNight]

Up to platform one it seems and no further.

But as for him being BG...

I don’t buy this piecemeal approach to looking at evidence.
The dots are not hard to connect.

 

[INfisherman]

As he said in one of his confessions, when he saw the van, he knew his plans were ruined. After that he never really mentions the girls. He just said they went across the creek and he "cut the necks" because he didn't want witnesses. He completely depersonalized the girls, didn't even think of them as human, as most sociopaths, killers and pederasts do. The girls exist only for his sexual gratification, their lives were meaningless to him. They still are meaningless to him. He's not sorry for killing them. He doesn't care, isn't capable of caring.

BTW, I hope we soon get to hear the recordings of his voice on the phone calls or any recording of it at all.

BBM

More potential minimization?

JMO

 

[tlcya]

Do people in solitary get to ring their family whenever they want?

and have access to a tablet in their cell?

 

[fred&edna]

Someone was on the bridge, but it has yet to be proven it was Richard Allen.

We are half way though the trial and soon will reach the end.

JMO MOO JMT

Do you feel that you haven't read/heard enough circumstantial evidence to prove his guilt? Or do you think you'd need direct evidence to find him guilty? (Just asking since circumstantial cases are difficult).

 

[Rosegold68]

Do people in solitary get to ring their family whenever they want?

Yes
If they have enough credit on account…. Why wouldn’t they?
Take everything from them and they become a bigger danger for staff to manage….thats when we get assaulted ourselves.

 

[Rosegold68]

It is *extremely rare* for someone to be playing with or eating their own feces as part of a protest. They might save some and throw it at guards but they're not rolling around in it.

Well I’ve seen it a fair few times…how many for you?

 

[sunshineray]

So like, how many of y’all who think he is absolutely guilty would (after this case) volunteer that you were somewhere on the same day and time a murdered occurred?

I would, If I saw something of note, I could be a witness to something important that LE may need in investigating. I'd hope others would do the same if it was my loved one murdered, or anyone's. It would be the right thing to do. MO

 

[Deleted member 296739]

Do people in solitary get to ring their family whenever they want

I think the tablet was a nice touch too.

and have access to a tablet in their cell?

Depends on the facility how incarcerated communications are handled- tablets are often standard issue vs kiosks and phones for communications- JPay tablets are very common

There are a few different main vendors and it can be very very expensive- in my experience-

https://www.jpay.com/

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[MiniMoo]

Why is it you would bc you are innocent and would feel awful but he wouldn’t for the same reason?

And not one person has placed him there whether by description or whatever.

Not one!

All witnesses that day have described all sorts, but not him and as for him he described three girls that were nothing like the four that saw a creepy man.

He saw an older female with long black hair that looked like a babysitter with two younger ones.

Someone was there that day and seen by those witnesses, but it wasn't Richard Allen.

JMO MOO JMT

 

[INfisherman]

I totally disagree. He seemed completely chaotic and detached from reality in those phone calls. A crazy man saying he is well means nothing. Did you not the multitudes of statements he made about losing his mind and saying he doesn’t understand?

IIRC, KA also stated "we’re all losing our minds too" or something to that effect (paraphrasing). So crazy talking to crazy could be implied, no?

JMO

 

[Betty P]

This proves RA is perfectly sane like many of us questioning these lawyers:
Delphi Murders trial: Day 12 live blog

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Oh, well. I'm sorry, I don't feel any pity for him. He's a cold blooded killer of young innocent girls.

 

[MiniMoo]

I don’t buy this piecemeal approach to looking at evidence.
The dots are not hard to connect.

The dots aren't hard to connect. True.

Next up is the Defense and I can't wait to see their approach.

JMO MOO JMT

 

[Mitch1]

And not one person has placed him there whether by description or whatever.

Not one!

All witnesses that day have described all sorts, but not him and as for him he described three girls that were nothing like the four that saw a creepy man.

He saw an older female with long black hair that looked like a babysitter with two younger ones.

Someone was there that day and seen by those witnesses, but it wasn't Richard Allen.

JMO MOO JMT

Yep, that’s why I keep saying-no one even described the person they saw as short. RA is 5’4 and if they saw him I have zero doubt they would have remembered that much

 

[Kateangelilli]

I think the tablet was a nice touch too.

Depending on the prison/county yes. Many states have begun to implement tablets for prisoners use. It’s very common these days.

 

[MassGuy]

Depending on the prison/county yes. Many states have begun to implement tablets for prisoners use. It’s very common these days.

Yes, but I wouldn’t expect them in “solitary confinement.”

 

[FrostedGlass]

RA doesn't even remember if his coat was black or blue that day. How are the witnesses supposed to be spot on?

We would know the answer to that if we had been allowed to hear the trial for ourselves.
MOO
As it is, we have several versions of what he said regarding his black jacket; what we haven't seen so far is him saying he was wearing his blue jacket. I posted the links earlier when we talked about it before.

 

[tlcya]

I think some of us who haven't been to prison, me included, pictured solitary confinement as being a small concrete room alone in the dark for days or weeks at a time with no other human contact save a surly guard bringing food once or twice a day.

But it sounds as if the solitary RA was subjected to actually was more of a protective custodial type of solitary. He had his tablet, he had regular phone calls with loved ones (when they would agree to take them), he had his "companion prisoners" watching him to ensure he didn't harm himself, and he had Dr. Wala. Not quite what I was thinking when defense described him as being in solitary and his days being devoid of human contact.