CANADA Canada - Jack, 4 & Lilly Sullivan, 6, Vulnerable, wandered from home 10am, Gairloch Rd, Landsdowne Station, Pictou County, NS, 2 May 2025 #6

[Absoluterubbish]

Frustrating with the editing, because when you go to discuss something in it, and then they edit, it's no longer acceptable here. Time to enter Darrin Geddes (a family member from MBM side)..... fingers crossed he is still in the latest edited version of JM CBC interview....will check....yes at 1:27. He gives his impression of the work being done on case, I'm not discussing that here, but if anyone can find the non edited version he discusses DM.
Also in that same unedited video is a statement that JM makes re her neighbour. Does anyone remember it? It was just before the time frame when she is talking about staying out back and not liking the camera,
All possibly removed due to accusatory statements and potential litigation, and nothing to prove their statements. I posted a while back about whether he was safe to discuss or too risky.

She said that all their neighbours are friendly except one who just likes to stir the pot (paraphrasing)

 

[Absoluterubbish]

I agree with your speculations. Wouldn’t it have been more natural for DM to have called his mother or knocked on her door to see if the kids were with her? Going out into the yard and yelling for them seems like an effort to be made after you had checked your own house, his mothers, and the surrounding property. MOO

This is the one part that really sticks with me. Neither Daniel, M or J have ever said that D or M asked J if the kids were with her. That would be the FIRST thing you would do.

 

[Absoluterubbish]

I meant from the timeline given by janie as circa 20mins of her hearing the children ,Daniel calling thir names and the around 10 am arrival of RCMP which give a timeline of about 9.00am to 9.50 am when call was made if RCMP arrived at about 10am . This is three quarters of an hour . All I was saying was and I'm not implying it wasn't the right thing to do . Bloody sure it was I just thought it was a short time spent looking and calling by parents before they called

And my question was phrased " is it unusual "? not "it is unusual "

There are discrepancies in the timeline. Well alot but a big one is that on search or police radio the officer/searcher states the children have been missing since 8am. This is very very different to what D, M and J have said in their interviews. Maybe a mistake by whoever was on the radio that day but seems like a very important detail to get wrong when speaking to other LE / searchers at the very beginning of the search.

 

[AddyFinch]

She said that all their neighbours are friendly except one who just likes to stir the pot (paraphrasing)

YES!!!! You saw it. She also said (paraphrasing),that "one neighbour who liked to steal land was flying drones around all the time". Who would that be? Why would she think that? Is that where the drone images on SM are coming from? I wish the journalist had expanded on this, if I remember correctly she did say something to the effect "why would you think that"? Then JM said she "puts her head down, likes to stay in the back, doesn't like the camera"

 

[AddyFinch]

This is the one part that really sticks with me. Neither Daniel, M or J have ever said that D or M asked J if the kids were with her. That would be the FIRST thing you would do.

I agree, very strange. My first reaction would be, putting the toddler in granny's arms and jumping on the atv with DM, he drives I look. I think the first place kids go when they have a gran living on property is to go there... breakfast, tea, fun???

 

[AddyFinch]

There are discrepancies in the timeline. Well alot but a big one is that on search or police radio the officer/searcher states the children have been missing since 8am. This is very very different to what D, M and J have said in their interviews. Maybe a mistake by whoever was on the radio that day but seems like a very important detail to get wrong when speaking to other LE / searchers at the very beginning of the search.

Yes, and DM referenced a time dispute from the beginning, saying it was MBM making the mistake in time. I listened to the replay of the Emerg broadcast and they did state another time.

Too bad each forum doesn't have a pin page where videos, etc could be placed so posters can have a quick reference when trying to prove a statement.

 

[Absoluterubbish]

YES!!!! You saw it. She also said (paraphrasing),that "one neighbour who liked to steal land was flying drones around all the time". Who would that be? Why would she think that? Is that where the drone images on SM are coming from? I wish the journalist had expanded on this, if I remember correctly she did say something to the effect "why would you think that"? Then JM said she "puts her head down, likes to stay in the back, doesn't like the camera"

Im sure either her or D said that this same neighbour is the one who said there was a party at the property the night before and D said in his interview that this neighbour made it up to "keep the heat off themselves"
She did ask about the drone etc but I cant remember exactly what was said there.

 

[Absoluterubbish]

Yes, and DM referenced a time dispute from the beginning, saying it was MBM making the mistake in time. I listened to the replay of the Emerg broadcast and they did state another time.

Too bad each forum doesn't have a pin page where videos, etc could be placed so posters can have a quick reference when trying to prove a statement.

Yes I agree it is so hard to go back and find links a lot of the time in a case this big.

 

[su5ie]

There are discrepancies in the timeline. Well alot but a big one is that on search or police radio the officer/searcher states the children have been missing since 8am. This is very very different to what D, M and J have said in their interviews. Maybe a mistake by whoever was on the radio that day but seems like a very important detail to get wrong when speaking to other LE / searchers at the very beginning of the search.

Maybe there is two timelines . One 8am when lilly was seen and two 9.00 am when children were last heard . Realistically though only the seen can be beyond reasonable doubt I would imagine

 

[Absoluterubbish]

Maybe there is two timelines . One 8am when lilly was seen and two 9.00 am when children were last heard . Realistically though only the seen can be beyond reasonable doubt I would imagine

Yes I agree. But J is the one saying she heard them and my understanding from early interviews etc with DM is that she did not hear them that morning. It seems that's new information when she decided to come out and do the interview.

