CANADA Canada - Jack, 4 & Lilly Sullivan, 6, Vulnerable, wandered from home 10am, Gairloch Rd, Landsdowne Station, Pictou County, NS, 2 May 2025 #6

[Sillybilly]

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[Sillybilly]

Thanks for your patience folks.

Thread is open again.

 

[Minordetails]

<modsnip> I've followed countless cases over the years (many of them right here) that weren't solved in a month, but instead took years, even decades and were never declared cold by the agency investigating.

Until or unless the RCMP officially call it a cold case, it's not.

This is 2025. With the tools, technology and expertise we have today, it should be nearly impossible for children to just disappear. I’m not confident that all tools, technology and expertise were deployed properly in the first 48 hrs. JMO

 

[LookingForClues]

<modsnip>

I’m sad we don't know any more than a month ago. I still don't know what I think happened to these beautiful kids. I don’t usually follow missing children cases, but this started as "wandered off," and that happens more than we wish, especially around where I live. Middle of nowhere, kids raised in the woods, family members work in the woods, hunt in the woods, play in the woods, vacation in the woods at the family hunting cabins.

I continue to give these parents some grace, since LE hasn't named any POIs. I'm not trying to be nice, or naive, or gullible. I'm just bringing my life experience to the discussion...a life experience that is very different than my life experience 30 years ago when I lived in a busy, huge city. I guess I've been around long enough to know that things aren't always what they seem, especially when we change our glasses and view things from a different perspective.

 

[justice2962]

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/rcmp-forensic-examining-blanket-found-during-search-of-missing-n-s-children-1.7586162

The release said a pink blanket that was seized on Lansdowne Road during the search is being forensically examined. The children's stepfather, Daniel Martell, previously told CBC News that the blanket belongs to Lilly.
"Right now, there are more than 800 tasks associated to this investigation," Staff Sgt. Rob McCamon, the acting officer in charge of major crimes and and behavioural sciences.



"A tremendous amount of careful, deliberate investigative work is underway by people here at home and in other parts of Canada. Our collective efforts will continue every day until we determine with certainty the circumstances surrounding Lilly and Jack's disappearance."

 

[FansBlowing]

"The Mounties said they are reviewing about 5,000 video files obtained through a video canvass of Lansdowne Station..."

Imagine having that job. Do they just sit and watch 24 hours of video taken from a gas station or a store? Seems like a good job for AI somehow.

 

[Slebby]

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/rcmp-forensic-examining-blanket-found-during-search-of-missing-n-s-children-1.7586162

The release said a pink blanket that was seized on Lansdowne Road during the search is being forensically examined. The children's stepfather, Daniel Martell, previously told CBC News that the blanket belongs to Lilly.
"Right now, there are more than 800 tasks associated to this investigation," Staff Sgt. Rob McCamon, the acting officer in charge of major crimes and and behavioural sciences.



"A tremendous amount of careful, deliberate investigative work is underway by people here at home and in other parts of Canada. Our collective efforts will continue every day until we determine with certainty the circumstances surrounding Lilly and Jack's disappearance."

Thank you for sharing this. It is good to have an update. It sounds like they are being very thorough in the investigation, as I have believed all along.
IMO

 

[Ontario Mom]

“Right now, there are more than 800 tasks associated to this investigation,” says S/Sgt. Rob McCamon, Officer in Charge (acting), Major Crime and Behavioural Sciences. “A tremendous amount of careful, deliberate investigative work is underway by people here at home and in other parts of Canada; our collective efforts will continue every day until we determine with certainty the circumstances surrounding Lilly and Jack’s disappearance.” https://rcmp.ca/en/nova-scotia/news...sappearance-lilly-and-jack-sullivan-continues

This is exactly the kind of update I was expecting to hear. I'm thankful there are so many professionals working this case for Jack and Lilly.

 

[whiterhino]

"The Mounties said they are reviewing about 5,000 video files obtained through a video canvass of Lansdowne Station..."

Imagine having that job. Do they just sit and watch 24 hours of video taken from a gas station or a store? Seems like a good job for AI somehow.

Just reminding you to add a link while you can still edit your post!

If my child were missing I'd want every resource available but Idk about AI... I'm sure it has a place in law enforcement somewhere. JMO.

 

[Ontario Mom]

Just reminding you to add a link while you can still edit your post!

If my child were missing I'd want every resource available but Idk about AI... I'm sure it has a place in law enforcement somewhere. JMO.

People have a passion for justice that can't be replaced with AI, and if Jack and Lilly were my kids, I'd want real human eyes doing that job.

 

[teeby]

People have a passion for justice that can't be replaced with AI, and if Jack and Lilly were my kids, I'd want real human eyes doing that job.

I think AI can be useful when it's like 300 hours of video surveillance of a gas station (just a random example, not related to this case) and you get the AI to tell you which time periods have motion on the frame. I wouldn't want the AI trying to figure out which vehicles entering the gas station were relevant or anything like that.

