CANADA Canada - Jack, 4 & Lilly Sullivan, 6, Vulnerable, wandered from home 10am, Gairloch Rd, Landsdowne Station, Pictou County, NS, 2 May 2025 #3

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Pictou County District RCMP is asking for the public's assistance in locating six-year-old Lily Sullivan and four-year-old Jack Sullivan. They were last seen this morning, May 2, on Gairloch Rd. in #LansdownStation, #Pictou County.

Lily Sullivan has shoulder-length light brown hair with bangs. She might be wearing a pink sweater, pink pants, and pink boots.

Jack Sullivan has short blondish hair. He’s wearing blue dinosaur boots. No other clothing description is available.

We ask that people spread the word through social media respectfully.

Anyone with information on the whereabouts of Lily Sullivan and Jack Sullivan is asked to contact Pictou County District RCMP at 902-485-4333. To remain anonymous, call Nova Scotia Crime Stoppers, toll-free, at 1-800-222-TIPS (8477), submit a secure web tip at www.crimestoppers.ns.ca, or use the P3 Tips app.

File #: 2025-580096


Update, 1:10 p.m. Search efforts continue for Lily and Jack Sullivan in #PictouCounty. A vulnerable missing person alert was issued for Pictou County this morning to help find the two who were last seen at about 10 a.m. today, May 2, at a home on Gairloch Rd. before they wandered.


May 2, 2025
Landsdowne Station, Nova Scotia

UPDATE: The search for missing children Lily and Jack Sullivan is ongoing in Pictou County.

Since just after 10 a.m. this morning, May 2, a search has been underway for two children who are believed to have wandered from a home on Gairloch Rd. in Lansdowne Station, Pictou County.

There is a multi-agency response currently on the ground in Pictou County. It includes resources from ground search and rescue teams from around the province who are collaborating to ensure resources and teams are available on an ongoing basis. Other resources and teams include the Civil Air Search and Rescue Association (CASARA), Department of Natural Resources Air Services, and several RCMP units, including RCMP Police Dog Services, RCMP Remotely Piloted Aircraft Systems (drones) operators, and others. Additionally, the RCMP issued a vulnerable missing person alert for Pictou County.

Police and others involved in the search appreciate the ongoing community support across the province related to this missing person investigation. We ask, however, that the public avoid the search area to allow trained searchers to do their work. The child's family has been kept updated on the search efforts.

Anyone with information on the whereabouts of Lily and Jack Sullivan is asked to contact Pictou County District RCMP at 902-485-4333. To remain anonymous, call Nova Scotia Crime Stoppers, toll-free, at 1-800-222-TIPS (8477), submit a secure web tip at www.crimestoppers.ns.ca, or use the P3 Tips app.

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Pictou County District RCMP is asking for the public's assistance in locating six-year-old Lily Sullivan and four-year-old Jack Sullivan. They were last seen this morning, May 2, on Gairloch Rd. in Lansdown Station, Pictou County.

Lily Sullivan has shoulder-length light brown hair with bangs. She might be wearing a pink sweater, pink pants, and pink boots.

Jack Sullivan has short blondish hair. He's wearing blue dinosaur boots. No other clothing description is available.

We ask that people spread the word through social media respectfully.

Anyone with information on the whereabouts of Lily Sullivan and Jack Sullivan is asked to contact Pictou County District RCMP at 902-485-4333. To remain anonymous, call Nova Scotia Crime Stoppers, toll-free, at 1-800-222-TIPS (8477), submit a secure web tip at www.crimestoppers.ns.ca, or use the P3 Tips app.

Contact information

Strategic Communications and Media Relations
Nova Scotia RCMP
[email protected]

File number: 2025-580096


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Hey Everyone,
This thread is very active. Please remember, we do not post or discuss rumors. Rumors become facts within seconds, and then the whole case discussion gets messed up.
If you have any questions, you can send SillyBilly, MadMcGoo, or me (Tricia) a "direct message," formally called a private message. You can locate your direct messages by clicking the icon next to your user name in the upper right-hand corner.
Thank you,

Tricia
 
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I just wish we could get an official and clear answer regarding when was the last time both Lilly and Jack were at school.

The bus driver was interviewed by the Globe but the article is now paylocked. He reminisced about both the children and stated he dropped them off Tuesday after school. As we know there was no school on Wednesday and Thursday involved a cough, Tuesday had to have been the last day they were in school.

