NY - UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson fatally shot in Midtown. #10 *Arrest*

[kuromiiiilove]

I don’t feel it is that NuttMegg, but I understand how optics can create that.
We can’t allow this to set a precedent. Luigi may not have hurt others, but crazy person X may not have as many worries about the kids or others standing nearby.

Please know, I understand your frustrations and get it.

I think both things can be true.

 

[CrimeDawg123]

And, including the neutrals, >30% of over 70's, my age group, did not say completely unacceptable, iirc 10% said " acceptable". That means of those 100 old ppl you see every day, assuming they are registered voters, 10 could lean towards "not guilty" as a juror before a trial begins. We don't get to post old trials here, but I could dig up a few where a outlier on a 12 person jury let someone go free. That's the system, it's played from all angles, how many jurors were unfairly dismissed? How much evidence was unfairly blocked, so the jury only learned of it after they made their decision?

I'm not worried at all about a jury being influenced by thinking the murder is "acceptable" because they think the health insurance industry is the spawn of the devil. There was no self-defense here or anything that could justify it. Once this case goes to trial, the jurors will be vetted, and they will be sobered by being in the deliberation room. Even them youngins.

 

[sds71]

High-powered defense attorney Marc Agnifilo has joined his wife Karen Friedman Agnifilo to represent UnitedHealthcare CEO murder suspect Luigi Mangione in New York.

The two attorneys were seen walking together into federal court Thursday ahead of Mangione’s arraignment.

Marc Agnifilo is also involved in the high-profile criminal case against music magnate Sean “Diddy” Combs, who faces federal charges of sex trafficking and racketeering conspiracy

https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/the-latest-on-the-unitedhealthcare-ceo-killing-suspect-12-19-24/index.html

https://twitter.com/x/status/1869809839087755707

 

[Tiff23fr]

High-powered defense attorney Marc Agnifilo has joined his wife Karen Friedman Agnifilo to represent UnitedHealthcare CEO murder suspect Luigi Mangione in New York.

The two attorneys were seen walking together into federal court Thursday ahead of Mangione’s arraignment.

Marc Agnifilo is also involved in the high-profile criminal case against music magnate Sean “Diddy” Combs, who faces federal charges of sex trafficking and racketeering conspiracy

https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/the-latest-on-the-unitedhealthcare-ceo-killing-suspect-12-19-24/index.html

https://twitter.com/x/status/1869809839087755707

Hold our hats…

 

[MassGuy]

It appears LM waited by the Hilton for about an hour before the shooting.
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This makes me wonder if LM went into Starbucks earlier than we thought. That would make more sense than LM taking a Starbucks break and risking BT walking outside at that exact time, imo.

This is the timeline from the DA’s press release. It appears he was taking the risk of missing him.


Between 5:52 a.m. and 6:45 a.m., MANGIONE walked near and around the Hilton Hotel. At approximately 6:15 a.m. he purchased a water bottle and granola bars at the Starbucks at 1290 6th Avenue.

Between approximately 6:38 a.m. and 6:44 a.m., MANGIONE stood against a wall on the north side of West 54th Street across from the Hilton, fully masked with his hood up.

At 6:45 a.m., MANGIONE crossed the street to the Hilton Hotel and, armed with a 9-millimeter 3D-printed ghost gun equipped with a silencer, approached Mr. Thompson from behind and shot him once in the back and once in the leg

D.A. Bragg Announces Murder Indictment Of Luigi Mangione

“We allege that Luigi Mangione carried out the brazen, targeted and fatal shooting of United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson in Midtown Manhattan. This type of premeditated, targeted gun violence cannot and will not be tolerated, and my office has been working day in and day out to bring the defendant

manhattanda.org

 

[steeltowngirl]

Luigi Mangione caught the eye of onlookers Thursday with a makeover before his extradition hearing in Pennsylvania.

The Ivy League-educated suspect in the murder of UnitedHealthCare CEO Brian Thompson was clean-shaven with a haircut and an apparent eyebrow trim.

Luigi Mangione’s Prison Transformation Draws Stares at Court
Luigi Mangione’s Prison Transformation Draws Stares at Court

 

[NuttMegg]

Luigi Mangione caught the eye of onlookers Thursday with a makeover before his extradition hearing in Pennsylvania.

The Ivy League-educated suspect in the murder of UnitedHealthCare CEO Brian Thompson was clean-shaven with a haircut and an apparent eyebrow trim.

Luigi Mangione’s Prison Transformation Draws Stares at Court
Luigi Mangione’s Prison Transformation Draws Stares at Court

He just has his eyebrows raised in the "after" photo.

 

[CrimeDawg123]

High-powered defense attorney Marc Agnifilo has joined his wife Karen Friedman Agnifilo to represent UnitedHealthcare CEO murder suspect Luigi Mangione in New York.

