NY - UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson fatally shot in Midtown. #10 *Arrest*

[Shekkiec]

It’s interesting imo that no school shooters have been charged with terroristic acts. The manifesto was released by the police so how would the murderius intentions ever been known unless he was caught?

 

[Sundog]

Per CNN
No family or friends have visited him while incarcerated….only attorneys

LM may have communicated to his family (either directly or through his attorney) that he didn't want them to visit him while incarcerated.

It's also possible they are talking by phone, and waiting to see him in person when he gets to New York. Their presence in Altoona, a small town, would not allow them any privacy at all, unlike NYC.

 

[mrstfs]

It’s interesting imo that no school shooters have been charged with terroristic acts. The manifesto was released by the police so how would the murderius intentions ever been known unless he was caught?

The words on the bullets perhaps.

 

[NuttMegg]

It’s interesting imo that no school shooters have been charged with terroristic acts. The manifesto was released by the police so how would the murderius intentions ever been known unless he was caught?

Ain't that the truth. He didn't release the manifesto, and he didn't even call it that, what was it, 2-3 paragraphs? Also, he's never said that he did it because of his back, unless I missed that. And, he used a home made weapon that couldn't shoot 2 bullets in a row.

These other young men with their war weapons kill so many little kids. Yet the official response seems to be "we need more mental health services", not "these school shooters are terrorists"!

 

[MassGuy]

It’s interesting imo that no school shooters have been charged with terroristic acts. The manifesto was released by the police so how would the murderius intentions ever been known unless he was caught?

Because those crimes aren't typically politically or religiously motivated; they're not designed to intimidate or coerce the public into doing something. Those killers, if they survive, are charged with first degree murder. They never see the light of day, unless they are a juvenile.

The only way they could have charged this guy with first degree murder under New York law, was to file this particular charge. Despite being the clearest example of premeditated murder that you can possibly have, they could have otherwise only charged him with second degree murder.

 

[NuttMegg]

The words on the bullets perhaps.

If he were committing terrorism he would have waited, what, an hour and a half and taken out the whole crew at the mtg. But as I said, I'm not griping about the "terrorism" charges, because everyone affected by these health care people will get even more angry at how eyerolling it is.

 

[acutename]

Per CNN
No family or friends have visited him while incarcerated….only attorneys

maybe it has not been possible to schedule it. It is complicated:

The following visiting rules will apply:

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You must be on the inmate’s visitors list. This has to filled out by the inmate and approved. It normally takes 3-5 days after the commitment date. The inmate is responsible for filling out the list and contacting his/her family members by letter or phone to let you know you are on the list.

The Visitation week is defined as Saturday thru Wednesday. Inmates are permitted three (3) one hour visits per week. There is a maximum of three (3) visitors per visit. Visitors must show a valid state photo ID, driver’s license, or federal photo ID. Visitors must be 18 years of age. A parent or legal guardian must accompany anyone under 18, and provide documentation stating such.(ex. birth certificate).

Passing of contraband is strictly prohibited. Persons caught passing any article to a prisoner or concealing contraband will immediately be removed and prohibited from future visits. Criminal charges will also be brought against the visitor and the prisoner.

All visitors are subject to a strip search upon request.

All personal belongings must be left in your automobiles while visiting or put in the lockers before entering the visiting room.

No visitor will be permitted to enter the visiting room unless properly dressed. Shirts and shoes are required. Shorts that reveal too much, mini-skirts, halter tops or any revealing clothing are not permitted.

Switching booths or going to any other area will result in the visit being terminated.

All visits will end promptly at the designated time. If the allotted hour is not used up, the visitor is still required to leave. The visitor may not return later that day or during the week to complete the visit.

You may pick up a copy of the Visiting Regulations at the front desk as you come in to visit.

Visitors must register 10 minutes prior to the scheduled visit time. NO EXCEPTIONS.

