CANADA Canada - Jack, 4 & Lilly Sullivan, 6, Vulnerable, wandered from home 10am, Gairloch Rd, Landsdowne Station, Pictou County, NS, 2 May 2025 #4

[JDG]

It’s also reasonable for an Indigenous Woman to not engage the media due to historic and current discrimination against Indigenous Mothers. We seem to forget this mother has probably faced much prejudice in her life. Look at the rumours and judgment already. In this space and time the parents are victims and we need to treat them as such, not question their actions.

Your last sentence should apply to all mothers and (step) fathers in these circumstances. IMO

 

[Alison]

Your last sentence should apply to all mothers and (step) fathers in these circumstances. IMO

I wholeheartedly agree. I joined Webseluths to follow the Tori Stafford case. Much finger pointing towards the mom. Doesn’t act right, uses substances….judge judge judge. Turned out it was a random abduction .

 

[IzzyBlanche]

In this space and time the parents are victims and we need to treat them as such, not question their actions.

--said no law enforcement entity ever

That was random.

My point is, stipulating that the parents are victims does not mean we can't discuss their words and behaviors that strike us as odd.

 

[Cedars]

I wholeheartedly agree. I joined Webseluths to follow the Tori Stafford case. Much finger pointing towards the mom. Doesn’t act right, uses substances….judge judge judge. Turned out it was a random abduction .

I remember feeling confused about the Australian Chamberlain case ('a dingy ate my baby'): why did people hate her so much? She was sentenced to life in prison, her husband an accessory...until someone found the baby's clothes outside a dingo den.

JMO

 

[sunshineray]

Three days ago LE releases "new" info that Lilly and Jack were seen on May 1st out in public with family members.

"The Royal Canadian Mounted Police (RCMP) told Newsweek that siblings Lilly and Jack Sullivan "were observed in public with family members" on May 1 in Nova Scotia, the day before they were reported missing."

IIRC, Lilly was out of school because of a cough that day.

I find it odd that the where "in public" was not even hinted at, just in Nova Scotia. Were they seen at a store maybe getting cough syrup? If sick, why out in public at all? Were they just kept out of school for whatever reason and were not sick at all? Most parents have done that a few times. But why the secrecy about it?

Why not just a statement of, Lilly and Jack went here on May 1st with so and so?

I think this may be the key to everything, possible conflicting stories.

Just some thoughts and AJMO

Lilly and Jack update: Police release new information on missing kids

Police have confirmed that Lilly and Jack Sullivan, two children who went missing in Nova Scotia, were seen in public on May 1.

www.newsweek.com

 

[MistyWaters]

No. You continue to misinterpret every post I make.

Pardon me, I’ll try harder. If that the couple should be making some sort of public plea is a reasonable expectation as you stated, then by omission what does that indicate?

Several of us have given you other possible reasons why they haven’t which you appear to either overlook or dispute. So why do you think your reasonable expectations haven’t been met?

 

[MistyWaters]

Coincidental similarities Search is underway for a missing 8 year old in Newfoundland with autism spectrum disorder, last seen running into a wooded area this afternoon @ 3:45pm.

https://vocm.com/2025/05/30/rcmp-searching-for-missing-8-year-old-girl-on-random-island/

 

[IzzyBlanche]

Pardon me, I’ll try harder. If that the couple should be making some sort of public plea is a reasonable expectation as you stated, then by omission what does that indicate?

I'm not the person you're replying to, but I agree with them that the couple making some sort of public plea is a reasonable expectation of the parents of missing children.

On the other hand, I don't think the omission thereof indicates anything in particular.

JMO

 

[Sillybilly]

ADMIN NOTE:

The back and forth bickering in this case needs to stop or thread reply bans will be issued.

Members and guests don't come to this discussion to watch you try to hammer your own point of view into someone else's head.

It is not at all necessary to be argumentative and debate/dispute or respond to every single post that isn't 100% in line with your own opinion ... a good old mental eyeroll will suffice, then scroll and roll.

 

[musicaljoke]

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It’s also reasonable for an Indigenous Woman to not engage the media due to historic and current discrimination against Indigenous Mothers. We seem to forget this mother has probably faced much prejudice in her life. Look at the rumours and judgment already. In this space and time the parents are victims and we need to treat them as such, not question their actions.

Indeed, and add to that the fear that her young daughter will be removed from her care. I believe that her actions since Lilly and Jack disappeared can be attributed to these concerns.

 

[musicaljoke]

Three days ago LE releases "new" info that Lilly and Jack were seen on May 1st out in public with family members.

"The Royal Canadian Mounted Police (RCMP) told Newsweek that siblings Lilly and Jack Sullivan "were observed in public with family members" on May 1 in Nova Scotia, the day before they were reported missing."

IIRC, Lilly was out of school because of a cough that day.

