CANADA Canada - Jack, 4 & Lilly Sullivan, 6, Vulnerable, wandered from home 10am, Gairloch Rd, Landsdowne Station, Pictou County, NS, 2 May 2025 #7

  • #461
Hardly a Freudian slip, as he was quite emphatic about it. Later in the same interview he restated his belief with respect to the 2 acres where he resided so that’s what I think he was referring to. But he was right on with what he said about his every word and gesture getting analyzed.
I have always found him to sound seemingly honest, almost earnest and candid too however, I have been duped before so I am not closing that door yet.

A big part of me doesn't suspect him but then there's some things where I think it's hinky. It's not even him I'd suspect first but maybe someone he knows or he's close to as a reason he might lie, defer or state things with such conviction.

They say (not sure who, psychologists/criminologists?) there is usually an element of truth when people tell lies. I think maybe it makes it easier for them to believe it themselves.

I am hoping neither MBM or DM are involved. If foul play I still think it's through association, relation, local to the area, had an interaction with the family, etc. MOO JMO
 
  • #462
But even if he knows he didn't do anything wrong, he can't be certain the dogs will find nothing. We've heard over and over how difficult the terrain is to search, so there's no way he looked in every nook and cranny and can be 100% certain that the children are not in the search areas.

If his theory is still that the kids got out and wandered into the woods and got lost, that's even more reason for him not to be so certain the dogs will find nothing.

Am I missing something?
Sorry if that wasn't clear, my initial thought was IF he was involved for him to say with such conviction they won't be found - I was thinking because he took them somewhere far away far from the search areas.

They wouldn't find them because they are nowhere near as one might put them as far away from the property as possible in the amount of time that allowed. JMO MOO
 
  • #463
Thank you for the further explanation. I agree that the question should have been included.

On the other hand, I am having a hard time coming up with a question that would have elicited such an adamant statement that the dogs will find nothing.

And as I said before, if he did nothing wrong there's still no way he can be 100% sure that the kids' remains aren't out there somewhere, be it by someone who did do something wrong or by the kids wandering off and succumbing.

I mean if he's 100% sure they're not on his property, then he must 100% think they were abducted. Which is what he said in the beginning. But then why is he happy about the cadaver dogs being brought in? if they're not going to find anything? unless he thinks they could be on a neighbour's property?

I'm confused.
 
  • #464
I mean if he's 100% sure they're not on his property, then he must 100% think they were abducted. Which is what he said in the beginning. But then why is he happy about the cadaver dogs being brought in? if they're not going to find anything? unless he thinks they could be on a neighbour's property?

I'm confused.
Maybe because it's been taken seriously?
 
  • #465
To be fair, I can understand him being confident that the children won't be found on the property given how thoroughly the police searched it early on. I do still feel that he comes across as more interested in proclaiming his own innocence than in actually finding out what happened to the children, but at the same time I can understand why he'd be feeling defensive what with all the suspicion.

The more time passes without any apparent evidence of foul play being found, the more I'm inclined to believe that they really did just wander off, although the more recent developments in the Émile Soleil case do stop me from thinking that wandering is the *only* possibility at this point.

I can only hope that it won't be long now before we hear that they've been found 🤞🏻
 
  • #466
Answering questions about why these dogs are being brought in now instead of earlier, Pike responded:

“We deploy dogs when they’re best suited to the information or the investigation details that we have.”

Tremblay added: “What’s important to remember is that at this time, we don’t have any definitive information to support that the children are deceased, but we have to keep our minds open and look at all the investigative avenues.”
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I don’t see these comments as contradictory, not necessarily.

The first part - “ we deploy dogs when they’re best suited to the information” - what is that information? A belief that the children are dead. If not, why else would they choose now to bring in cadaver dogs?
But there is a difference between a belief that the children are dead and knowledge that the children are dead.
If I recall correctly, over 50 people have been interviewed in this case. When making statements, these interviewees lock in their story, where they were, when, what they were doing, who they were with.
Investigators have also combed through phones, trail cameras footage, etc. I believe it’s possible they’ve found a discrepancy in someone’s story. For example, someone said they were at work, or asleep, or at home watching tv, but they were actually seen on trail cam footage miles away, or their cell phone pinged in a particular area. If their story is untruthful, why would they be lying? But unless there’s footage of said individual with the kids, or carrying their little bodies, LE can honestly say, “we don’t have any definitive information to support that the children are deceased”. At this point, they would only know, someone was untruthful about their whereabouts at the time of the children’s disappearance. And, these examples of cell phone pings or trail cam footage could indicate an area to potentially search with cadaver dogs.

IMO, cadaver dogs are now being employed to follow up on some sort of information, however weak, and not just because they can’t think of anything else to do.
Just imo
 
  • #467
Someone in the thread quoted an article that said part of a pink blanket was found in bagged trash. And that the rest of it was found (1km away?) In the forest. Is there any tentative explanation for that? Sorry I haven't followed the case very carefully.
 
  • #468
I mean if he's 100% sure they're not on his property, then he must 100% think they were abducted. Which is what he said in the beginning. But then why is he happy about the cadaver dogs being brought in? if they're not going to find anything? unless he thinks they could be on a neighbour's property?

I'm confused.

