NY - UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson fatally shot in Midtown. #12 *Arrest*

[Via Marple]

*This writer claims to have had contact with him for months

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=602315508970081

Mangione said he was on holiday in Japan, and I asked him about it. He said that while he loved many aspects of Japanese culture, such as its sense of honor, he believed Japan was full of “NPCs,” or non-player characters—which is internet slang for people who don’t think for themselves. He then told me a story he’d first mentioned in an email: One morning in Japan, he saw a man having a seizure in the street, so he ran to the nearest police station for help. They followed him back to the man, but refused to cross any street if the stoplight was red—even if the road was empty—as the man was seizing on the ground. Mangione lamented what he called “a lack of free will” in Japan, by which he meant a lack of agency. More:

My Conversations with Luigi Mangione

He told me that once we surrendered our agency, we’d surrender everything else.

www.thefp.com

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Hmm someone who would carry out a premeditated murder of a stranger IMO, criticised others who didn't save another stranger on the street fast enough.

 

[imstilla.grandma]

• YouTube and Threads have taken down pro-Luigi Mangione posts they've said violate their policies.
• YouTube told Business Insider it forbids videos that glorify the murder of the UnitedHealthcare CEO.
• The different moderation approaches among platforms are leaving some users confused.
• <modsnip - posting more than 10% is a copyright violation - see link>

Pro-Luigi Mangione content is filling up social platforms — and it's a challenge to moderate it

Luigi Mangione has drawn lots of defenders on social media. That's a challenge for platforms when it comes to moderation — and for users.

www.businessinsider.com

 

[slowpoke]

*This writer claims to have had contact with him for months

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=602315508970081

Mangione said he was on holiday in Japan, and I asked him about it. He said that while he loved many aspects of Japanese culture, such as its sense of honor, he believed Japan was full of “NPCs,” or non-player characters—which is internet slang for people who don’t think for themselves. He then told me a story he’d first mentioned in an email: One morning in Japan, he saw a man having a seizure in the street, so he ran to the nearest police station for help. They followed him back to the man, but refused to cross any street if the stoplight was red—even if the road was empty—as the man was seizing on the ground. Mangione lamented what he called “a lack of free will” in Japan, by which he meant a lack of agency. More:

My Conversations with Luigi Mangione

He told me that once we surrendered our agency, we’d surrender everything else.

www.thefp.com

x.com

x.com

While it was nice of Luigi to try to get help for the man having a seizure, it is not kind of him to call the Japanese NPCs. I never heard of that slang before, but it sounds very disparaging and belittling, imo.

The Japanese by culture place high value on social order; to live harmoniously. We’ve seen in the news after a disaster how the people will wait in single file in long lines with no pushing or shoving. No looting or shouting. They see value in following societal rules. Group harmony over individuality.

In the case of the individual having a seizure, if he was a Japanese man he would bear no ill thought towards the police waiting for red lights. In fact, after he was able to speak after his seizure, I’m sure he would profusely be apologizing for being a ‘bother’. It is their way.

Just my opinion.

(Coincidentally, I am an American with Japanese ancestry, and happen to have a seizure disorder. Thus my interest in this.)

 

[justpeachy22]

I could be wrong, but I don't think "solitary" applies to jails--only prisons. He may be in a cell by himself, however. In our local jail, some cells have windows but they're high up on the walls (my daughter works in LE), and others are located on the inner part of the facility and have no windows at all.

Most of the jails in big cities are way overcrowded, so alot of people who would normally be in the “cells” are now kept in one of the many solitary confinement “rooms” behind a heavy metal door, absolutely no windows, either 1 or 2 people together if space is needed. (So I have been told). They do get to come out for an hour a day in to a small shared space to look out the “windows”, take a shower. I have a family member who works in corrections. No way was that LM in the window or flicking lights. Lower risk Jailmates (who will be in and out in a few days most likely) trying to engage with people on the outside imo.

 

[girlhasnoname]

While it was nice of Luigi to try to get help for the man having a seizure, it is not kind of him to call the Japanese NPCs. I never heard of that slang before, but it sounds very disparaging and belittling, imo.

The Japanese by culture place high value on social order; to live harmoniously. We’ve seen in the news after a disaster how the people will wait in single file in long lines with no pushing or shoving. No looting or shouting. They see value in following societal rules. Group harmony over individuality.

In the case of the individual having a seizure, if he was a Japanese man he would bear no ill thought towards the police waiting for red lights. In fact, after he was able to speak after his seizure, I’m sure he would profusely be apologizing for being a ‘bother’. It is their way.

Just my opinion.

(Coincidentally, I am an American with Japanese ancestry, and happen to have a seizure disorder. Thus my interest in this.)