The two attorneys were seen walking together into federal court Thursday ahead of Mangione’s arraignment.

Marc Agnifilo is also involved in the high-profile criminal case against music magnate Sean “Diddy” Combs, who faces federal charges of sex trafficking and racketeering conspiracy

https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/the-latest-on-the-unitedhealthcare-ceo-killing-suspect-12-19-24/index.html

https://twitter.com/x/status/1869809839087755707

Sheez, their dinner table conversations...

 

[legalese]

This is the timeline from the DA’s press release. It appears he was taking the risk of missing him.


Between 5:52 a.m. and 6:45 a.m., MANGIONE walked near and around the Hilton Hotel. At approximately 6:15 a.m. he purchased a water bottle and granola bars at the Starbucks at 1290 6th Avenue.

Between approximately 6:38 a.m. and 6:44 a.m., MANGIONE stood against a wall on the north side of West 54th Street across from the Hilton, fully masked with his hood up.

At 6:45 a.m., MANGIONE crossed the street to the Hilton Hotel and, armed with a 9-millimeter 3D-printed ghost gun equipped with a silencer, approached Mr. Thompson from behind and shot him once in the back and once in the leg

D.A. Bragg Announces Murder Indictment Of Luigi Mangione

“We allege that Luigi Mangione carried out the brazen, targeted and fatal shooting of United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson in Midtown Manhattan. This type of premeditated, targeted gun violence cannot and will not be tolerated, and my office has been working day in and day out to bring the defendant

manhattanda.org

Thanks, I forgot about this timeline. I guess I shouldn’t underestimate the power of hunger and caffeine addiction!

 

[Tiff23fr]

This is the timeline from the DA’s press release. It appears he was taking the risk of missing him.


Between 5:52 a.m. and 6:45 a.m., MANGIONE walked near and around the Hilton Hotel. At approximately 6:15 a.m. he purchased a water bottle and granola bars at the Starbucks at 1290 6th Avenue.

Between approximately 6:38 a.m. and 6:44 a.m., MANGIONE stood against a wall on the north side of West 54th Street across from the Hilton, fully masked with his hood up.

At 6:45 a.m., MANGIONE crossed the street to the Hilton Hotel and, armed with a 9-millimeter 3D-printed ghost gun equipped with a silencer, approached Mr. Thompson from behind and shot him once in the back and once in the leg

D.A. Bragg Announces Murder Indictment Of Luigi Mangione

“We allege that Luigi Mangione carried out the brazen, targeted and fatal shooting of United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson in Midtown Manhattan. This type of premeditated, targeted gun violence cannot and will not be tolerated, and my office has been working day in and day out to bring the defendant

manhattanda.org

The indictment also indicates the bike disappeared in a two minute window 6:58 to 7:00 AM.

 

[Arkay]

This is the timeline from the DA’s press release. It appears he was taking the risk of missing him.


Between 5:52 a.m. and 6:45 a.m., MANGIONE walked near and around the Hilton Hotel. At approximately 6:15 a.m. he purchased a water bottle and granola bars at the Starbucks at 1290 6th Avenue.

Between approximately 6:38 a.m. and 6:44 a.m., MANGIONE stood against a wall on the north side of West 54th Street across from the Hilton, fully masked with his hood up.

At 6:45 a.m., MANGIONE crossed the street to the Hilton Hotel and, armed with a 9-millimeter 3D-printed ghost gun equipped with a silencer, approached Mr. Thompson from behind and shot him once in the back and once in the leg

D.A. Bragg Announces Murder Indictment Of Luigi Mangione

“We allege that Luigi Mangione carried out the brazen, targeted and fatal shooting of United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson in Midtown Manhattan. This type of premeditated, targeted gun violence cannot and will not be tolerated, and my office has been working day in and day out to bring the defendant

manhattanda.org

Such a dichotomy here…meticulous planning in many ways, yet interspersed with moments of carelessness which revealed his identity.

IMO why this case receives so much more attention than others—-it’s a function of the media.

Of course there are murders every day here in NYC, but the media will give its attention to something with a unique angle. This case is an example—-masked, strange gun, on camera, midtown Manhattan at break of day, convoluted escape plan, and of course the victim being a rich out-of-towner in charge of a very contentious industry.

It’s not that LE wouldn’t follow through on the case of the immigrants being shot. They will. But IMO the media coverage operates on what will give them an audience. Just like some cases make it to Dateline and the majority do not.

Imo

 

[DizzyB]

Thanks, I forgot about this timeline. I guess I shouldn’t underestimate the power of hunger and caffeine addiction!

