NY - UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson fatally shot in Midtown. #3

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  • #441
Adds very little admittedly but this article states that the phone found in the alley "was a burner" according to sources. (we're hearing differing 'sources' on this one).

Also he couldn't resist his cup of coffee after all as someone else highlighted. Both the coffee cup and water bottle have been secured as evidence.

 
  • #442
I’m curious if he was on his own while traveling. Was he at the hotel with other coworkers, friends, or guests? Has anyone heard anything about it?
It sounds like he went alone and stayed in a room with 2 strangers. It was a hostel, a place with tons of solo travelers.
 
  • #443
au contraire

but if we now have assassinations to game the market, as a country we are in big trouble





Market Summary > UnitedHealth Group Inc
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A 1-2% bump in UHG's stock price is a rounding error, certainly not market manipulation, and would have benefited nobody.
 
  • #444
I think the question was about Thompson and not the assassin.
It sounds like he went alone and stayed in a room with 2 strangers. It was a hostel, a place with tons of solo travelers.
 
  • #445
Respectfully...I worked for two of the largest HC companies, the CEOs asst. always attended, ready to make changes in schedule or presentations. The asst. is the right hand person. BT didn't even carry a laptop to the meeting, bet the asst took care of all his needed materials.

Moo...BT, and his support team, (IT, Asst etc) and his CFO,COO, all the subsidiary presidents and CFOs and their assistance, would all be in attendance. Usually from my experience, the support staff arrives several days early with all the equipment, giveaways, handouts, decorations, etc to set up. The Corp folks will spend their time visiting, whining and dining, small elite groups of investors or customers. There's usually a dry run for presenters. Support staff more than likely stayed at the Hilton, corporate executives are always at a separate hotel, I'm thinking the Lux. This type meetings is usually very elaborate, lots of dynamic theatrics, money flows generously for these events.

Corp jets are easy to track on several websites. The meeting was on the Corp website. Hanging around outside the hotel in Monday and Tuesday would have provided much Intel.

Respectfully...all my opinion and a tad bit of experience.
I agree. UHC is the largest healthcare provider in the world by revenue. BT was CEO of UHC and reported only to the CEO of UHG. There’s no expenses spared for how important his presence, demeanor, success, would be at this conference. There were likely multiple assistants responsible for him that traveled.
 
  • #446
I was just thinking about those 2 photos at the hostel where his mask is down. That would be video right? So surely they have more footage of his face while in movement. There might be more detail about his features and expressions, and at different angles.
 
  • #447
Interesting video at link. Somebody knows the shooter's gait. What did shooter put in trash?

Well done, by female employee at hostel. Perhaps when shooter is arrested and convicted this person can share in reward funds? jmo



12/6/2024

The hooded man in the photo is seen smiling, with his face mask pushed down around his neck in a flirtatious moment with a female employee at a hostel on Manhattan's Upper West Side, police sources told multiple news outlets. Upon checking him in, she asked to see his smile.
From the article:

"The NYPD told Yahoo News it could not confirm there were messages on the bullet casings."

Hmmm.
 
  • #448
<modsnip>

I see how the same man in several pictures looks somewhat different in each one. I do believe it is one singular man, though.

In the two hostel pix, we see he’s wearing the same outfit and the background with the sofa etc. is the same. Only the color saturation is different.

IMO he just has that chameleon quality where his face changes when he smiles. It also looks slightly different from the Starbucks picture, but the prominent nose is there, and I have trust in the NYPD to discern whether or not it is the same man. They apparently believe it is, and they know much more than we do.

One of the reasons why I don’t have any social media is because I don’t have patience for so much of the baloney that is posted. I also don’t want to see the vicious commentary that typically follows.

I still believe LE is sorting through multiple tips and will catch him if he’s still in the U.S.

Hoping whatever he threw in that hideous mound of garbage turns out to be valuable to the investigation.

JMO
 
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  • #449
So far, the key pieces of evidence in the investigation include the shooter's electric bike used after the shooting, bullet casings found at the scene, and the hostel where the suspect reportedly stayed beforehand. Police are also analyzing a phone recovered in an alleyway on the gunman's escape route.

https://www.npr.org/2024/12/06/nx-s1-5219927/unitedhealthcare-ceo-shooting-new-york

Since Wednesday's shooting, the company has faced a deluge of online complaints, outrage over the state of U.S. healthcare and anger over denied medical claims.


