GUILTY Australia - 3 dead after eating wild mushrooms, Leongatha, Victoria, Aug 2023 *Arrest* #19

[SouthAussie]

I think Simon and his relatives are about to get under kick in the guts so to speak if they try to get what they deserve as victims of crimes because Evil Erin's lawyers have first grab on getting the money from the sale of her house.
So if I read the article below correctly, no matter how much they demonstrate to the judge next week how badly Evil Erin's crimes have affected them, there probably won't be much money left after the lawyers have taken their huge whack out of the home's sale.
That to me is a disgraceful situation.

When Criminal Law Collides with Property Law: Erin Patterson, Legal Fees, and the DPP’s Restraining Order - Hayton Kosky

The intersection of criminal prosecutions and private property rights often creates legal complexity, particularly where property is both the subject of private contractual dealings and potential criminal forfeiture. The recent case of Erin Patterson—convicted in July 2025 in relation to the...

haytonkosky.com.au

Though the victims of crime fund is a Victorian government fund meant to help certain victims. It is a whole separate thing from Erin's assets.

It is funded by a levy on criminal penalties (fines and court imposed penalties) which is collected by the courts. It is essentially a big pool of money collected from many people who have to pay a levy that is included in their fines.

Financial assistance and compensation for victims of crime

If you have been affected by a crime, you may be able to apply for financial assistance or seek compensation from the offender.

www.victimsofcrime.vic.gov.au

 

[MaxDecimus13]

I think she only went out that afternoon to dispose of whatever it was. The sole reason. And I think she invented the story of disposing of tissues to preempt a question over what she had in her hand before but not after going in the restroom. It seems the prosecution didn't notice it. She could easily have said the toilet was occupied, no reason to say she disposed of anything. IMO



"Her son said his mother was "quite persistent" about attending his flying lesson, and Ms Patterson agreed with that, the judge says."

Judge recaps Erin Patterson's evidence as triple-murder trial nears end — as it happened

Justice Christopher Beale is continuing his instructions to the jury in Erin Patterson's murder trial. Ms Patterson is accused of killing three relatives by serving them a beef Wellington containing death cap mushrooms. Follow the proceedings as it happened.

www.abc.net.au

Interesting take. I always assumed her response was a reaction to them having found CCTV.

Had there been no CCTV, there'd have been no trip to the service station and no bush poo.

 

[MrJ]

Does anybody know whether the hearings tomorrow and the day after will be open to the media or not?

 

[MaxDecimus13]

I wonder if this will be seriously put forward by the defence as a reason to give her a lesser sentence:

Erin says she struggled with self-esteem​

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By Joseph Dunstan and Melissa Brown​

Erin tells the court she struggled with parts of herself.

"I had been fighting a never-ending battle of low self-esteem most of my adult life. And the further inroads I made into being middle aged, the less I felt good about myself, I suppose. Put on my weight, could handle exercise less," she says.

She agrees her low self-esteem was mainly about her weight and she planned to have gastric bypass surgery.

Erin Patterson tells murder trial about relationship with estranged husband — as it happened

Erin Patterson's triple murder trial continues in Morwell. She's charged with three counts of murder over the deaths of three relatives who died from after eating a meal she prepared containing death cap mushrooms.

www.abc.net.au

If only Ozempic had been around at the time I wouldn't have felt the need to murder people your honour.

 

[SouthAussie]

Does anybody know whether the hearings tomorrow and the day after will be open to the media or not?

I think so. Unless there is an explicit reason that the judge would hold the hearing in closed court.


A Victim Impact Statement may be read out at a sentencing hearing, either by the victim or by the prosecution on the victim's behalf.

Most sentencing hearings are open to the public.

County Court of Victoria

Victoria's principal trial court hears and determines criminal, common law and commercial matters.

www.countycourt.vic.gov.au

 

[Scooby-Doo]

Does anybody know whether the hearings tomorrow and the day after will be open to the media or not?

Justice Beale also lifted a court order, allowing media outlets to report on previously-suppressed details.

 

[Kemug]

If only Ozempic had been around at the time I wouldn't have felt the need to murder people your honour.

And didn't she also have "skin issues", poor dear?

 

[MaxDecimus13]

It’s difficult to 2nd guess most people, but in Erin’s case it’s almost impossible imo, as her mind’s workings are ‘different’. Who knows what she was carrying & disposed of.
Maybe it was Phone A but she swapped the case; the phone she was using next day in pink case may not have been phone A - only Erin knows for sure.

I do agree that she was on a mission with this Sunday outing & found a story of ‘pooing in the bush’ that backed up her ‘gastro’, as well as a need for a quick disposal of something in the WC at the servo.

I think it quite possible that she had excess DC powder to get rid of, also perhaps even the missing meat out of Simon’s Beef Wellington. Put it all in a little plastic container, then in the black doggy do-do bag, and into the female hygiene bin. Gone.

I wonder just how much DC toxin was found in the leftovers, because I think those leftovers were deliberately & strategically placed in the Woolworth paper bag in the bin, so they were easily located if she was asked about them.
I think she had a Plan for after the lunch:
Bin the Safe leftovers
Take all crockery, cutlery & cooking utensils to the dump immediately after
Also get rid of the boxes that things came in
Next day on way to flying lessons, get rid of the ‘left over dc powder’

Simon didn’t eat his BW, so she scraped out the poisonous filling & added to the dc powder to be dumped.

But things didn’t go according to Plan, as her quests went to hospital way earlier than expected - there was even a chance they may just die a home !