Risky, unless he had persuaded some desk clerk or someone to shoot a text to him when Thompson left the hotel. Social engineering?

 

[legalese]

Risky, unless he had persuaded some desk clerk or someone to shoot a text to him when Thompson left the hotel. Social engineering?

I’m curious to know the same. I also wonder if social engineering is how he managed to get the date, time, and location of the investor’s conference in advance.

 

[MassGuy]

Sickening, if you think about it, how transparent they’re being that *we* don’t deserve the same justice and protection *they* do…

This is a completely different type of situation; it’s like comparing apples and rocks.

First, he committed a brazen assassination the middle of New York with a silenced gun, for all the world to see. Thats never happened before, and terrifying on so many levels.

More importantly though, it risks opening the floodgates for more targeted assassinations. Potential copycats will see the attention this brings, and target someone else (politician, a business executive, or someone else high profile).

The last thing you want to happen is for this to turn into a phenomenon like school shootings.

The difference between this and that though, is that a segment of the population finds this sort of thing acceptable.

That’s chilling, and a message must be sent.

 

[Sunshynn]

Such a dichotomy here…meticulous planning in many ways, yet interspersed with moments of carelessness which revealed his identity.

IMO, could be tunnel vision for the deed at hand coupled with an inflated ego for his perfect planned assassination.
Or, of course, it could be that he's a 20-somthing with a lack of impulse control or forethought into all of his actions. MOO.

 

[MassGuy]

Such a dichotomy here…meticulous planning in many ways, yet interspersed with moments of carelessness which revealed his identity.

IMO why this case receives so much more attention than others—-it’s a function of the media.

Of course there are murders every day here in NYC, but the media will give its attention to something with a unique angle. This case is an example—-masked, strange gun, on camera, midtown Manhattan at break of day, convoluted escape plan, and of course the victim being a rich out-of-towner in charge of a very contentious industry.

It’s not that LE wouldn’t follow through on the case of the immigrants being shot. They will. But IMO the media coverage operates on what will give them an audience. Just like some cases make it to Dateline and the majority do not.

Imo

This generated so much pressure, from the public, from the city, from the nation, and from the world.

The credibility of the NYPD was on the line, and the safety of the city was in question. The implications here were far greater than your standard murder. Just the reality.

 

[Sunshynn]

Risky, unless he had persuaded some desk clerk or someone to shoot a text to him when Thompson left the hotel. Social engineering?

I've wondered what he meant by the social engineering he mentions in his notebook and, you could 100% be correct on this - imo.

 

[eishish]

Such a dichotomy here…meticulous planning in many ways, yet interspersed with moments of carelessness which revealed his identity.

IMO why this case receives so much more attention than others—-it’s a function of the media.

Of course there are murders every day here in NYC, but the media will give its attention to something with a unique angle. This case is an example—-masked, strange gun, on camera, midtown Manhattan at break of day, convoluted escape plan, and of course the victim being a rich out-of-towner in charge of a very contentious industry.

It’s not that LE wouldn’t follow through on the case of the immigrants being shot. They will. But IMO the media coverage operates on what will give them an audience. Just like some cases make it to Dateline and the majority do not.

Imo

He might have been in so much pain, broke, exhausted. Maybe thats why so many errors. Or, just get me atitude. So much to break down

 

[kuromiiiilove]

This is a completely different type of situation; it’s like comparing apples and rocks.

First, he committed a brazen assassination the middle of New York with a silenced gun, for all the world to see. Thats never happened before, and terrifying on so many levels.

More importantly though, it risks opening the floodgates for more targeted assassinations. Potential copycats will see the attention this brings, and target someone else (politician, a business executive, or someone else high profile).

The last thing you want to happen is for this to turn into a phenomenon like school shootings.

The difference between this and that though, is that a segment of the population finds this sort of thing acceptable.

That’s chilling, and a message must be sent.

It’s clear we both agree this was a horrifying act and needs to be addressed with utmost seriousness. But framing it as ‘completely different’ and justifying that view undermines the value of justice for ALL victims.

Think about how marginalized communities lives are devalued when justice in unevenly distributed. Murders of ‘every day people’ don’t receive the same resources, media coverage, or urgency. And THAT disparity is exactly what I’m upset about.

The fear about copycat crimes is valid. But we’ve seen that phenomenon with school shootings, hate crimes, and domestic terrorism. And NONE of those have been met with this level of attention or accountability. Every life deserves justice and prevention of further harm, no matter who they are.

We can condemn this assasination while simultaneously advocating for all victims of violence. I personally believe it’s deeply dangerous to justify this unequal application of the law.

All IMO/MOO

 

[Warwick7]

Mayor Adams doesn't have alot of room in defining what is "illegal."
I dislike hypocrites.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1869821506748068121