The 8am timeline seems far more plausible. If they "walked off" and the parents realised 20 mins later, they wouldn't have got far.

 

[su5ie]

I was just reading up about canada about its politics , relations with first nations etc and it's beautiful nature and cultural richness. Decided to take a break from the normal looking up news stories re the kids or doom scrolling as they say .

But I came across an article about bear populations in nova scotia and how the usual bear hunt didn't take place this year . I'm aware that if it was a bear attack in the yard there would have been screams and visible signs

But could the kids have spotted a bear cub and decided to follow , just curious

What Do We Know About Nova Scotia's Black Bear Population? | Nature Nova Scotia

by NatureNS Executive Director, Becky Parker Facebook Twitter Reddit Email Bears are a hot topic right now in Nova Scotia, in part, because the last few years have seen particularly high numbers of nuisance bear reports and, in another part, because of the recent decision from the province to not…

naturens.ca

Bears are Awake and on the Move

We are hearing reports that bears are waking from their winter hibernation and being spotted at various locations in Pictou County. Here is some information provided by the Nova Scotia Department of Lands and Forestry on black bears who are intelligent and naturally curious in their continuous...

munpict.ca

 

[musicaljoke]

Do posters think enough time has past to possibly think about sending in cadaver dogs . [IF ]the hypothesis by LE is that they wandered into the dense forest and got lost

Yes, for sure, except that the bush is not walkable right now. The underbrush is in full leaf which hides crevasses in the rocks, and trees are lying tangled on top of trees, damaged from the hurricane. It would be far too dangerous to send in cadaver dogs right now. Hopefully we get an open winter or an early spring which would make bush walking safer. I just returned from Truro today and saw the forest near this area. There is no way a human should be in the bush, and neither should a dog.

 

[su5ie]

Yes, for sure, except that the bush is not walkable right now. The underbrush is in full leaf which hides crevasses in the rocks, and trees are lying tangled on top of trees, damaged from the hurricane. It would be far too dangerous to send in cadaver dogs right now. Hopefully we get an open winter or an early spring which would make bush walking safer. I just returned from Truro today and saw the forest near this area. There is no way a human should be in the bush, and neither should a dog.

Oh great to have your prospective on what the forests actually look like.

I cannot begin to imagine what they would look like in reality from a still photo on my phone

 

[FansBlowing]

Re wild animals, cougars would be the most likely to not leave a trace because they grab their prey and run away with them.

 

[Absoluterubbish]

This whole thing is getting so infuriating.

Two little children are missing and the people who last saw them or know them are busy popping up in the comments of every YT discussion, having private message discussions with random people. Doing their first interview of any kind over 2 months AFTER the children were last seen or just outright not saying anything at all.

D's story has changed ten fold since the beginning. <modsnip: no source link for information posted as fact>

I wish he would spend less time on YT and more time speaking with the RCMP about the truth. It will come out and they will come down even harder on whoever is responsible given the deliberate misleading of the case from the outset.

IMO

 

[RandyMcDonald]

Oh great to have your prospective on what the forests actually look like.

I cannot begin to imagine what they would look like in reality from a still photo on my phone

I have said upthread that PEI, protected from Fiona by the landmass of Nova Scotia, was still a mess a year later. Even in downtown Charlottetown, there were plenty of downed trees; only ones that had to be removed, because they were blocking streets or maybe a sidewalk say, were removed.

I cannot imagine what the woods of rural Nova Scotia must look like.

 

[seasideForest]

Re wild animals, cougars would be the most likely to not leave a trace because they grab their prey and run away with them.

Grabbing two children at once might be rather difficult though, I mean for an animal that obviously doesn't have front hands to help.

It's also said they sometimes kill right away with a bite to the neck, I think, and then take the prey with them. (just going to say MOO to that one, cuz I remember it being mentioned in the case of a woman killed about 25 years ago by a cougar near Banff, but can't find quote off-hand). So the immediate killing might leave a trace?

Plus there aren't many cougars in Nova Scotia, they're more in B.C. and Alberta. But still the children could have been unlucky to run into one of the only ones in N.S.

MOO

 

[seasideForest]

Re wild animals, cougars would be the most likely to not leave a trace because they grab their prey and run away with them.

It seems cougars (and presumably other animals) can leave forensic traces though. Or IOW lack of forensic traces can prove it didn't happen. See Beyond Local: Forensics shows Banff cougar attack didn't happen where Parks Canada was able to show that an alleged cougar attack did not in fact take place.

It would be harder in the case of J and L to disprove because there was no exact place of disappearance known. Could still be that SAR and/or RCMP checked. MOO

 

[musicaljoke]

Grabbing two children at once might be rather difficult though, I mean for an animal that obviously doesn't have front hands to help.

It's also said they sometimes kill right away with a bite to the neck, I think, and then take the prey with them. (just going to say MOO to that one, cuz I remember it being mentioned in the case of a woman killed about 25 years ago by a cougar near Banff, but can't find quote off-hand). So the immediate killing might leave a trace?

Plus there aren't many cougars in Nova Scotia, they're more in B.C. and Alberta. But still the children could have been unlucky to run into one of the only ones in N.S.

MOO

A cougar would not likely eat a pink school bag.

 

[Absoluterubbish]

A cougar would not likely eat a pink school bag.

Or 2 children in their entirety