I lived in Japan and found the people and the culture absolutely a pleasure to experience. Very peaceful and, like you mentioned, very humble and harmonious.

LM talks out of both sides of his mouth, IMO

 

[GRT]

• YouTube and Threads have taken down pro-Luigi Mangione posts they've said violate their policies.
• YouTube told Business Insider it forbids videos that glorify the murder of the UnitedHealthcare CEO.
• The different moderation approaches among platforms are leaving some users confused.
• <modsnip - paywalled article - see link if you have a subscription>

Pro-Luigi Mangione content is filling up social platforms — and it's a challenge to moderate it

Luigi Mangione has drawn lots of defenders on social media. That's a challenge for platforms when it comes to moderation — and for users.

www.businessinsider.com

Even though it is subject to government oversight, Google is still a private company and has the right to limit and remove content it feels is offensive.

But, it could backfire. If the rumors we previously discussed about Luigi being charged with terrorism at the behest of influential individuals are true, then I suspect similar individuals leaned on Google to control the narrative.

Social engineering at its best. Or, worst, depending on one's point of view. He hasn't been convicted yet--so there's that--but celebrating the murder of anyone is too harsh for most social media platforms. It crosses a line.

 

[imstilla.grandma]

‘New York Post Presents: Luigi Mangione Monster or Martyr?’ gives inside look into shocking UnitedHealthcare murder

"New York Post Presents: Luigi Mangione Monster or Martyr?" is now streaming on Tubi.

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[Chimera]

Cute matchy matchy outfits. Never seen that before. How [barf] special. lol

Justice for Brian Thompson's loved ones.

@cathyrusson

WATCH: #LuigiMangione in court.

https://youtu.be/_ZSqVhdoqpM?si=YSISKXU0uoS2GwOd #uhcceo

1:51 PM · Dec 23, 2024

https://twitter.com/x/status/1871267404405498319

Maybe LM's defense thinks it (matching outfits) will have a psychological influence ?

Like the manner in which some perps show up to court, neatly dressed and any wild hair tamed and neatly trimmed.
Still seems like trying way too hard to show that LM is really a solid citizen with one brief moment of unhinged psychosis.
And his lawyer is in full agreement.
Imo- unnecessary and borderline ridiculous.
Omo.

 

[Chimera]

I lived in Japan and found the people and the culture absolutely a pleasure to experience. Very peaceful and, like you mentioned, very humble and harmonious.

LM talks out of both sides of his mouth, IMO

Never had the chance to visit Japan.
Some of the photos I've seen of their gardens and parks are gorgeous.
Sounds delightful !

Absolutely agree regarding LM talking out both sides of his mouth.
I fear he 'tailors' his story to fit whatever benefits him.

How loathsome that anyone would even consider him a 'martyr'.
Just a lowlife and a killer, nothing more.
Omo.

 

[imstilla.grandma]

 

[al66pine]

"TMZ INVESTIGATES LUIGI MAGLIONE" TMZ tonight.

@imstilla.grandma
TYVM Per youtube, this was just posted a couple hours ago.

From transcript.
"TMZ INVESTIGATES SO MUCH TO LEARN IN THIS SPECIALTONIGHT. IT IS TONIGHT. TMZINVESTIGATES LUIGI MAGLIONE."

IIUC, from promo clip, ~2:26 when LM was in Thailand w a couple travel buddies, he went to a GUN RANGE. Several months before the Dec. homicide.

I don't recall hearing about the gun range before.
Anyone recall? Prior link? TiA

 

[imstilla.grandma]

"TMZ INVESTIGATES LUIGI MAGLIONE" TMZ tonight.

@imstilla.grandma
TYVM Per youtube, this was just posted a couple hours ago.

From transcript.
"TMZ INVESTIGATES SO MUCH TO LEARN IN THIS SPECIALTONIGHT. IT IS TONIGHT. TMZINVESTIGATES LUIGI MAGLIONE."

IIUC, from promo clip, ~2:26 when LM was in Thailand w a couple travel buddies, he went to a GUN RANGE. Several months the Dec. homicide.

I don't recall hearing about the gun range before.
Anyone recall? Prior link? TiA

No gun range reference but he talks about his visit to Thailand here (dated 10 Dec 2024:
Paul Piek, a 21-year-old software testing professional from Flensburg, Germany, met Mangione in March while watching a muay thai boxing fight in Ao Nang, Thailand.

The two and another friend of Piek's met up again in Krabi, Thailand on April 8 and roadtripped through Khao Sok and Bangkok, where they shared a hotel room for four nights and visited temples.