Visiting Times: A Unit: Monday 5-6:00PM; B,C,H Unit's: Monday 3-5:00PM, Tuesday 10AM-12PM, Wednesday 8-10AM, Saturday 6-8PM; Sunday 8-10PM; D Unit: Monday 10AM-12PM, Tuesday 6-8:00PM, Wednesday 3-5:00PM, Saturday 1-3:00PM; Sunday 10AM-12PM; E Unit: Monday 1-3:00PM, Tuesday 8-10:00AM, Wednesday 6-8:00PM, Saturday 3-5:00PM, Sunday 1-3:00PM; G and J Unit: Monday 8-10:00AM, Tuesday 8-10:00PM, Wednesday 10AM-12:00PM, Saturday 8-10:00PM, Sunday 3-5:00PM; F and I Unit: Monday 8-10PM, Tuesday 3-5:00PM, Wednesday 1-3:00PM; Saturday 10AM-12PM; Sunday 8-10:00AM; K Unit: Monday 6-8:00PM, Tuesday 1-3:00PM, Wednesday 8-10:00PM, Saturday 8-10:00AM, Sunday 6-8:00PM; K Unit Protective Custody: Monday 12-1:00PM, Sunday 5-6:00PM; K Unit RHU Inmates: Saturday 5-6:00PM; Protective Custody: Tuesday 5-6:00PM; Wednesday 5-6:00PM; Saturday 12-1:00PM

Blair County PA - Welcome to Blair County

www.blairco.org

 

[acutename]

Because those crimes aren't typically politically or religiously motivated; they're not designed to intimidate or coerce the public into doing something. Those killers, if they survive, are charged with first degree murder. They never see the light of day, unless they are a juvenile.

The only way they could have charged this guy with first degree murder under New York law, was to file this particular charge. Despite being the clearest example of premeditated murder that you can possibly have, they could have otherwise only charged him with second degree murder.

some of the school shooters are juveniles; LM is an adult

 

[CrimeJunkie82]

What I cant seem to grasp is the bag of monopoly money that was found. Has anything else been said about this? It has to have some kind of significance for him to have purposely left it where it could be found.

 

[IzzyBlanche]

What I cant seem to grasp is the bag of monopoly money that was found. Has anything else been said about this? It has to have some kind of significance for him to have purposely left it where it could be found.

JMO, I think it represented to him corporate greed and possibly that UHC was well on its way to becoming a healthcare monopoly.

I favor the corporate greed theory over the other one. Again, JMO and speculation.

 

[NuttMegg]

What I cant seem to grasp is the bag of monopoly money that was found. Has anything else been said about this? It has to have some kind of significance for him to have purposely left it where it could be found.

I know. Seems so frivolous and childish to be connected to such a purposeful death.

 

[MassGuy]

What I cant seem to grasp is the bag of monopoly money that was found. Has anything else been said about this? It has to have some kind of significance for him to have purposely left it where it could be found.

Like the words on the bullet casings, I think it's a safe bet it was symbolic. There's lots of potential theories in regards to the message he was trying to send, and only he can answer that definitively. I can't imagine he will, at least until after he's convicted (safe bet). He seems like the type of guy who is going to speak from behind bars, if only in written form.

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[Friday Fan]

Like the words on the bullet casings, I think it's a safe bet it was symbolic. There's lots of potential theories in regards to the message he was trying to send, and only he can answer that definitively. I can't imagine he will, at least until after he's convicted (safe bet). He seems like the type of guy who is going to speak from behind bars, if only in written form.

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It seems like only yesterday, we were baffled at this "mastermind"!

Good job NYPD and FBI!

 

[Sundog]

Talk about a nail in the coffin... Harsh stuff coming from a mother's mouth, especially at a time she still did not have any certainty he was the one who had committed the murder and the impression (and how damaging) this comment could ''imprint'' on police officers listening to it.

This sentence has left me KO, I am not going to lie, it is hard to read a mother reaching that stage of feeling fed up perhaps? and as I was just mentioning to my buddies in the private chat we have for this case, it has made me wonder what was the actual state of the mother/son relationship (broken or in the process of?) before he went ''missing'' from family/friends.

Jmoo.

LM's mother was being confronted by LE, incuding the FBI, IIRC. If she was shown a photo of the suspect in the assassination of Brian Thompson and asked if that looked like her son and if her son could have committed the murder, then she had to answer honestly. She wouldn't lie to LE, she saw the photo and realized that it could be her son. I don't see it as an indication that the mother/son relationship was necessarily broken. I see it as a mother doing the right thing by the law. It is against the law to lie to LE and she answered honestly. This was likely very difficult for her to admit, but confornted with his wanted picture and the facts, she had no choice but to do the right thing.

ebm

 

[justpeachy22]

Find it crazy that his family is very involved in he medical field and this is what he deduced by his experiences with insurance. Plus they are active members of that group earning their living. Am asre they care

To the contrary, I think it’s safe to say that many doctors feel the same way about health insurance as Luigi does, in fact there is an off chance his sister and family in healthcare share some of the same opinions to varying degrees.