Locked :(
 
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First Nations children may also be eligible for compensation through the First Nations Child and Family Services Settlement. Indigenous children may also qualify for funding through Jordan's Principle, which helps them access essential services.
I've only heard that the children have a maternal grandfather who has Indian Status. There are rules on whether or not subsequent generations can have Indian Status. Based on the information below would these children be considered First Nation.

 
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I wonder of this family were already known to any outside services? I mean we have a family with 3 young children, 2 whom the family identify as having potential additional needs, from what we can see from the outside of the home living conditions may have been questionable and, from statement released in the press (by step father I think) the family seemed to be low income, with mom being a stay at home mom and step dad only working minimal hours. Not saying they would be known to the equivalent of Child Protection services but would be interesting to know if they recieved any family support or there were professionals who had insight into the family
 
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I wish we were allowed to say what we really think happened. Because I feel like people aren’t being truthful how things unfolded that dreadful day. I really don’t think they know tbh imo. A lot of these cases start with information that the child/ren haven’t been in school a day or two or even longer before 911 is called. First red flag imo
 
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I've only heard that the children have a maternal grandfather who has Indian Status. There are rules on whether or not subsequent generations can have Indian Status. Based on the information below would these children be considered First Nation.

It is MBM's father who is a member of the band. Not her mother. the band made a public statement to that effect and calling for calm and pleading for people to provide support and not participate in hurtful speculation if I recall.
 
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Actually, the father would be legally responsible too, based on what the Criminal Code says:
Criminal Code

Duty of persons to provide necessaries

  • 215(1) Every one is under a legal duty
    • (a) as a parent, foster parent, guardian or head of a family, to provide necessaries of life for a child under the age of sixteen years;
    • (b) to provide necessaries of life to their spouse or common-law partner; and
    • (c) to provide necessaries of life to a person under his charge if that person
      • (i) is unable, by reason of detention, age, illness, mental disorder or other cause, to withdraw himself from that charge, and
      • (ii) is unable to provide himself with necessaries of life
People can give up parental rights but they will only be accepted if it is to the benefit of the child.
 
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I've only heard that the children have a maternal grandfather who has Indian Status. There are rules on whether or not subsequent generations can have Indian Status. Based on the information below would these children be considered First Nation.

It was acknowledged earlier by the chief that the children are members of the band. The only information about how they qualified is through the maternal grandfather, as you mentioned. Maybe the biodad belongs to the same band, purely my speculation.

More speculation - Where’s “back home”?? Do we know where MBM lived prior to hooking up with DM three or so years ago?


The children are members of the Sipekne’katik First Nation, according to chief Michelle Glasgow.

“Please help bring Lily and Jack back home,” Glasgow said on social media.
 
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MOO. One of my theories. So much talk about boots. DM mentioned their boots with more detail than anything else they were wearing and said "their boots were gone." He also mentioned the boot prints outside the house. The bus driver mentioned that Jack would take off his boot and throw it at him while he was driving. MBM didn't mention them in her interview, though. I wonder if Jack ever got in any trouble for throwing his boots? Did a fellow student tell their parents that Jack was prone to throw boots, or did the bus driver mention it? Were MBM and DM told about Jack's behavior by the school, maybe threatened that there would be a home visit to discuss Jack's behavior and Lilly's shrieking? IMO I think those "boots were gone" Tuesday night after the kids came home from school. IMO those boots are not where the children are.
 
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It was acknowledged earlier by the chief that the children are members of the band. The only information about how they qualified is through the maternal grandfather, as you mentioned. Maybe the biodad belongs to the same band, purely my speculation.

More speculation - Where’s “back home”?? Do we know where MBM lived prior to hooking up with DM three or so years ago?


The children are members of the Sipekne’katik First Nation, according to chief Michelle Glasgow.

“Please help bring Lily and Jack back home,” Glasgow said on social media.
Reading the CNN article, I'm a little confused. Glasgow's social media, linked in in your quote, does not say anything about Lily and Jack being members of the band, but that they are 'a part of' the band. In addition, the press release from Sipekne’katik First Nation does not mention the kids being members of the band. The wording is important on this one and I'm speculating that CNN didn't do their due diligence in researching band membership in Canada.

