NY - UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson fatally shot in Midtown. #10 *Arrest*

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MIDTOWN, Manhattan (PIX11) – The CEO of UnitedHealthcare was killed in a Midtown shooting Wednesday morning, sources told PIX11 News.

Brian Thompson, 50, was shot just before 7 a.m. near a hotel on 54th Street between 6th and 7th Avenues, sources said. Video posted to Citizen showed police tape on the Midtown street as police arrived at the scene.

He was rushed to an area hospital and later died. Thompson was in New York City for an investors meeting at a Hilton hotel, according to sources.


The shooting is being investigated as a possibly targeted hit, sources said.


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So the PI didn't recognize LM in the photos all over msm? moo


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So the PI didn't recognize LM in the photos all over msm? moo


12/13/2024

Asked if he was in contact with family, Mangione said "until recently."

Full Context:
Asked by the judge if he would like a public defender or retain private counsel on Monday, Mangione asked if he could answer that question at a future date. He declared that he had no drug or mental health history that the court should be aware of, and denied he was in possession of $8,000 cash plus additional foreign currency at the time of his arrest.

Asked if he was in contact with family, Mangione said "until recently."




So between his missing persons report and his arrest he implies he was in contact with someone. IMO

I don’t know that a conclusion can be reached yet on how this played out. Time will shed light on it.
 
I don’t think the fact he was wearing a bright blue suit jacket means anything, just means he is a casual dresser. Steve Jobs used to wear jeans and long sleeved t shirts to give his presentations, many business people are casual dressers
 
Top ten companies by market cap - UHC is not on the list (and hasn't been for the past 5+ years). Neither is Walmart. LM's information is old and probably comes from books he read (that are 10+ years old).
 

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I think it's unfortunate that there's a bit of misinformation on this thread which might be clouding the issue or not helping in our understanding of it.

"After he had surgery, he claimed that he was fully recovered in 8 days (not believable)" - I believe he claimed that he was pain-free, which is subjective and probably due to taking medication post-operatively any pain may have been masked, which is relatively common. 10ofRods wrote a helpful post about how directly after surgery there may be a large reduction in pain which may or may not be representative of the real situation long-term.

We haven't seen anything to state that he was in pain following the surgery, that pain was a motivation for him or anything of the like. <modsnip> We don't know if he was in pain or not at the point of the shooting. We don't know if surgery completely fixed the issue or not. We have no idea.

As far as someone taking a beginner surfing lesson and then having a problem, I don't think that's necessarily foreseeable. With a lot of conditions you're encouraged to stay active (e.g. with this one too, for example, keep attempting to do hills and strengthen the core and other parts of the body). It is incredibly hard to be a young, active person surrounded by friends who are able to do things you love and to sit out from them.

"he continued to participate in sports that ultimately led to a physical disability" - the problem is that anything could have set that off - like stepping on a piece of paper. It appears that his problem wasn't anywhere near as severe prior to the surfing incident (he mainly describes it as a bad ache) so he may well have thought it was fine to do that.

<modsnip> The assumption that someone is fine because they don't grimace, the assumption that someone is fine or pain-free because they're walking down the street. It just doesn't work like that. At all. We don't even know if this individual was even in pain in the footage we've seen yet there are so many comments about it and how he shouldn't be able to do this or that.

"I am still not buying the X-RAY Photo is the true “BACK story” to this situation.
But hey, “Poor Poor Luigi’s Back”
I call BS and I bet he loved the attention he got in person and online with his pity stories."
- Anyone who has screws in their back like that and the image seen on the x-ray which fits in with the story described so presumably is of his body, is likely to have experienced some pain. I don't get that vibe from the comments at all if we're talking about his indepth Reddit posts that discuss it. Again, it's comments like these that affect people greatly who are suffering with chronic pain and may mean they never speak out about it.

What he did was atrocious - you don't shoot someone because you disagree with them - but I think it's really important to try to understand why this happened and to keep things as accurate as possible. As far as I've seen his manifesto, if that's even accurate, doesn't mention pain as a motivation. In fact I haven't seen anything that mentions it in relation to the shooting.

You can feel empathy for a young man dealing with all of this (being laid off and then dealing with a spinal injury at that point - I don't know many people who wouldn't feel empathy for someone in that situation) AND have empathy for Brian Thompson and know what was done was completely wrong. It's not one or the other. <modsnip> Thanks for reading.
 