The area searched was 6.5 square km or about 4 square miles. I don’t recall it reported who owned the land but I’d be surprised if it all belonged to Daniel. Early on iirc his mother owned the mobile home property. But wandering children probably wouldn’t be restricted by property boundaries so neither would the search for them. JMO
 
  • #469
Someone in the thread quoted an article that said part of a pink blanket was found in bagged trash. And that the rest of it was found (1km away?) In the forest. Is there any tentative explanation for that? Sorry I haven't followed the case very carefully.
So it was reported that the blanket was Lilly's, but she didn't want it any more, so DM tore the blanket in half and repurposed one piece as a draft blocker. It was thrown away once the weather got warmer (about a week before the children went missing), so that was the piece that was found in the trash. I'm not sure where the other half was kept or whether it was used for anything prior to its being found in the woods
 
  • #470
Do we know, has the cadaver dog search actually begun?
 
  • #471
Someone in the thread quoted an article that said part of a pink blanket was found in bagged trash. And that the rest of it was found (1km away?) In the forest. Is there any tentative explanation for that? Sorry I haven't followed the case very carefully.

The blanket had been used throughout the winter to stop the draft in a door. It wasn't the daughter's precious blanket, but a doll blanket that wasn't being used by the kids. Because the weather was warming, the blanket was recently removed from the door and tossed in the garbage. This occurred prior to the kids disappearance. I am assuming that the blanket had been torn into pieces to stuff into cracks in the door frame where drafts were coming through.

There has been no explanation for how a piece of it was found far from home. It may or may not be relevant. Perhaps a crow picked it out of the trash to use as nesting material. Or maybe the kids carried it there when they were lost in the forest.
 
  • #472
The blanket had been used throughout the winter to stop the draft in a door. It wasn't the daughter's precious blanket, but a doll blanket that wasn't being used by the kids. Because the weather was warming, the blanket was recently removed from the door and tossed in the garbage. This occurred prior to the kids disappearance. I am assuming that the blanket had been torn into pieces to stuff into cracks in the door frame where drafts were coming through.

There has been no explanation for how a piece of it was found far from home. It may or may not be relevant. Perhaps a crow picked it out of the trash to use as nesting material. Or maybe the kids carried it there when they were lost in the forest.
Not that this really makes a difference, but since the article that reported it was a bit confusingly worded - I'm fairly certain it wasn't a doll blanket, it was a regular blanket from the brand LOL Doll. So it's possible that the piece that was found was fairly big, which somewhat changes the possibilities of how it came to be there (like, if it was half the blanket or possibly even more, maybe the kids wanted to use it to make a fort in the woods?)
 
  • #473
I believe something happened to them but the doll blanket explanation seems like a normal life thing
 
  • #474
dbm
 
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  • #475
Answering questions about why these dogs are being brought in now instead of earlier, Pike responded:

“We deploy dogs when they’re best suited to the information or the investigation details that we have.”

Tremblay added: “What’s important to remember is that at this time, we don’t have any definitive information to support that the children are deceased, but we have to keep our minds open and look at all the investigative avenues.”
***
I don’t see these comments as contradictory, not necessarily.

The first part - “ we deploy dogs when they’re best suited to the information” - what is that information? A belief that the children are dead. If not, why else would they choose now to bring in cadaver dogs?
But there is a difference between a belief that the children are dead and knowledge that the children are dead.
If I recall correctly, over 50 people have been interviewed in this case. When making statements, these interviewees lock in their story, where they were, when, what they were doing, who they were with.
Investigators have also combed through phones, trail cameras footage, etc. I believe it’s possible they’ve found a discrepancy in someone’s story. For example, someone said they were at work, or asleep, or at home watching tv, but they were actually seen on trail cam footage miles away, or their cell phone pinged in a particular area. If their story is untruthful, why would they be lying? But unless there’s footage of said individual with the kids, or carrying their little bodies, LE can honestly say, “we don’t have any definitive information to support that the children are deceased”. At this point, they would only know, someone was untruthful about their whereabouts at the time of the children’s disappearance. And, these examples of cell phone pings or trail cam footage could indicate an area to potentially search with cadaver dogs.

IMO, cadaver dogs are now being employed to follow up on some sort of information, however weak, and not just because they can’t think of anything else to do.
Just imo

not sure if this was a reply to me but I was commenting on Daniel's statement as being contradictory, not the police - ITA with all you've said here
 
  • #476
Not that this really makes a difference, but since the article that reported it was a bit confusingly worded - I'm fairly certain it wasn't a doll blanket, it was a regular blanket from the brand LOL Doll. So it's possible that the piece that was found was fairly big, which somewhat changes the possibilities of how it came to be there (like, if it was half the blanket or possibly even more, maybe the kids wanted to use it to make a fort in the woods?)

oh that's interesting cause I've been picturing a doll-size blanket this whole time
 
  • #477
Do we know, has the cadaver dog search actually begun?

No LE said they wouldn’t be disclosing when or where the searches will be taking place.
 
  • #478
not sure if this was a reply to me but I was commenting on Daniel's statement as being contradictory, not the police - ITA with all you've said here
I was responding to more than one comment, which is why I didn’t quote anyone.
I agree with you, I find DM’s statement contradictory.
IMHO
 
  • #479
I've been reading the most recent thread on Travis Decker, whose remains were found 0.74 miles from the campground where his daughters were. It took 3 months of a full scale manhunt to find him. There's a lot of more elevation changes in that terrain, but it's proof that it's easy to miss remains no matter how close they are. And he was a fully grown man wearing a bright green shirt!
 
  • #480

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