CANADA Canada - Jack, 4 & Lilly Sullivan, 6, Vulnerable, wandered from home 10am, Gairloch Rd, Landsdowne Station, Pictou County, NS, 2 May 2025 #5

[Lexiintoronto]

FWIW- some maps.

Stills from:

https://www.cbc.ca/player/play/video/9.6805395

Those are images of the pipeline trail, approximately 1.2 kms from the family home and where a boot print was found. Judging from how leafy and green the foliage is, the video was taken sometime in June, imo. The trail is broader than I imagined. On the maps it looks as wide as a typical two-lane highway, but it may be a bit wider.

DM said a piece of what he believes to be Lilly’s blanket was found by the family in the area of the pipeline trail and Lansdowne Road, close to where a child’s boot print was found by searchers. (That’s where DM places it, LE has only said a boot print was found on the pipeline trail).

Google maps image.

The small pin is where the family home is, the pipeline is highlighted in yellow, and the large pin is where Lansdowne Road intersects with the pipeline.

I’m not convinced yet it was part of Lilly’s blanket because LE haven’t confirmed it. But if the boot print was found in that location maybe Lilly and Jack walked on Gairloch Road to Lansdowne Road and walked northeast.

That is the most direct route to their school in Salt Springs. Lilly took her backpack, which I’m guessing was what she took to school with her pencil case, workbooks etc., imo.

 

[Marzipan]

FWIW- some maps.

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Stills from:

https://www.cbc.ca/player/play/video/9.6805395

Those are images of the pipeline trail, approximately 1.2 kms from the family home and where a boot print was found. Judging from how leafy and green the foliage is, the video was taken sometime in June, imo. The trail is broader than I imagined. On the maps it looks as wide as a typical two-lane highway, but it may be a bit wider.

DM said a piece of what he believes to be Lilly’s blanket was found by the family in the area of the pipeline trail and Lansdowne Road, close to where a child’s boot print was found by searchers. (That’s where DM places it, LE has only said a boot print was found on the pipeline trail).
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Google maps image.

The small pin is where the family home is, the pipeline is highlighted in yellow, and the large pin is where Lansdowne Road intersects with the pipeline.

I’m not convinced yet it was part of Lilly’s blanket because LE haven’t confirmed it. But if the boot print was found in that location maybe Lilly and Jack walked on Gairloch Road to Lansdowne Road and walked northeast.
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That is the most direct route to their school in Salt Springs. Lilly took her backpack, which I’m guessing was what she took to school with her pencil case, workbooks etc., imo.

Gotta wonder if any adult shoe/boot prints were found near that one. It might be hard for that to mean anything with all the searchers but I do wonder if they are able to surmise anything regarding prints other than the child-size one.

 

[MerlinFalcon]

Why are they not letting the public see the video the police have of the family shopping the day before they went missing? Is it because there are children or is this some Canadian rule? In the US, the video would have been shown ASAP, I believe.

Canadian police keep things very close to the vest. If they felt it would help to broadcast any information they would have done it.

 

[Bigditch]

FWIW- some maps.

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Stills from:

https://www.cbc.ca/player/play/video/9.6805395

Those are images of the pipeline trail, approximately 1.2 kms from the family home and where a boot print was found. Judging from how leafy and green the foliage is, the video was taken sometime in June, imo. The trail is broader than I imagined. On the maps it looks as wide as a typical two-lane highway, but it may be a bit wider.

DM said a piece of what he believes to be Lilly’s blanket was found by the family in the area of the pipeline trail and Lansdowne Road, close to where a child’s boot print was found by searchers. (That’s where DM places it, LE has only said a boot print was found on the pipeline trail).
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Google maps image.

The small pin is where the family home is, the pipeline is highlighted in yellow, and the large pin is where Lansdowne Road intersects with the pipeline.

I’m not convinced yet it was part of Lilly’s blanket because LE haven’t confirmed it. But if the boot print was found in that location maybe Lilly and Jack walked on Gairloch Road to Lansdowne Road and walked northeast.
View attachment 599331

That is the most direct route to their school in Salt Springs. Lilly took her backpack, which I’m guessing was what she took to school with her pencil case, workbooks etc., imo.

I don't think we know for sure Lilly took her backpack. Anyone?

Great pic by the way.

Just so I can get it straight in my head. Did the kids exited through the backyard or front according to your map?

 

[seasideForest]

Why are they not letting the public see the video the police have of the family shopping the day before they went missing? Is it because there are children or is this some Canadian rule? In the US, the video would have been shown ASAP, I believe.

Canada isn't the US, just saying. RCMP can do things differently from US police.

 

[Lexiintoronto]

I don't think we know for sure Lilly took her backpack. Anyone?

Great pic by the way.

Just so I can get it straight in my head. Did the kids exited through the backyard or front according to your map?

It’s believed she took her backpack:

N.S. missing kids: Province offers $150K reward in search for Lilly and Jack | Globalnews.ca

Their disappearance has been added to the province's Major Unsolved Crimes Program, which the province says is a 'tool to help police in major unsolved crime cases.'

globalnews.ca

DM and their mother think the children exited through the rear sliding back door. If they took the route I suggested, they would have walked to the front of the home to Gairloch Road.

I’m not sure of anything, though. If that was their boot print, DM seems to place it near a main road.