I find it odd that the where "in public" was not even hinted at, just in Nova Scotia. Were they seen at a store maybe getting cough syrup? If sick, why out in public at all? Were they just kept out of school for whatever reason and were not sick at all? Most parents have done that a few times. But why the secrecy about it?

Why not just a statement of, Lilly and Jack went here on May 1st with so and so?

I think this may be the key to everything, possible conflicting stories.

Just some thoughts and AJMO

Lilly and Jack update: Police release new information on missing kids

Police have confirmed that Lilly and Jack Sullivan, two children who went missing in Nova Scotia, were seen in public on May 1.

www.newsweek.com

The location that they were seen is irrelevant to the general public. The family was seen on video and by witnesses. Not naming the location protects the witnesses from harassment, from being told false information, from disclosing facts that may be important in the investigation, and from other issues that can arise.

 

[Snoop Sister]

BBM

“Four weeks after two children vanished without a trace in rural Nova Scotia, the children's stepfather is still holding on to hope.”

Snipped

“In a news release, RCMP said they will "focus on specific areas around Gairloch Road and the nearby pipeline trail, where a boot print was previously located.”
There is an interactive map of todays search area in the link below.

Also in the link, Martel denies there was a drug party at his house the night before the children went missing. He stated the aforementioned was absolute nonsense.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/jack-lilly-sullivan-missing-children-pictou-1.7548258

 

[Ontario Mom]

Playing devils advocate here but…Maybe those closest to the kids know they are being brought back to tomorrow’s search area. If the kids didn’t leave on their own, who had what to gain from having these kids gone? Was it an elaborate scheme? Will they miraculously appear tomorrow (I hope so), or will some sicko have left them there? LE must know something.

One thing I know for certain, is that LE knows a ton more than the public does (they always do) and they haven't named anyone as a suspect, at this time. That says a lot. That may also change any moment.

 

[MistyWaters]

The location that they were seen is irrelevant to the general public. The family was seen on video and by witnesses. Not naming the location protects the witnesses from harassment, from being told false information, from disclosing facts that may be important in the investigation, and from other issues that can arise.

This is essentially the reason DM stated as well. It’s also proof to me that he’s not just spouting out the first thought that enters his head it in front of the media camera, he’s getting briefed by the RCMP in advance.
JMO

BBM

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/jack-lilly-sullivan-missing-children-pictou-1.7548258

Martell said police have retrieved surveillance camera footage in New Glasgow that shows himself; the children's mother, Malehya Brooks-Murray; the couple's one-year-old baby, Meadow; and Lilly and Jack. He said he couldn't say where the footage came from because it might be important to the investigation.

 

[FansBlowing]

How could the location the family was seen at the day before be important to the investigation? Do they think someone followed them home from town?

 

[Sjöberg]

I really don't know which way things will go with this one. But IMO we can discuss possible locations of interest for alternative scenarios, without ranking them in order of our personal perception of probability.
1) If the kids walked off, what could have caused the lack of return and where to look for them?
2) If the kids were abducted, where were the windows of opportunity for that and could it have been someone known to the kids or a random person?
3) If the kids were harmed at home, be it some immediate family or someone else, what could be the motive to harm two kids, boy 4 and girl 6, and how could it play out with the probable lack of any physical evidence of deadly harm?
4) Is it possible there is another person and/or another scene involved, someone/-where from the families immediate circle with ot without the knowledge of all parties?

 

[AddyFinch]

DM could be talking to media to deflect attention away from him, as he knows MBM has talked to LE and told them everything........
I doubt they intentionally gave kids drugs, but kids getting into it on own is highly possible, unless of course ..............

 

[MistyWaters]

One thing I know for certain, is that LE knows a ton more than the public does (they always do) and they haven't named anyone as a suspect, at this time. That says a lot. That may also change any moment.

They haven’t even stated they believe foul play was involved.

Something I noted with the 8 year old girl missing in the woods in Nfld, it’s apparent the behavior of an autistic child is distinctly unique. I’m sure the RCMP have the benefit of advice by child behavioural professionals who are better able to predict the actions of these children if they indeed wandered off. We tend to assume they wouldn’t go deep into the wilderness or they’d answer to their names being called so as they’ve not been found yet is proof they were never there, but maybe that’s an incorrect assumption?
JMO

 

[MistyWaters]

DM could be talking to media to deflect attention away from him, as he knows MBM has talked to LE and told them everything........
I doubt they intentionally gave kids drugs, but kids getting into it on own is highly possible, unless of course ..............

DM claimed he talked to LE for four hours.

Put all his comments to the media together and it probably doesn’t exceed five minutes of talking. Lots we don’t know IMO.

 

[Ontario Mom]

How could the location the family was seen at the day before be important to the investigation? Do they think someone followed them home from town?

I believe he was quoted as saying it might be important to the investigation. It sounds like that might have been something he was told by someone. He's not an investigator, so obviously he wouldn't know for sure.