What's next in the investigation​

Police continue to piece together the suspect's motive and whereabouts on the third day of the investigation.

The Gothamist reported Thursday that the NYPD has deployed dozens of drones to track the suspect's movements and continues to sift through surveillance footage.
 
  • #450
I was just thinking about those 2 photos at the hostel where his mask is down. That would be video right? So surely they have more footage of his face while in movement. There might be more detail about his features and expressions, and at different angles.
I imagine they looked at everything and concluded this was the best they got. In most of the video the face is probably completely obscured by the hood.
 
  • #451
Apparently, police are still searching for the one witness who was near the victim during the attack.

As noted in NPR article posted above.
 
  • #452
Respectfully...I worked for two of the largest HC companies, the CEOs asst. always attended, ready to make changes in schedule or presentations. The asst. is the right hand person. BT didn't even carry a laptop to the meeting, bet the asst took care of all his needed materials.

Moo...BT, and his support team, (IT, Asst etc) and his CFO,COO, all the subsidiary presidents and CFOs and their assistance, would all be in attendance. Usually from my experience, the support staff arrives several days early with all the equipment, giveaways, handouts, decorations, etc to set up. The Corp folks will spend their time visiting, whining and dining, small elite groups of investors or customers. There's usually a dry run for presenters. Support staff more than likely stayed at the Hilton, corporate executives are always at a separate hotel, I'm thinking the Lux. This type meetings is usually very elaborate, lots of dynamic theatrics, money flows generously for these events.

Corp jets are easy to track on several websites. The meeting was on the Corp website. Hanging around outside the hotel in Monday and Tuesday would have provided much Intel.

Respectfully...all my opinion and a tad bit of experience.
I also work for a similar sized entity. It is very unusual for a person of his position to be alone anywhere. Not even as a security concern but there is a lot of prep and multitasking going on and there is always some sort of entourage. Our CEO doesn't even walk down the hall in our own office by himself for very far.

The problem I have with the timing is that Mr. Thompson would not have known exactly where he would be to high precision early that morning. Even if this were an inside job, catching him as he walked in would still have been nearly impossible to coordinate and having him be alone is just so weird I can't even convey to you how unusual that is.

To me this will prove to be some planning and considerable luck. The perp knew someone from UNH would be walking in and waited until he saw someone he either recognized, or that looked like a business guy.

BT was just in the wrong place at the wrong time to be the victim.
 
  • #453
It sounds like he went alone and stayed in a room with 2 strangers. It was a hostel, a place with tons of solo travelers.
I think OP meant Brian, not the shooter :). I'm giggling at the thought of a CEO having to share a room on a business trip, though.
 
  • #454
au contraire

but if we now have assassinations to game the market, as a country we are in big trouble





Market Summary > UnitedHealth Group Inc
553.94 USD −25.03 (4.32%)
today
Dec 6, 12:47 PM EST • Disclaimer
I agree. Someone was LITERALLY gunned down on the street in the financial capital of our country, and that is not "good for business" even if someone says it doesn't matter. (People saying it doesn't matter scare me just as much as the killing, tbh.)


jmo
 
  • #455
MOD NOTE: Fake arrest is being cleaned up!

Victim blaming posts are also being cleaned up!

Thanks for your patience.
 
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  • #456

CVS and other health care companies are scrubbing social media of top executive pictures.

IMO - this is a smart move.

BT's death has definitely shed light on the anger many people have bubbling just under the surface in America for health insurance and providers.
CVS is UHCs #1 pharmacy
 
  • #457
I agree. UHC is the largest healthcare provider in the world by revenue. BT was CEO of UHC and reported only to the CEO of UHG. There’s no expenses spared for how important his presence, demeanor, success, would be at this conference. There were likely multiple assistants responsible for him that traveled.
Which brings us back to...why was he alone walking to the Hilton.
 
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  • #459
From the article:

"The NYPD told Yahoo News it could not confirm there were messages on the bullet casings."

Hmmm.
i mean, i wouldn't expect them to given that it's an active, ongoing investigation
jmo
 
  • #460
It certainly is possible, as I mentioned upthread. There are numerous ebike rental establishments in NYC that lease bikes to "deliveristas"(or whomever else might want one) on a weekly, monthly, or longer basis. There are even lease-to-own deals available, and the advertisements for some of these places even specify that no SSN, bank card, or background check is necessary.
It's also quite possible that the suspect acquired the bike on the grey market...

I would think a large deposit would be required on a cash rental.
 
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