NY - UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson fatally shot in Midtown. #11 *Arrest*

[NuttMegg]

Truly. We know the courtroom is theater and therefore the defense typically dresses up the client to look presentable.

This is unique though—-mommy, daddy and their boy. Like the Von Trapps or something, wearing their uniforms of togetherness.


Oh, agree.

To be a proud vigilante seeking frontier justice, undergirded by his rant at LE when he was arrested (“this arrest insults American intelligence,” etc.), to have to do an abrupt about- face and claim to have been out of his right mind would mean he was just another sick nobody.

He’s living now off his Big Man on Campus reputation morphing into the Superman who will fix the country’s health woes. I think he has too much pride to drop the mantles he’s wearing—those of hero and martyr.

Time will tell if he puts his own self-preservation first. I think he will but really, who knows? It’s early days yet.

JMO

ETA he said. " That’s completely out of touch, and an insult to the intelligence of the American people and the lived experience.” What he shouted that day was never clarified. It was vague enough to let everyone, myself included, interpret it to fit a narrative. He didn't mention his arrest. I was thinking he meant the way he was being treated, ie with press lined up.

Watch: Luigi Mangione shouts ‘this is an insult to the American people’ as he is escorted into court

The 26-year-old charged with murder faces an extradition hearing in Pennsylvania over whether he can be taken to New York

www.telegraph.co.uk

 

[Chimera]

It's all fun and games until he gets his three hots and a cot........

Indeed !

He'll probably be placed in gen. pop.
Unable to get out.
Unable to choose what he wants to eat.
Unable to get away from a fellow inmate who might have a grudge against him.
Yeah, that sounds fun... NOT.

Luigi brought this upon himself, no one else did.
Omo.

 

[tlcya]

It doesn't matter what age he is. If a close family member knew or suspected that he could be a danger to society then they should have reported it and warned LE and shared with them whatever they knew or suspected. Did they know he had gone off the deep end about the health care industry? Did the family fear him because he was acting strangely and they felt they could be in danger, too? This is all hypothetical, of course, but questions could be asked during depositions.

IF family knew how troubled LM was and IF they suspected he could harm himself or other yes, they should absolutely have reported that to LE when reporting him as a missing person to SFPD. Has the missing persons report been published? Do we know they didn't do just that? Do we know that they knew he might be a danger prior to his actions that fateful day or is it possible LM's mother said what she is quoted as saying AFTER the fact in retrospect when questioned do you think this is your son and is he capable of this?

 

[LinasK]

Truly. We know the courtroom is theater and therefore the defense typically dresses up the client to look presentable.

This is unique though—-mommy, daddy and their boy. Like the Von Trapps or something, wearing their uniforms of togetherness.


Oh, agree.

To be a proud vigilante seeking frontier justice, undergirded by his rant at LE when he was arrested (“this arrest insults American intelligence,” etc.), to have to do an abrupt about- face and claim to have been out of his right mind would mean he was just another sick nobody.

He’s living now off his Big Man on Campus reputation morphing into the Superman who will fix the country’s health woes. I think he has too much pride to drop the mantles he’s wearing—those of hero and martyr.

Time will tell if he puts his own self-preservation first. I think he will but really, who knows? It’s early days yet.

JMO

What Mr. Geniius didn't figure on is that his jury will be comprised of New Yorkers who don't know him, people over age 26, and don't see him as the Big Man on Campus.

 

[Trino]

That has been my whole point this entire time. You don't 'fix' a major problem like Healthcare by gunning down one person of one company. It's soooo much bigger than this.

It needs to be addressed, advocated and legislated at the Government levels. This one murder did not change a thing. Let's see in the months to come if people get their grievances and concerns of unfair practices magically fixed and operating at the same for all. It hasn't happened in the past, and it won't because of what LM did.

It will take a huge, massive effort by a lot more people than a disgruntled killer born into and shared the privileges of the very 1% club that he holds responsible. Never mind that he was afforded to attend an exclusive private school to the tune of approx $35K per year, and to an Ivy League College for a Bachelors and Master Degree I would guesstimate to be in the $200-$300K range. LM had top of the line gear, traveled extensively and enjoyed parts of the very Capitalism he rails against in his letters/manifestos.

LM is no Saint and no Hero, he is a self serving cowardly killer.

JMO

There are many wealthy persons in major companies and political positions, etc., who are concerned about unfair practices affecting lower and middle class persons. A great example is Kean Reeves, one the the wealthiest actors in the world.

 

[Knitty]

There is a thread in The Jury Room for you to tell us your insurance stories.

CLICK HERE to join in.

This thread is about the murder of Brian Thompson.

 

[citygirl]

I don't think LM will plea or is even entertaining it. His ego is too big. MOO

Agree. Not so sure with the ego part, though. JMO

 

[citygirl]

I haven't seen many people of that age with well thought-out altruistic life plans. At that age they have minimal experience with who pays for what.

I am most curious about with whom he was bouncing ideas back and forth during his gone missing period. Not that it would change his own case, his own guilt, just who affected, or reinforced his own seeming "throw my life away" action.

So true. Mystifies me.When he could be safe and warm celebrating Christmas with his loving family. Now sleeping on a slab in MDC. MOO.