 

[MistyWaters]

Thank you for sharing this. It is good to have an update. It sounds like they are being very thorough in the investigation, as I have believed all along.
IMO

I wish they’d have itemized what they accomplished in the previous 2 1/2 months. Instead the lengthy ‘to do list’ makes it seem as if they’re woefully under-resourced. The pink blanket hasn’t even been forensically examined? There was no urgency yet it was discovered the first day!
JMO

 

[AddyFinch]

I wish they’d have itemized what they accomplished in the previous 2 1/2 months. Instead the lengthy ‘to do list’ makes it seem as if they’re woefully under-resourced. The pink blanket hasn’t even been forensically examined? There was no urgency yet it was discovered the first day!
JMO

Is this the same piece of pink fabric supposedly found by family or SARS? Or are they referring to the pink blanket noted on one of the trailer window that strangely was missing in subsequent photos of the home? I couldn’t tell if it was a drape or blanket/sheet? If that was the same fabric, wouldn’t that be a cause for speedy examination of the two fabrics? And what could that mean? If nothing, why was that window covering removed?whoops almost forgot to enter the msm proof
No pink window cover
Pink window cover
I suppose spring housecleaning could be a reason, or rolling bodies in it, or just a change of decor. Or sadly wanting to get rid of memories?

 

[AddyFinch]

I think AI can be useful when it's like 300 hours of video surveillance of a gas station (just a random example, not related to this case) and you get the AI to tell you which time periods have motion on the frame. I wouldn't want the AI trying to figure out which vehicles entering the gas station were relevant or anything like that.

Absolutely agree. They have valuable tools and the ability to deploy digital equipment to extract all sorts of hits for further examination by experts. Whether they have this expertise in Nova Scotia or it’s sent elsewhere in Canada is my best guess. Anything important or questionable would all be examined by a human as necessary.

 

[MistyWaters]

Is this the same piece of pink fabric supposedly found by family or SARS? Or are they referring to the pink blanket noted on one of the trailer window that strangely was missing in subsequent photos of the home? I couldn’t tell if it was a drape or blanket/sheet? If that was the same fabric, wouldn’t that be a cause for speedy examination of the two fabrics? And what could that mean? If nothing, why was that window covering removed?whoops almost forgot to enter the msm proof
No pink window cover
Pink window cover
I suppose spring housecleaning could be a reason, or rolling bodies in it, or just a change of decor. Or sadly wanting to get rid of memories?

It baffles me why materials (aka possible evidence) haven’t been tested yet and yes, that includes the piece of pink blanket reportedly seized on Landsdowne Road. Wouldn’t that be important to do asap in a missing children’s investigation rather than collecting and stockpiling for later examination? The RCMP have a National Forensic Lab located in Ottawa. Maybe it’s a task already completed and not one of 800 that’s not, a bit confusing the way the release is written.

https://rcmp.ca/en/nova-scotia/news/2025/07/intensive-investigation-disappearance-lilly-and-jack-sullivan-continues

• Forensic examination of materials located through ground and air searches in Lansdowne Station, including a pink blanket that officers seized on Lansdowne Rd.

 

[tlcya]

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/rcmp-forensic-examining-blanket-found-during-search-of-missing-n-s-children-1.7586162

The release said a pink blanket that was seized on Lansdowne Road during the search is being forensically examined. The children's stepfather, Daniel Martell, previously told CBC News that the blanket belongs to Lilly.
"Right now, there are more than 800 tasks associated to this investigation," Staff Sgt. Rob McCamon, the acting officer in charge of major crimes and and behavioural sciences.



"A tremendous amount of careful, deliberate investigative work is underway by people here at home and in other parts of Canada. Our collective efforts will continue every day until we determine with certainty the circumstances surrounding Lilly and Jack's disappearance."

so was this the same "piece" of blanket as was discussed at length being referred to in radio chatter as having been brought to searchers attention by an unnamed family member? Or is this a different whole blanket?

Very confusing. But I am glad it is being subjected to forensics.

 

[AddyFinch]

I would think just a simple eyeballing of the two (if they are different pieces of fabric) would suffice to depict if they are one and the same, and then further analysis. Thinking of what would that fabric contain, fibres, hair, dna, food, liquids, environmental contanminents, blood, soil, insects etc?? Guess the list is endless. Would a child's blanket contain the same elements as a child's bedroom drape? Did the fabric look so similar to the window covering that it was removed from window for forensics? Was the piece of fabric called a blanket given to SARS for dog scenting, or for matching another piece possibly found? Or was that piece of fabric just a one off random? If Lilly's blanket, how did a piece randomly land on Landsdowne Road away from home? Thrown out of bus? Fell off garbage truck? Carried there? Dragged by animal? Placed there?
I don't think there is anything to this piece of fabric, unless it matches that window covering, then it's highly suspicious. I find it very strange that window covering is missing in other photos.

 

[AddyFinch]

It baffles me why materials (aka possible evidence) haven’t been tested yet and yes, that includes the piece of pink blanket reportedly seized on Landsdowne Road.

I think it's been submitted to forensics already and possibly no results or it's been excluded.

 

[Sillybilly]

so was this the same "piece" of blanket as was discussed at length being referred to in radio chatter as having been brought to searchers attention by an unnamed family member? Or is this a different whole blanket?

Very confusing. But I am glad it is being subjected to forensics.

I'm wondering along those lines too. The first word that stood out to me was "seized", So different from found or discovered. I thought perhaps it was journalist's wording, but it is the wording contained in today's RCMP release.

 

[Lucy6226]

I'm wondering along those lines too. The first word that stood out to me was "seized", So different from found or discovered. I thought perhaps it was journalist's wording, but it is the wording contained in today's RCMP release.

And they are very careful how they word updates imo