CANADA Canada - Jack, 4 & Lilly Sullivan, 6, Vulnerable, wandered from home 10am, Gairloch Rd, Landsdowne Station, Pictou County, NS, 2 May 2025 #7

[Lalalacasbah]

Something abut DM describing himself jumping up and surveying ditches and culvert, into the water looking, checking over the rivers and streams for them has always stuck in my mind. The way he volunteered it, almost in a braggy way describing his heroic efforts. it struck me as odd, set my hairs up. JMO

RSBM: they say there's always an element of truth in lies! I definitely think that statement could be a clue if he did something.

 

[Lalalacasbah]

I think it is a fallacy to believe only highly intelligent people can plan or get away with murder, or that only dumb people get caught. I’d say Douglas Garland was highly intelligent yet he was caught. Robert Pickton - not a high IQ but got away with many murders for a long time before he was caught.
Was Bruce MacArthur smart because he got away with it for years, or dumb because he was eventually caught?
I think, if we look at many murders, we would see a mix of both smart and dumb folks caught for their crime.
In this case, how smart would someone need to be, hypothetically, to strangle a child and dispose of their body in a large barely inhabited forest area where they’ve lived all their life, while owning an all terrain vehicle? How much incriminating evidence might by left behind?
IMO

Yes very true, of course...it's not black and white. Lots of killers take a long time to get arrested (especially serial killers) and aren't always organized, efficient or smart.

But for some reason, I'm not sure why I'm thinking luck must be involved if DM did anything as LE were on the scene very soon after the call and all over everyone and the environment as much as they could with no warrant.

I would think any seasoned LE wouldn't immediately think 'wandering' as the only cause of two children missing. I would think right off the bat they'd be a sponge when they arrived the first crucial hours/days. When children or a spouse go missing - spouses and parents are #1 suspects.

Maybe it's the timelines and things seemed to happen fast here? ie: children missing, LE on the scene, interviewing, likely looking at CCTV in the area, etc. And with no arrest like some other cases similar (non-serial killers) where an arrest follows the crime in a fairly quick manner - that could be it or what's bugging me. MOO

 

[Lalalacasbah]

What is new in all of this is the sexual assault allegation. This is the first we've heard of anything pertaining to that. That can be a serious charge and can potentially result in DM being registered as a sex offender. So he has to be taking that one seriously.

Strange move by RCMP, in my opinion. Some are saying, "oh, the pressure is now on!" But it seems to me the RCMP can now count on zero cooperation from DM going forward.

And they let him go..... so he didn't cave if there was pressure.

Maybe now they're surveilling him closely to watch any next moves? Moving any potential evidence, tipping someone off if he had help, going back to a dump site if there is one, re-tracing his steps if paranoia sets in (assuming he did something) etc.

 

[katydid23]

After the store videos did anyone other than Mom & Boyfriend physically view them at home? Did they make it home.

The only corroboration I can think of, is supposedly, DM's mom said she thinks she heard the kids playing in the yard that morning? Do I have that right?

Not that it would be ironclad evidence anyway. It's worded in a way that gives her wiggle room if she needs it.

But we didn't hear her say that she engaged with them, face to face, for example.

 

[katydid23]

What is new in all of this is the sexual assault allegation. This is the first we've heard of anything pertaining to that. That can be a serious charge and can potentially result in DM being registered as a sex offender. So he has to be taking that one seriously.

Strange move by RCMP, in my opinion. Some are saying, "oh, the pressure is now on!" But it seems to me the RCMP can now count on zero cooperation from DM going forward.

I think they probably got all of the cooperation they needed from DM already. They definitely let him talk, freely, for quite awhile.
And he came in for interviews and did at least one polygraph.

So I think they might have decided they got all the cooperation they needed from him because he is not coming off of his story?

 

[Serononin]

You could be right,there are cases out there where the criminal themselves had inserted themselves into the investigations to look like they are truly helping but in reality they are staying close to know what's going on with the investigation. The "Soham Murders Investigation" is a prime example of it happening.