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So the PI didn't recognize LM in the photos all over msm? moo


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I don’t think we know that they DIDN’T.
 
So the PI didn't recognize LM in the photos all over msm? moo


12/13/2024
Yeah I might ask for a refund on that.
 
So the PI didn't recognize LM in the photos all over msm? moo


12/13/2024
Maybe the PIs focus was Cali and Hawaii
 
Top ten companies by market cap - UHC is not on the list (and hasn't been for the past 5+ years). Neither is Walmart. LM's information is old and probably comes from books he read (that are 10+ years old).
I think in terms of yearly revenue they're something like #4.
$400+ billion taken in last year.
 
Yeah I might ask for a refund on that.
If they needed a PI, does that mean he had his own health insurance, phone plan, no connected accounts with his family of any kind? If he truly was in CA, staying in a property where he had his own lease, did they have an address for him to start? Families are usually interconnected, even if we would prefer not to be.
 
So the PI didn't recognize LM in the photos all over msm? moo
It wouldn't surprise me all that much. I always thought the photos LE released looked like different people. I even thought one looked very feminine. Now, when I look at the additional images and the ones from his former life, I still think I'd have a hard time recognizing him because he looks different from different angles.
 
I don’t think the fact he was wearing a bright blue suit jacket means anything, just means he is a casual dresser. Steve Jobs used to wear jeans and long sleeved t shirts to give his presentations, many business people are casual dressers
I agree. At least in the UK, business dress has become much less formal since the pandemic. Even (London) City lawyers might keep a suit in the office and change into it for high level meetings with clients but in the office it's mostly jeans and shirts/t-shirts/sweatshirts. I've seen several CEOs and CFOs give corporate presentations to institutional investors in recent years in business casual dress.
 
Why LM is only being charged with 2nd degree murder.

"Given the image of the homicide captured on surveillance video – a dark-hooded figure with a gray backpack fatally shooting the executive in the back from several feet away – the case may seem like an obvious candidate for an even more severe charge.
But under New York law, a first-degree murder charge only applies to a narrow list of aggravating circumstances, including when the victim is a judge, a police officer or a first responder, or when the killing involves a murder-for-hire or an intent to commit terrorism, legal experts told CNN."


Charges might be upgraded to 1st degree charges if LE can prove terrorism

"If it appears, for instance, the suspect had planned the killing for a while, evidence may point to a terrorism angle that could merit a bump-up to a first-degree murder charge in New York, said David Shapiro, a lecturer at the John Jay College of Criminal Justice.

“Terrorism is defined, basically, as creating, intimidating the civilian population or influencing a government unit to act in a certain way,” Shapiro told CNN."


JMO
 
A fairly deep dive from the WSJ here:

It was business as usual for LM's parents in the days prior to his arrest. His mom lunched with friends near Baltimore's waterfront on Saturday, and the next afternoon she and his father attended a ceremony for one of her brothers. Less than a day later they received the news that he had been arrested.

Very big close family, and all of the father's siblings work in the family business (nursing home chain and golf clubs).

His parents live fairly modestly considering their wealth (house is 2 million). "You would not know they have money, they never flaunt anything," said one acquaintance.

Indications he had been distancing himself from his family for at least a year. They searched for him for 6-8 months, to no avail. One person interviewed said his mom would have moved mountains to find him.

LM didn't have United Health, nor did his mother (like that fake manifesto had claimed).

 
<modsnip: Quoted post was removed> ...I am skeptical of these crumbs of info LM left behind while planning a murder. He wasn’t fully open to anyone in his life recently or perhaps for years. Most of his ramblings are from an Internet forum or a semi friend who he ghosted. JMO
 
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So between his missing persons report and his arrest he implies he was in contact with someone. IMO

I don’t know that a conclusion can be reached yet on how this played out. Time will shed light on it.
^snipped

From the article:
Asked if he was in contact with family, Mangione said "until recently."


I read it as yes, he had been in contact with his family “until recently”, so that currently he has not been.

Am I interpreting it incorrectly?

One thing, the word “recently” is vague, not being a specific length of time. We heard he seemed to go silent to family and friends since July of this year. Is that recent to Luigi’s thinking?

Moo
 
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