 

[Bigditch]

It’s believed she took her backpack:
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N.S. missing kids: Province offers $150K reward in search for Lilly and Jack | Globalnews.ca

Their disappearance has been added to the province's Major Unsolved Crimes Program, which the province says is a 'tool to help police in major unsolved crime cases.'

globalnews.ca

DM and their mother think the children exited through the rear sliding back door. If they took the route I suggested, they would have walked to the front of the home to Gairloch Road.

I’m not sure of anything, though. If that was their boot print, DM seems to place it near a main road.

So they walked to the road and then turned left toward the pipeline trail? And then, left onto the pipeline trail?

 

[Bigditch]

It’s believed she took her backpack:
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N.S. missing kids: Province offers $150K reward in search for Lilly and Jack | Globalnews.ca

Their disappearance has been added to the province's Major Unsolved Crimes Program, which the province says is a 'tool to help police in major unsolved crime cases.'

globalnews.ca

DM and their mother think the children exited through the rear sliding back door. If they took the route I suggested, they would have walked to the front of the home to Gairloch Road.

I’m not sure of anything, though. If that was their boot print, DM seems to place it near a main road.

What I'm trying to do in my own mind is string together the known facts.

There are a couple of great theories accompanied by maps that demonstrate routes the kids might have taken. Posted upthread by AddyFinch and another by Su5ie.

 

[Marzipan]

What I'm trying to do in my own mind is string together the known facts.

There are a couple of great theories accompanied by maps that demonstrate routes the kids might have taken. Posted upthread by AddyFinch and another by Su5ie.

Sorry to be lazy — do we know the name of their school?

 

[Lexiintoronto]

So they walked to the road and then turned left toward the pipeline trail? And then, left onto the pipeline trail?

No, in this scenerio they would have turned right on Gairloch Road, and then returned right again on Lansdowne to reach the pipeline.(All speculation.)

 

[Lexiintoronto]

Sorry to be lazy — do we know the name of their school?

Salt Springs Elementary.

 

[Bigditch]

Sorry to be lazy — do we know the name of their school?

dbm

 

[Bahshudc]

Yeah, this is getting ridiculous. Where on EARTH are these kids?? It seems impossible to rule anything out at this point. The mind boggles.

 

[musicaljoke]

Why are they not letting the public see the video the police have of the family shopping the day before they went missing? Is it because there are children or is this some Canadian rule? In the US, the video would have been shown ASAP, I believe.

Canadian news has much less of a theatrical element than the US news, so showing a video like that, which only purpose would be for sensational content, would not pass the journalistic standards test.

https://cbc.radio-canada.ca/en/vision/governance/journalistic-standards-and-practices

 

[ilovepierre]

Canada isn't the US, just saying. RCMP can do things differently from US police.

Exactly. We have much stricter confidentiality laws here-which is why we also haven’t heard the 911 call.

 

[justice2962]

Case of missing N.S. kids hits 2 months with no answers. What we know | Globalnews.ca

Lilly and Jack Sullivan, aged six and four, were reported missing from their home on May 2 but multiple searches for them have turned up no evidence of their whereabouts.

globalnews.ca

Case of missing N.S. kids hits 2 months with no answers. What we know​

 

[musicaljoke]

No, in this scenerio they would have turned right on Gairloch Road, and then returned right again on Lansdowne to reach the pipeline.(All speculation.)

If they followed the road, would there not have been enough traffic that someone would have spotted them? Because no one saw them walking along the road, it makes me think that they walked out the back door and into the bush then kept walking, eventually arriving at the pipeline trail, and from there we have no idea where they went. It would have been easiest for them to follow the pipeline trail once they got there. However, we just don't know what they might have done. It doesn't seem likely that they stayed on the pipeline trail or they would have been found by now. Perhaps they attempted to walk back home through the woods. I wish we knew.

 

[LadyL]

I think this might be the quote:

“On the first day of the search, emergency responders speaking over a non-encrypted radio channel mention a canine unit being dispatched to a blanket.

‘Families (I think this should read ‘Family’s’,) brought us to a location there not far away that there's a piece of a blanket which the mother says she believes belongs to her daughter, just off the road here’ an official said over the radio.

Martell confirmed it was a piece of Lilly's blanket.

There is more evidence than what the public knows, but I can't elaborate on any of that, said Martell.

He did say it was found on Lansdowne Road near the location of a child-sized boot print that was discovered around the same time by searchers in the area of a pipeline trail, just over a kilometre from the children's home.”

Polygraphs, a blanket and a bootprint: New details of investigation into missing N.S. children revealed | RCI

Nearly a dozen RCMP units are trying to piece together what happened to Lilly and Jack Sullivan.

ici.radio-canada.ca

I remember hearing of another boot print by the road of the property, but it was early on and not officially confirmed the way the one on the pipeline trail was. The SAR leader Amy Hansen said that the only possible clues found was a boot print (or prints) found by the pipeline. And they don’t 100% know if either of the children made them.

Families is correct. 'Family's' would translate to 'family is brought us to a location ...'.

 

[Woolly]

Families is correct. 'Family's' would translate to 'family is brought us to a location ...'.

It can also mean “Family has” which makes sense in this context.

 

[Lucy6226]

Having started listening to a Canadian true crime podcast recently and becoming more familiar with the way RCMP work... I'm suspecting they are playing the long game here. They know exactly what's happened and are just in the long process of gathering that evidence. Moo