 

[citygirl]

I agree as it applies to his current situation but as generality the ego is not permanent, it evolves and can change fairly quickly as consequence of trauma or emotional turmoil, for instance. In terms of a trial, its early days; and I believe his very sharp lawyers will digest and prepare a summary of all the evidence against him, present it to him with the premise that "you have no other choice" and unlike other pre-trial shenanigans we've all observed here on WS, they will avoid giving anything to MSM that would tend to undermine the prosecution's case. For the defense, continued coverage that intensifies or ratifies the "martyr" status for LM or even rallies those that support this crime is an anathema because it tends to support the "terrorist" elements of the 1DM charge.
Those conditions also leave LM on his pedestal; and they need to take him down off that pedestal to get him to consider a plea deal. The greater the interval between court or otherwise public appearances for LM in the near future, the more likely the attention of MSM and those vilifying the insurance industry will deflect and wain; and that suits their purposes, whether a plea deal is forthcoming or they choose to go to trial at the state level. With the mountain of evidence we already know about, the defense has to consider any sentence that includes the possibility of parole to be a win.
I anticipate the media will have considerable difficulty writing "hard news" on this case in the near term because their sources of information are going to largely dry up....With the possible exception of Mayor Adams. Within that framework, it is interesting that compared to other cases, we have seen relatively little information from media that was sourced from family, neighbours, close friends and the like.

MOO and could easily be proved wrong.

Something to think about. JMO

 

[citygirl]

It doesn't matter what age he is. If a close family member knew or suspected that he could be a danger to society then they should have reported it and warned LE and shared with them whatever they knew or suspected. Did they know he had gone off the deep end about the health care industry? Did the family fear him because he was acting strangely and they felt they could be in danger, too? This is all hypothetical, of course, but questions could be asked during depositions.

JMO but I doubt they felt any of that.

 

[LaborDayRN]

Planning matching outfits is so unserious lol

Now that I think about it, I wonder if her having a matching outfit is her way of saying she's on his side. Like one of his followers. JMO

 

[citygirl]

Truly feel for this family.
By all accounts, people of means but very low key.
Just awful. And sad.
MOO.

 

[Moonchild90]

Now that I think about it, I wonder if her having a matching outfit is her way of saying she's on his side. Like one of his followers. JMO

I mean she's his attorney, I'm sure she's feeling sympathetic towards him and she signalled that with the outfits. They are a team now. JMO

 

[CrimeDawg123]

I don't see how LM can possibly plead not guilty at the same time he's being raised up as a folk hero for killing a CEO.

 

[LinasK]

I guarantee that there will be jurors sympathetic to UHC. I would be if I were selected for this jury.

 

[CrimeDawg123]

I guarantee that there will be jurors sympathetic to UHC. I would be if I were selected for this jury.

I don't think I'd have an ounce of sympathy for UHC. But I still could convict their CEO'S killer.

 

[Luna20]

Now that I think about it, I wonder if her having a matching outfit is her way of saying she's on his side. Like one of his followers. JMO

This got my attention because if she suggested it, it would be bizarre for an attorney to do that for many reasons.

One reason to start with is she has only known him for short length of time. She can’t claim she has come to know that it helps him to stay focused or calm, like she would months in.

There are multiple articles on it and so far that I have seen is it’s a coincidence. An odd one considering the case details.

 

[acutename]

It doesn't matter what age he is. If a close family member knew or suspected that he could be a danger to society then they should have reported it and warned LE and shared with them whatever they knew or suspected. Did they know he had gone off the deep end about the health care industry? Did the family fear him because he was acting strangely and they felt they could be in danger, too? This is all hypothetical, of course, but questions could be asked during depositions.

the family did not know where he was. He ghosted them and they were looking for him.

Family of suspected CEO killer Luigi Mangione hired ...​

Daily Mail
https://www.dailymail.co.uk › news › article-14178655




Dec 13, 2024 — Alleged UnitedHealthcare CEO murderer Luigi Mangione was estranged from his family for over a year, causing them to hire a private ...

what could they "report" beyond the missing persons?

 

[LaborDayRN]

I'm not sure if this has been posted. I searched the threads but they are moving so fast I may have missed it. (actually I thought I posted it! lol)
Mods please delete this post if it has already been shared.....

Luigi Mangione's Grandmother Left Family Members Millions, So Long as They Didn't Commit Crimes

Mangione was arrested on Dec. 9 in Altoona, Pa. He's accused of murdering UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson.

people.com

Accused murderer Luigi Mangione’s grandmother reportedly left tens of millions of dollars to her children and grandchildren after she died, but did so on one condition: that any grandchild receiving inheritance money not be “charged, indicted, convicted of or pleads guilty to a felony.”

 

[justpeachy22]

Planning matching outfits is so unserious lol

Someone up above thought it was a brilliant move on her part and I have to say I totally agree. Her husband even had a matching tie. From a defense attorney’s perspective, if Nordstrom is selling out of their sweater because of the team image you created with your client, that’s a good thing. (Rolls eyes)
And ps. The irony is that LM must have hated that sweater and the idea. lol