"He told us he did (muy thai) before his injury," said Piek.

Piek said Mangione told him he was interested in hiking when they met, with no further mention of his back injury. "It didn't seem like a problem," though he did opt out of one guided hike for an easier walk, saying he was ill.

Mangione said he was “between jobs” while in Thailand," said Piek, who described Mangione as a spontaneous travel companion, who enjoyed partying.

After traveling for another month alone, Mangione indicated in June that he was returning to the U.S., Piek said. In July, Piek stopped hearing from him

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/behind-unitedhealth-execs-accused-killer-possible-history-back-pain-emerges-2024-12-10/

 

[Sundog]

"TMZ INVESTIGATES LUIGI MAGLIONE" TMZ tonight.

@imstilla.grandma
TYVM Per youtube, this was just posted a couple hours ago.

From transcript.
"TMZ INVESTIGATES SO MUCH TO LEARN IN THIS SPECIALTONIGHT. IT IS TONIGHT. TMZINVESTIGATES LUIGI MAGLIONE."

IIUC, from promo clip, ~2:26 when LM was in Thailand w a couple travel buddies, he went to a GUN RANGE. Several months the Dec. homicide.

I don't recall hearing about the gun range before.
Anyone recall? Prior link? TiA

Interesting information, thanks for posting. After intense investigation the conclusion by TMZ is that LM wasn't that interested in the health care industry, but he was focused on "corporate greed." As we have discussed before, the health care industry and event in NYC just checked off all the boxes. It could have been any industry that checked off all the boxes. TMZ also concludes following their investigation that there is mental illness involved.

Sounds like through interviews with the friends he travelled with to Thailand, they learned that LM went to a firing range. We know he had to have practiced shooting somewhere before the execution of Brian Thompson. Also, TMZ is saying that this was in the summer of 2024, about 7 months before the murder, so a lot of planning went into this, they conclude.

Also says he flew to India to meet with the author of a book that LM was obsessed with, and that LM had lots of fake IDs. Not a lot of details, just some promotional information. The segment will air tonight on TMZ Investigates at 7 pm (I assume that is ET, but they didn't say during the promo).

 

[MassGuy]

Interesting information, thanks for posting. After intense investigation the conclusion by TMZ is that LM wasn't that interested in the health care industry, but he was focused on "corporate greed." As we have discussed before, the health care industry and event in NYC just checked off all the boxes. It could have been any industry that checked off all the boxes. TMZ also concludes following their investigation that there is mental illness involved.

Sounds like through interviews with the friends he travelled with to Thailand, they learned that LM went to a firing range. We know he had to have practiced shooting somewhere before the execution of Brian Thompson. Also, TMZ is saying that this was in the summer of 2024, about 7 months before the murder, so a lot of planning went into this, they conclude.

Also says he flew to India to meet with the author of a book that LM was obsessed with, and that LM had lots of fake IDs. Not a lot of details, just some promotional information. The segment will air tonight on TMZ Investigates at 7 pm (I assume that is ET, but they didn't say during the promo).

That sounds exactly right to me. Not some martyr devout to the cause, but a mentally ill dude who just needed a target. I continue to believe he did this for notoriety and ego.

It will always annoy me that people can't see this for what it is.

 

[stanerd]

Isn't TMZ just some celebrity gossip junk website? Is it any more credible than the National Enquirer?

 

[MassGuy]

Isn't TMZ just some celebrity gossip junk website? Is it any more credible than the National Enquirer?

They’re much more reliable than something like the enquirer. News outlets and wire services frequently site their reporting.

 

[Melsworld]

That sounds exactly right to me. Not some martyr devout to the cause, but a mentally ill dude who just needed a target. I continue to believe he did this for notoriety and ego.

It will always annoy me that people can't see this for what it is.

Yep, and now the world has moved on to other stories and he's going to spend the rest of his life behind bars. Spoiled, entitled little brat.

 

[Izzylizzy]

Has the family come to LM's financial rescue?

Luigi Mangione hires Harvey Weinstein’s prison consultant Craig Rothfeld: report - WFIN Local News

UnitedHealthcare murder suspect Luigi Mangione has retained Craig Rothfeld, a former white-collar inmate turned prison consultant who also worked for Harvey Weinstein.

wfin.com

 

[Sundog]

Yep, and now the world has moved on to other stories and he's going to spend the rest of his life behind bars. Spoiled, entitled little brat.

But the worst part of it, of course, is that two young men just growing into adulthood have lost their father and his parenting in their young lives. Also, BT's wife - even though they lived separately and a block or so way from each other at the time of BT's death - has lost her life partner and childhood sweetheart.

 

[Izzylizzy]

Recorded today.