CANADA Canada - Jack, 4 & Lilly Sullivan, 6, Vulnerable, wandered from home 10am, Gairloch Rd, Landsdowne Station, Pictou County, NS, 2 May 2025 #4

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FansBlowing said:
I don't think they will find the kids in the woods. Daniel looked and called for them for two hours before they called the police. More than 100 volunteers then called and looked for them for 4 or 5 days. They are not out there. Someone has taken them or hidden their bodies.
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Wanted to add that weren't SAR dogs taken out around the yard and area the first day ?
Did they find a scent going into the woods ?
The first hours are so important to find a trail.
Imo.
 
ttjo said:
Has anyone found where this pipeline trail is? is it an actual trail called pipeline trail? or is it where they put in a pipeline? There is a pump jack just off gairloch road, If theres a pipeline Im assuming it would be there, I'll attach the link , if someone knows how to read these maps maybe it will help ( i dont know if this is exactly where theyre looking, but have a look see what you think.View attachment 590049

CER – Interactive Pipeline Map

Interactive Pipeline Map
www.cer-rec.gc.ca www.cer-rec.gc.ca
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I think it might be this road here in the circle but cannot be sure - I know nothing about pipelines so don't even know what I am looking for.
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tlcya said:
I think it might be this road here in the circle but cannot be sure - I know nothing about pipelines so don't even know what I am looking for.
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I couldnt get one with coordinates to see how close or far away it was from their property, i can only tell about the pipeline because it says they have a pump jack there.
 

Two boot tracks? I thought it was one. So I was confused (probably) or new information? Is the yellow bar in the map linked the pipeline?

Oh, OK, two boot tracks near the home and another nearby according to DM.

I find it a little strange the way he says footage of him with all 3 children and the mum has been found of them in New Glasgow, as if it was news to himself that they were even there. But probably he's just worded that rather strangely, probably doesn't mean anything.

MOO
 
tlcya said:
thank you. I think what confused me is that someone (DM, a searcher, can't recall) at one point described the boot print as near the trailer. So if you look at the photo of the vicinity I shared above, if the boot print was found on that logging trail that is a very great distance IMO from the trailer.

ETA it has also been described as "on the edge of the property"

At one point, search crews did find a possible boot print that appeared to be from a young child, which led to an extensive, grid-like search around that area. MacKinnon says nothing came out of that search, and no other signs of the children have been located.
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Speaking with CTV Atlantic on Tuesday, Martell said the only concrete clue found during the search so far is a boot print on the edge of their property.
‘The likelihood that they’re alive right now is very low’: Search for missing siblings in N.S. scaled back

If they are still describing that same boot print I am a bit disappointed. It sounds as if the area of boot print interest has been searched pretty extensively already at least twice. Hoping maybe third time is the charm. 🤞
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I recall a boot print being found near the trailer pointing towards the road.
 
Snoop Sister said:
I would be extremely angry if I were in his shoes and being accused without any proof that I did something nefarious.
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Agreed.
Anyone would be.

It can't be helped what is being said other sources like social media, but it might help him to unplug for a bit and not read it, outside of mainstream media ?
One other option DM could consider is to ask the RCMP to declare both him and MBM cleared, in order to stop any unwanted speculation.
Then the focus can be on only finding the children, and there'd be no more questioning of what is said by DM or anyone else in the family, to the media.

Channel his energy towards requesting that LE let the public know that people need to look outwards towards unknown abductors; or to get together as a community and start looking for the children.
It might help DM somewhat if LE come out publicly and say the the mom and boyfriend (him) are cleared, even IF there was a kidnapping -- which would indicate someone outside of (and unknown to) the family of Jack and Lilly ?
Imo.
 
Bigditch said:
I recall a boot print being found near the trailer pointing towards the road.
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it gets confusing, it wasnt broadcasted about the other footprints, and I dont know if theyre talking about a hiking trail called "pipeline trail " or an actual trail of the pipeline? I just looked up the pipeline to see if it was close and if that was a possibility. I do not know for sure where they are searching.
 
ttjo said:
Thank you that makes so much more sense.
so what is that anyway? why is it called pipeline trail?
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I believe it's where the actual gas pipeline runs through the area. This doesn't seem to just be a residential supply line, but part of an international infrastructure that delivers "mined" gas from the gas fields to the hub. If that's the case, I would expect this to be very large in diameter (several feet), above ground (likely on some sort of supports), clear-cut for many meters on either side, and - I imagine - relatively cleared by now of any debris left by the hurricane due to safety concerns and efforts to prevent damage or leaks.

It could be exactly the kind of path two lost youngsters would follow to avoid tough going in the wrecked forest. I wonder where these "cabins" that DM mentioned are relative to the pipeline's path.
 
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ttjo said:
I know thats what is confusing, is it a trail or an actual pipeline, someone from Nova scotia will let us know. which one is closer to their property?
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What’s referred to a a ‘trail’ I think is the cleared wide path above the pipeline that is buried underground, the pipeline right of-way which provides access to the pipeline for maintenance and repair work. Not an expert and as much as I know about pipelines.
 
su5ie said:
I would be very interested to know if the kids usually walked to the bus alone . Its not been mentioned.
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A good few members, I think Canadians maybe even Nova Scotians, have mentioned that school buses are not allowed to pick up or drop off children without a parent or legal guardian being present. I don't think there's been any official word on that tho, from RCMP or local school board.

I sure wouldn't want to allow a 4 yo and a 6yo to walk down to such a road on their own, there's no sidewalk plus some fairly big vehicles going past apparently, like logging trucks. Can be pretty scary for children. Or sometimes children do very impulsive things, which could endanger them (e.g. attempt to run across the road).
 
Just pointing out the search tomorrow will also focus on “specific areas around Gairloch Rd” although the pipeline trail is receiving the most attention. If the previous search was a 5.5km radius with the home in the centre and the pipeline trail is only over a km away that would indicate this isn’t a fresh new search of it as it falls within the search radius.


BBM
Pictou County missing persons investigation continues with ground search this weekend rcmp-grc.gc.ca/en/news/2025/p…

In an effort to advance the ongoing investigation and locate Lilly and Jack, searchers from ground search and rescue teams and the RCMP will focus on specific areas around Gairloch Rd. and the nearby pipeline trail, where a boot print was previously located.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1928523254039237060
 
I would be interested to know if these searches are being done because of new information they have received from tips or from webcam or other video footage they have received. I would have thought that having know about the boot prints near the pipeline from the first searches ,the second searches would have looked very carefully in the surrounding area
 
The more I read about this case, the more I feel as if it was a crime of pure opportunity. Someone was driving, someone saw children, they took them. I was local to Chris Watts when his interviews were airing on the news. I immediately felt as if he knew something. My gut isn’t pulling the same with this case. There was definitely a lapse of supervision on the parents part, but even with all the issues others have pointed out on here, I just can’t shake the feeling that, no matter how small of a possibility, someone nefarious took these two babies, for whatever reason.
 
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