 

[MassGuy]

It seems like only yesterday, we were baffled at this "mastermind"!

Good job NYPD and FBI!

I know, we've come a long way in a couple weeks.

The more we learn, the sloppier this whole thing appears. We've seen this a lot though. Really intelligent people who make really bad killers.

 

[eishish]

To the contrary, I think it’s safe to say that many doctors feel the same way about health insurance as Luigi does, in fact there is an off chance his sister and family in healthcare share some of the same opinions to varying degrees.

Oops, was replying to why had not come to see them. And yes many do feel same. Have experienced it first hand and is detrimental and against their oath once bitten by the apathetic bug. Will post my experiences

 

[Charlot123]

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Totally agree. I think you have a grandiose psychopath who was fed on a steady diet of applause during his youth which acted like a narcotic on a fragile psyche. His relationships, although many, struck me as friendly but superficial. He appeared to mostly be a loner living a nomadic lifestyle with nowhere he could call home.

I think without all the claps from a cheering audience and all the accolades he received during his youth, he grew very aimless and rudderless in life. But what to do? He knew his brilliance was no match for a Pythagoras or a Newton, but he clearly wasn't interested or too lazy to do the hard work towards making his own mark on the world.

He said he wanted to etch himself a place in history, and he did succeed on that count. Lets hope the court doesn't allow him the opportunity to stand up and preach to the crowd like some heroic champion of the people coming to rescue us all from the corporate demons out there.

I think he will fight his attorney's over using an insanity defense. That would be so insulting to him to be thought of as 'crazy'. I think his goal is to grab as many headlines and interviews as possible to dazzle us with his brilliant oratory and knowledge on a variety of topics.

Personality-wise, I'd respectfully disagree with you. Perhaps no one knows the truth, but I put this “tech bro” into anarcho-terrorist group. Anarchy-terrorists have been the pest of Europe for almost two centuries, and perhaps because they are viewed for "what they stand" and not for "what kind of people they are", less is known about their personalities, although there are books written about them.

Historically, they have been more harmful than many others. But neither Luigi's wealth nor his guts are an exception for the group. They have amazing ability to believe 1) that them and only them know the “way out” and 2) have “hard as it is to do, but it needs to be done,” mentality. I think that they do have emotional feelings and breakdowns before the act. I have many examples; especially if these were women. But, “horrible as it is, it needs to be done.”

Least of all can I call them egotistical. That’s the truth, many don’t mind dying for “the cause.” They are usually not religious, but in their obsession with the overvalued “idea” of justice they resemble religious terrorists, like bin Laden.

Luigi’s person is appealing, and nothing can be done with it. But many other anarchists who definitely did it "for the idea" and didn't profit from their murders at all, later in life, turned into horrible people. Granted, they all started as group leaders.

When the grandmother had in her will that anyone arrested, convicted etc of an offence loses their right to any money out of her estate I did wonder if that was about him, maybe no known offences committed but signs of disruptive behaviour when she was alive

i doubt that she had the time to look at the “behavior” of one of many grandkids. Rather, I suspect, it protects those who inherits from blowing all the money or drugs or falling victims to friends who are criminals.

I find that to be crazy. Wow.

Me too. Maybe there is a reason, or perhaps he doesn't want to see them. But one wonders if the house was not the place where he could have come "no matter what"?

 

[JDG]

Luigi Mangione's mom's bombshell admission to cops days before arrest

Luigi Mangione's mother made a shocking admission to police before the suspected assassin was arrested, police announced on Tuesday.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[Charlot123]

I know, we've come a long way in a couple weeks.

The more we learn, the sloppier this whole thing appears. We've seen this a lot though. Really intelligent people who make really bad killers.

- Not that I think that he made a good killer, but let us be fair. It is not "Moriarty vs Sherlock Holmes." It is "Moriarty vs Sherlock Holmes + Scotland Yard + AI." So it is rather, "in this time, it's hard to make a good killer."
Plus, I don't know what his end plan was.