CANADA Canada - Jack, 4 & Lilly Sullivan, 6, Vulnerable, wandered from home 10am, Gairloch Rd, Landsdowne Station, Pictou County, NS, 2 May 2025 #7

[wvmoonangel]

In August RCMP was asked if cadaver dogs would be deployed and A spokesperson said any searches for human remains "will be based on information gathered through the ongoing investigation." "Pike said cadaver dogs are usually brought in when there is reason to believe decomposition has taken place and other possibilities". So my question is What have they found out/found that has made them decide to use the Cadaver dogs?



https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova...-to-search-for-missing-n-s-children-1.7638195

 

[Lalalacasbah]

In August RCMP was asked if cadaver dogs would be deployed and A spokesperson said any searches for human remains "will be based on information gathered through the ongoing investigation." "Pike said cadaver dogs are usually brought in when there is reason to believe decomposition has taken place and other possibilities". So my question is What have they found out/found that has made them decide to use the Cadaver dogs?



https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova...-to-search-for-missing-n-s-children-1.7638195

Maybe they are building a circumstantial case and for it to be airtight need to find bodies to support that so no wiggle room for a suspect to get off. I think it's always best to have a deceased body if bringing someone to trial for murder. I'm speculating of course, no idea.... MOO JMO

I am still hoping for accidental wandering off of the children. I hope the cadaver dogs find something to bring answers for all involved.

 

[AndrewM71]

In August RCMP was asked if cadaver dogs would be deployed and A spokesperson said any searches for human remains "will be based on information gathered through the ongoing investigation." "Pike said cadaver dogs are usually brought in when there is reason to believe decomposition has taken place and other possibilities". So my question is What have they found out/found that has made them decide to use the Cadaver dogs?



https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova...-to-search-for-missing-n-s-children-1.7638195

It could be that they haven’t found any evidence that is contrary to the theory that they wandered off.

I think if they had serious information on a location they would be out there immediately, and without an announcement.

 

[musicaljoke]

I’m aware. Part of my property is forested and I’m now familiar with the Lansdowne area.

I believe they have a brief window of calm, dry weather with no hurricanes on the horizon to search safely, imo.

Images of Hurricane Juan's Aftermath | novascotia.ca

 

[Lexiintoronto]

Images of Hurricane Juan's Aftermath | novascotia.ca

I live in Nova Scotia. I’m familiar with the areas hit especially hard by hurricanes in the last few years.

 

[Twistinginthewind]

TY

That didn’t occur to me that if they were killed that the person or persons involved may interfere with the search.

I’m wondering if warrants are involved. We have had cases where the police give a soft warning before executing a warrant. Even if they’re completely not involved in a crime, some people do not want to cooperate with police requests or warrants.

I’m guessing they may be monitoring some people and may be looking to see how they react to the news of the upcoming search. (Speculation.)

In terms of safety concerns during new searches with cadaver dogs:

That is one possibility, if they were killed.

There are others as well I can think of.

Such as people who may have strong feelings about the investigation taking its course in the way that it has so far, and potentially acting on them by lashing out at anyone involved.

JMO

 

[teeby]

It seems to me that not using cadaver dogs until now suggests that there isn't (or at least wasn't) significant evidence that the parents were involved. If you thought they might have killed them and disposed of their bodies, you'd probably have gotten the cadaver dogs through the home and vehicles in the first few days.

 

[MistyWaters]

It seems to me that not using cadaver dogs until now suggests that there isn't (or at least wasn't) significant evidence that the parents were involved. If you thought they might have killed them and disposed of their bodies, you'd probably have gotten the cadaver dogs through the home and vehicles in the first few days.

That is what it seems the RCMP are suggesting. Using cadaver dogs has risen to the next step of the missing persons investigation considering the searches were unsuccessful the first time around. They’ve found nothing to suggest homicides occurred.

Cadaver dogs to begin searching for missing Nova Scotia children

RCMP say cadaver dogs will begin searching for two children who went missing in rural northeastern Nova Scotia in May, a step the children’s grandmother says should have happened weeks ago.

www.ctvnews.ca

“He stressed there was “nothing definitive to support the children are deceased.”

