Had you ever heard of the Luigi Mangione? No.
3:14 PM · Dec 16, 2025
Not publishing something he's showing Leonardi. People's 18 not in evidence. Leonardi's phone records for Dec. 9. Do they reflect calls you mentioned with Holly and others? Scroll up please. yes. offered into evidence
Publishing the call logs on courtroom monitors. 10:39AM missed call. 10:43 talked to Holly for a minute. Clled Hanelly at 10:45AM 10:49 Leonardi called Holly back to say he thinks they may have suspect.
10:52 he called Kenny (chief of detectives) he didnt answer then Kenny called back at 10:53.
Then at 10:58 was Detective Cohen10:59 Leonardi thinks he talked to Det. Klein later says actually he doesnt know who that is he'd have to look
10:59 called Hanelly
11:03 Klein
Nothing further. Marc approaches
So at about 10:45 you spoke to Lt Hanelly from Altoona? Yes. Your recollection first time spoke to anyone at Altoona? Yes
You were going to come take this evidence — you were the lead?
Fair to say you gave him directions? The directions were you dont want anyone to speak to him.
I say directing but I'm also asking them. They dont have to listen to what I have to say. Professional courtesy.
I was the lead supervisor in the homicide squad.
You're investigating homicide.
Your homicide -- pardon the expression -- trumps their fake ID - Marc
Once possibly established that their person in custody was my person of interest, [he asked them not to speak to LM]
You had Mark Rosario name in advance to Dec. 9? Prior, yes.Mark Rosario comes from what sources, hostel? Yes.Came to you in the form of bus ticket that your person of interest took bus in name Mark Rosario? Yes.
When you learned that the person in Altoona had given the name Mark Rosario that was a major step forward is that fair to say? Fair to say.Even before got call from PA they had run the Mark Rosario name and knew nothing had come back in their search
You learned from Hanelly that Mark Rosario was connected to NJ DL yes?Marc accidentally says September 9, says if he ever says September he means December
I believe Leonardi said they already knew Rosario was connected to NJ DL but I got distracted with the Sept comments
I went with multiple people [to Altoona] he drove.This is not just a wild goose chase, this is significant, correct?
Did Altoona show you photographs?
They did not.
But did give you Mark Rosario info
Yes.
Professional courtesy, told them not to speak with LM. You wanted to do that yourself? I wanted to have my investigators speak to Mr. Mangione.You made that very clear? YesThen had subsequent calls with Hanelly. Yes.
You dont know the evidence they had? I didnt know they had a lot of stuff or anything, I got there I knew they had a lto of stuff
Before you left you knew he had firearm, magazine?
Yes
Knew brass collected at scene of crime was 9mm like gun they recovered
Everything Altoona police department had you were going to take as evidence? Depends on what they had, they were not under any mandate.
When I got there, we had conversation, they said they understood I was investigating homicide. Our case trump there so they were more than cooperative. -Leonardi
"I've never been there, I hadn't even heard of it" -Leonardi on why he told Altoona to have all property held, he didnt know if they were going to give it back to LM or loved one so he was making sure.
Envelopes had criminal homicide in envelope. Is that true for every single envelope that property was in? I believe so yesThe criminal homicide was the one you were investigating? Yes. no homicide in altoona pa they were investigation? There was none.
Leonardi testifies he didnt know whether or not LM was given Miranda warnings, says he still doesn't know.
Wouldnt that be something thats important to know? Yes
It would be relevant if he'd been given miranda warnings? Yes.
Until today, noone's told you that? Correct.
Seidemann gave warnings (?) to LM.
Did anyone tell Mangione he was going to be video or audio taped during this interview?
I do not know.
Leonardi doesn't know if PA is two party consent state. Without knowing what the rules were in PA you yourself set up a procedure where LM was going to be audio and video taped [without him knowing]? Leonardi said he was being instructed by Manhattan DA
At one point everyone in the room left.
Mangione was being audio and video taped without anybody there? Do you know if thats legal?
Again I was being guided by legal counsel I had with me.
Are you aware of whether he said certain things to himself while he was in room by himself? Objection sustained.
Used recording device, bodyworn camera, and video through one way mirror. When you do this in NY do you tell the person you're going to be recorded? JS objects as to relevance. Carro asks them to approach
They are talking to judge. Just FYI PA is a two party consent state so they shouldnt be recording someone without telling them.
Marc asks for a point of clarification with the judge and tells Joel and ZK to come up too "You're party to this. I always invite you."
I should note that LM requested an attorney when mirandized by JS I believe, this was said a few minutes ago but this recording news trumped my brain.
I understand the DA is withdrawing these statements -- Marc says he's done?
Now the lawyers are all at the bench. I'm lost as to how much of Leonardi's testimony is withdrawn?
Damn. Knew I should have gone to law school.
That was way more than I needed to post!