And she missed the fact that DC is highly toxic, so scraping the filing out didn’t eradicate chances of it being traceable in the ‘moisture’ lining the pastry shell.

JMO.

It can't have been Phone A, one of the more incriminating things that she did was switch her phone while the police were literally searching the house. They had phone records showing it was being used right up until literally that time.

One thing that needs considering is the fact that anything she disposed of could've easily been disposed at the dump on the day of the meal in one of the bin bags. This means it's either:

A) something she had forgotten
B) something she was very concerned about and felt needed separating
C) something completely innocent

I wouldn't discount C. This trip only became an issue because they had the CCTV. EP was trying to make out like she had bad diahorrea so invented a story for why she only went the toilets for a few seconds.

Initially, it seemed like a good chance to have disposed of some evidence but this was before we knew of the visit to the dump on the 29th.

 

[Two SCents]

I think she only went out that afternoon to dispose of whatever it was. The sole reason. And I think she invented the story of disposing of tissues to preempt a question over what she had in her hand before but not after going in the restroom. It seems the prosecution didn't notice it. She could easily have said the toilet was occupied, no reason to say she disposed of anything. IMO



"Her son said his mother was "quite persistent" about attending his flying lesson, and Ms Patterson agreed with that, the judge says."

Judge recaps Erin Patterson's evidence as triple-murder trial nears end — as it happened

Justice Christopher Beale is continuing his instructions to the jury in Erin Patterson's murder trial. Ms Patterson is accused of killing three relatives by serving them a beef Wellington containing death cap mushrooms. Follow the proceedings as it happened.

www.abc.net.au

The reason she told the bush poo story was to convince the jury she also had diarrhea as she had eaten a beef wellington containing death caps.

 

[Ellery84]

The biggest lie for me is that she loved Simon's parents.

Oh true. Very true.

 

[Tortoise]

The reason she told the bush poo story was to convince the jury she also had diarrhea as she had eaten a beef wellington containing death caps.

It's not really relevant to why she went out.

I would say she was more concerned with concocting a reason for disposing of something she had in her hand. It's a shame Dr Rogers didn't point out that she had an item in her unwashed hand (supposedly containing poo) and raised that hand right up to her face.

 

[Two SCents]

It's not really relevant to why she went out.

I would say she was more concerned with concocting a reason for disposing of something she had in her hand. It's a shame Dr Rogers didn't point out that she had an item in her unwashed hand (supposedly containing poo) and raised that hand right up to her face.

You don't believe her son?

 

[MaxDecimus13]

It's not really relevant to why she went out.

I would say she was more concerned with concocting a reason for disposing of something she had in her hand. It's a shame Dr Rogers didn't point out that she had an item in her unwashed hand (supposedly containing poo) and raised that hand right up to her face.

In reality, that thing in her hand could be almost anything. Knowing what we know, it is certainly grounds for speculation and I'm interested in the idea that she could have been acting in a paranoid way etc.

From a trial POV, I don't think there is anyway it could have been seen as incriminating to EP. She could have come up with a plausible explanation or even said she didn't remember.

I'm surprised nobody from here lives close enough to have done a reccy to see what the toilets are like, or is it a bit out of the way?

 

[Tortoise]

You don't believe her son?

Where did I say that?

Her son said she was most persistent in going out.

 

[MaxDecimus13]

I can't remember who first asked about the lies but:

Most damaging lie: the gastric-band

Most absurd lie: the bush poo

Most racist lie: the Asian grocer

Most concocted lie: how the DC mushrooms got in the mix

 

[Kemug]

And didn't she also have "skin issues", poor dear?

At least she no longer struggles to find babysitters.

 

[Monstradamus]

In reality, that thing in her hand could be almost anything. Knowing what we know, it is certainly grounds for speculation and I'm interested in the idea that she could have been acting in a paranoid way etc.

From a trial POV, I don't think there is anyway it could have been seen as incriminating to EP. She could have come up with a plausible explanation or even said she didn't remember.

I'm surprised nobody from here lives close enough to have done a reccy to see what the toilets are like, or is it a bit out of the way?

I hope one of the locals check it out.
It's about a 20 hour drive for me

 

[MaxDecimus13]

I hope one of the locals check it out.
It's about a 20 hour drive for me

A 20 hour flight and I wouldn't be there

 

[katydid23]

Yes, but an endocrinologist won’t be overseeing a breath test, will they?

If Erin poisoned Simon with different items every time, he would have had variable symptoms, but most ingested poisons will be GI irritants.

I wonder who else’s food Erin was messing with?

Her kid's food. She messed with her kid's food.

She admitted sneaking powdered mushrooms into their food. That really creeped me out since she was practicing how to poison future meals, by testing food on her kids.

If she had not been caught, what do we think might have happened, if one of her kids turned into typical teenagers that act out and have outbursts and growing pains? I think we have all seen how teens go through emotional growing pains and 'hate' us for awhile because we tell them they can't go to a college beer bash at 16.

How do we think Erin might have reacted if her kids did things she did not like? Would she have baked them a special meal?

 

[MrJ]

She admitted sneaking powdered mushrooms into their food. That really creeped me out since she was practicing how to poison future meals, by testing food on her kids.

This is why I don't care about the mitigating factors, a psychological report, any of that, because the mind of a poisoner will show intent to cause serious harm and death. It's clear this wasn't her first rodeo, this and the alleged attempts on Simon's life. IMO it's all about control for EP. It's a terrifying thought re: future poisonings, it's not out of the question. I think it's possible she loved her kids but at the same time she's quite a vengeful and obsessive person, so if they did act out and showed the usual teenage resentment of parents, who knows what she would've done. JMO