Police have already conducted multiple searches covering about 8.5 square kilometres in the heavily wooded areas near the children’s home, assisted by ground search teams and local volunteers. Tremblay said previous searches included dogs that could pick up the scent of a living person, or someone who had recently died.

He called the previous searches thorough, but added that police are now at the stage where they need to consider whether they missed something and that’s where dogs that are specialized in finding the scent of human remains come in.”

 

[Snoop Sister]

As a Canadian, I have followed this case from the beginning. I am elated to read law enforcement is finally going to utilize cadaver dogs. This is something I feel needed to be done a few months back.

 

[Panniniclaus]

Long overdue

 

[musicaljoke]

I live in Nova Scotia. I’m familiar with the areas hit especially hard by hurricanes in the last few years.

My daughter lives in that area, so we visit often. I thought that I might take a few steps into the bush to get some of my own photos, but decided it was too dangerous.

 

[musicaljoke]

Long overdue

From early August until just last week, Pictor County was under a woods restriction and no one was allowed into the bush.

 

[Twistinginthewind]

Praying for someone to find them during the new searches, so they can be laid to rest with the reverence they should have, if they perished wandering from their home that morning.

And for the grieving and healing to be able to begin.

On so many fronts, and for so many people, especially their loved ones.

And everyone with RCMP who have dedicated themselves wholeheartedly to finding them.

Though it's not what anyone wants, for them to be found not alive.

Lilly and Jack were so full of life and at such a tender, sweet and innocent age, full of promise... it's heartbreaking if they have perished.

I can't get it out of my mind that DM said he heard screaming during the initial search for them.

MOO

 

[Andreee]

It seems to me that not using cadaver dogs until now suggests that there isn't (or at least wasn't) significant evidence that the parents were involved. If you thought they might have killed them and disposed of their bodies, you'd probably have gotten the cadaver dogs through the home and vehicles in the first few days.

I have to wonder why cadaver dogs weren't brought out sooner!? If it had been a loved one of mine, and investigators hadn't done so early on, I would try to raise funds on my own to get that done privately.

 

[abanddb123]

I just read in the article above that they have brought cadaver dogs there before. They brought dogs in for alive people and people who have died recently. If the children have been dead this whole time, it still hasn't been very long. I don't know the environment there, but our chemicals we release after death lingers. A good cadaver dog will find it. I'm hoping they have new info of where these children are.

 

[abanddb123]

I guess what I'm trying say is, the area is so large to search, I think they just haven't found the spot yet.

 

[Emerald1328]

I’ve been following this one from the sidelines but had to comment that I’m very glad to hear they are finally bringing cadaver dogs in.

I do think it’s surprising that the police hadn’t used cadaver dogs yet. Even if they didn’t feel the kids wandered off and instead thought that someone deliberately disappeared them, who’s to say that person didn’t then dispose of them in the woods? Whether by a stranger or someone familiar, wouldn’t the police think the most likely disposal location would be near the place where harm had likely come to them?

 

[Serononin]

I have to wonder why cadaver dogs weren't brought out sooner!? If it had been a loved one of mine, and investigators hadn't done so early on, I would try to raise funds on my own to get that done privately.

To be fair, the article linked a few posts ago says there are fewer than 10 cadaver dogs in the whole of Canada, and they're having to bring these dogs to NS from BC. That's a big undertaking that probably would've been hard to justify early in the investigation, when they had no way of knowing that they weren't about to find definitive evidence of the children being somewhere other than the woods

 

[musicaljoke]

To be fair, the article linked a few posts ago says there are fewer than 10 cadaver dogs in the whole of Canada, and they're having to bring these dogs to NS from BC. That's a big undertaking that probably would've been hard to justify early in the investigation, when they had no way of knowing that they weren't about to find definitive evidence of the children being somewhere other than the woods

Yes, the flying distance is around 4500 kms, (3000 miles). I wonder why we have so few cadaver dogs in Canada. Wouldn't it be good if it was because there is just no work for them.

 

[Serononin]

Yes, the flying distance is around 4500 kms, (3000 miles). I wonder why we have so few cadaver dogs in Canada. Wouldn't it be good if it was because there is just no work for them.

Out of curiosity, I looked up how many cadaver dogs there are here in the UK, and the most recent source I could find (albeit from ten years ago) said there were 70. Seems odd that we would have so many more when Canada is so much bigger!