And then there's another layer, in that being a member of a band does not necessarily mean you have Indian Status (don't come for me, that's the official government term!). It's super confusing.
 
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As countries law systems vary ,is a formal interview , in Canada, one done under oath and a reason has to be given for the interview ?
If someone is being interviewed by LE they are under no obligation to answer any questions. LE love people like DM who can't stop talking. He's either giving them bucketloads of information they can use or he might be spinning a tale. An interrogation is another thing altogether. Just for an example, in Canada if LE decides to interrogate someone, the POI has no right to counsel while being interrogated. However, if they request one, LE cannot put roadblocks to deny counsel. The POI can't be compelled to speak but if the POI has already spoken freely those things could be used against him/her.
 
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MOO. One of my theories. So much talk about boots. DM mentioned their boots with more detail than anything else they were wearing and said "their boots were gone." He also mentioned the boot prints outside the house. The bus driver mentioned that Jack would take off his boot and throw it at him while he was driving. MBM didn't mention them in her interview, though. I wonder if Jack ever got in any trouble for throwing his boots? Did a fellow student tell their parents that Jack was prone to throw boots, or did the bus driver mention it? Were MBM and DM told about Jack's behavior by the school, maybe threatened that there would be a home visit to discuss Jack's behavior and Lilly's shrieking? IMO I think those "boots were gone" Tuesday night after the kids came home from school. IMO those boots are not where the children are.
I've had a similar thought regarding the boots being separate from the kids. And the boots being made to form a couple of footprints facing the road they never walk across.

Moo
 
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I've had a similar thought regarding the boots being separate from the kids. And the boots being made to form a couple of footprints facing the road they never walk across.

Moo
Yep. And they'd be left behind if there were an animal attack. MOO I believe the parents are responsible for what happened to poor Jack and Lilly; I haven't made up my mind if this was active or passive/negligent.
 
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And him offering up his phone (confirm his whereabouts..NOT there) offering to take a lie detector (confirm he is telling the truth that he doesn't know where or what happened to the children)
JMO it could make sense that he wasn't there!?
I don't think DM giving his phone up to LE or asking to take a lie detector test are indicator or innocence. In the case of the phone, lots of people delete information but don't realize LE have ways of finding it. And almost everyone knows whether you take a lie detector test and fail it's still not permissible in court.
 
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MOO. One of my theories. So much talk about boots. DM mentioned their boots with more detail than anything else they were wearing and said "their boots were gone." He also mentioned the boot prints outside the house. The bus driver mentioned that Jack would take off his boot and throw it at him while he was driving. MBM didn't mention them in her interview, though. I wonder if Jack ever got in any trouble for throwing his boots? Did a fellow student tell their parents that Jack was prone to throw boots, or did the bus driver mention it? Were MBM and DM told about Jack's behavior by the school, maybe threatened that there would be a home visit to discuss Jack's behavior and Lilly's shrieking? IMO I think those "boots were gone" Tuesday night after the kids came home from school. IMO those boots are not where the children are.
It would be very unusual for there to be a home visit to discuss behaviour,usually parents are asked into school to have a discussion.
I wonder if the children always wore their boots or whether they had other outdoor shoes.
 
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I don't think DM giving his phone up to LE or asking to take a lie detector test are indicator or innocence. In the case of the phone, lots of people delete information but don't realize LE have ways of finding it. And almost everyone knows whether you take a lie detector test and fail it's still not permissible in court.

I find it all a bit try hard.

He could easily be offering these things to the police behind the scenes. We don't need to know about it.

He should focus his interviews on urging the public for help, and things about the kids that might help the public, or messages for the kids if they happen to see a TV.


Moo
 
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Does anyone think it's possible the kids could have been purposely left somewhere?
 
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It would be very unusual for there to be a home visit to discuss behaviour,usually parents are asked into school to have a discussion.
I wonder if the children always wore their boots or whether they had other outdoor shoes.
I was just wondering similar. I know boots are all that matters because that's what we're told are missing, but I know a lot of kids find them clunky so if they were taking themselves out they might choose differently.

Also really wish we knew if Jack had clothing or not. A lot of kids that age like being naked, so I get it, but would he bother to put boots on if he didn't attempt to get dressed?

I was barefoot all the time as a kid, you don't feel stuff the same :)

Jmo
 
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