I remember my secondary school drama teacher actually using an interview Ian Huntley did as an example when she was talking to us about deceptive 'characters' and ulterior motives

 

[Serononin]

After the store videos did anyone other than Mom & Boyfriend physically view them at home? Did they make it home.

They apparently had a video call with MBM's mother on the afternoon of the 1st, but I don't remember whether it was said that call happened after they got home from New Glasgow or while they were still in the car

 

[katydid23]

Yes very true, of course...it's not black and white. Lots of killers take a long time to get arrested (especially serial killers) and aren't always organized, efficient or smart.

But for some reason, I'm not sure why I'm thinking luck must be involved if DM did anything as LE were on the scene very soon after the call and all over everyone and the environment as much as they could with no warrant.

LE was there right after the 911 call, but maybe the disappearance happened way earlier than they reported it?

I would think any seasoned LE wouldn't immediately think 'wandering' as the only cause of two children missing. I would think right off the bat they'd be a sponge when they arrived the first crucial hours/days. When children or a spouse go missing - spouses and parents are #1 suspects.

True. But the problem is, especially in a rural area with a large space to search, and a small police department, the police need to immediately begin large scale search because time is running short.

So the first focus has to be to assume they wandered off innocently. All the resources and manpower has to go towards that. Then later they can double back and do a deeper dive on the residence and neighbours, etc.

Maybe it's the timelines and things seemed to happen fast here? ie: children missing, LE on the scene, interviewing, likely looking at CCTV in the area, etc. And with no arrest like some other cases similar (non-serial killers) where an arrest follows the crime in a fairly quick manner - that could be it or what's bugging me. MOO

 

[libraryg]

Wonder is the adult Malehya and she is finding her voice

I hit the escape key as it started to load, which circumvented the pay wall.
"The alleged crimes took place between Sept. 1, 2024, and March 30, 2025, in Lansdowne, N.S., according to court documents."


I believe this could well be true.

 

[Fabled Automatic]

Something abut DM describing himself jumping up and surveying ditches and culvert, into the water looking, checking over the rivers and streams for them has always stuck in my mind. The way he volunteered it, almost in a braggy way describing his heroic efforts. it struck me as odd, set my hairs up. JMO

Same! That he said he "started checking culverts" has stuck in my mind every single time I consider this case since day one. Something about it just seemed strange.

 

[MistyWaters]

I hit the escape key as it started to load, which circumvented the pay wall.
"The alleged crimes took place between Sept. 1, 2024, and March 30, 2025, in Lansdowne, N.S., according to court documents."


I believe this could well be true.

CTV has the date of December 1, 2024 and a very specific location. I’ve no idea why the referenced court documents vary.

Stepfather of missing Sullivan children charged with assault, forcible confinement: N.S. RCMP

The stepfather of Lily and Jack Sullivan, who have been missing from their Lansdowne Station, N.S., home since last May, has been charged with assault, forcible confinement and sexual assault.

www.ctvnews.ca

Court documents say the victim was a female and the alleged incidents occurred on Gairloch Road in Lansdowne on Dec. 1, 2024 – about six months before the children vanished from their home.

 

[TMich6811]

Same! That he said he "started checking culverts" has stuck in my mind every single time I consider this case since day one. Something about it just seemed strange.

And made sure to discuss his gps

 

[su5ie]

And made sure to discuss his gps

From day 1 he was laying down tracks . I always felt it strange he never stated he missed the children nor do I recall him ever thanking the officers or sars for all they are doing It was always about what he was doing and how cooperative he was being , his story was too detailed imo

Those fake crying videos will always spring to mind when I think did he actually care about lilly and jack or did he just covet and wish to possess their mother

 

[Orbweaver]

DM’s mom might have a continuous flow VAD that eliminates the pulse which would make a polygraph impossible. Not super relevant to the case but it’s interesting how those technologies interact.

Continuous Flow VAD