NY - UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson fatally shot in Midtown. #3

[wibbleflea]

I would imagine a name was written on the coffee cup that matched the name on the timestamped receipt for his order. Or do they only do that for specialty drinks?

It was reported earlier that he bought water and two energy bars. Do we have newer reporting around that?

 

[setyourselffree]

So they caught him on video after he exited Central Park? If so, why can’t they track where he went after that?

Me thinks they know way more and are keeping some of this information close to their chest because they don't want him to know how close they are to finding him. That said, I guess any of these CCTV camera operators could go straight to the media with any footage without PD consent. But perhaps for the greater good, they won't.

 

[SleuthJan]

It just keeps bugging me that United Healthcare was struggling with this huge ransomware attack that affected not only patients and their care, their prescriptions, their physicians and appointments and medical records. I know that medical practices in my area were really hurting from the inability to process and receive UHC payments and some of their employees were actually laid off.

I just wonder if someone put a HUGE target on UHC and this is just part of the harassment, funded by the $22 million UHC finally paid.

Someone with a destructive streak truly powerful to cause great distress in many lives, without any conscience.

Yes anti establishment sentiment.

 

[fridaybaker]

I just think any accomplice would have been located by now. This person would have been the one informing him of BT’s movements, and then headed to the park to dispose of the evidence on the killer’s person.

I just don’t think this person exists. Cameras would have captured him.

How would cameras know who he was? The only reason we know who the killer is is that we saw him aim the gun and shoot Mr. Thompson. Then, based on clothing, were able to track him.

What if there is no interaction between the accomplise and the killer, or BT, caught on camera?

 

[Herat]

I think he does too. If you look closely at the video from West 85th, it looks like it's a near-empty black backpack on his back. Which means it's not likely the other one is shoved in there, but who knows. It's not close/clear enough to really see.

The jacket we see the shooter wearing fits trimly, not with a lot of bulk.

The cycle photo, although fuzzy, seems to show a lumpy back to him. Either he had on a partially-filled black backpack (having gotten rid of the grey one), or his coat was actually loose enough to billow out at the back a bit. But that's not what I get from the Starbucks and the shooting photos.

 

[Inthedetails]

refined!!! that was the adjective I was looking for (and I could not find in my mind at that precise moment) yesterday when I wrote about getting dancer & pianist vibes from the killer because of his hands and gait.

I also think he looks fit and am wondering if he worked out during his 10 days in NYC. My athletic family members would go crazy going that long without working out, doing something sporty, training, etc. Plus, he needed to keep sharp for the Big Day.

jmo

 

[MissPie]

Me thinks they know way more and are keeping some of this information close to their chest because they don't want him to know how close they are to finding him. That said, I guess any of these CCTV camera operators could go straight to the media with any footage without PD consent. But perhaps for the greater good, they won't.

And possibly keeping other recovered evidence quiet as well, at least for now.

 

[indicolite22]

Does anyone have a link to the exact last time and place where the shooter was filmed wearing the grey, Peak Design backpack? Has that been made public? It's reported that he was seen cycling into Central Park but did he still have the grey PD backpack on at that point?

Yes, in the photo on the bike before the park he has the light colored backpack on. It doesn't seem empty. What was in it? The weapon? A change of clothes? In the video of him cycling after the park there no visible backpack, but there's also no visible clothes change. Did he leave behind the backpack with his stuff still in it?

 

[MassGuy]

How would cameras know who he was? The only reason we know who the killer is is that we saw him aim the gun and shoot Mr. Thompson. Then, based on clothing, were able to track him.

What if there is no interaction between them caught on camera?

You look at the footage that captured BT. The main purpose of an accomplice would be to track his movements.

So not necessarily an interaction between the gunman and an accomplice, but between the accomplice and BT.

I do not believe he exists though.

 

[VAres67]

I just think any accomplice would have been located by now. This person would have been the one informing him of BT’s movements, and then headed to the park to dispose of the evidence on the killer’s person.

I just don’t think this person exists. Cameras would have captured him.

It also feels like a very tight timeline for an accomplice. Unless they each had e-bikes, etc. It all would be very close.

 

[TTF14]

It's fairly uncommon. It's a backpack made by Peak Design – well made, expensive and designed for photographers but also for everyday carry. It looks like a 20L in a colour that Peak Design calls Ash. I have a Peak Design bag – it's great but, at least here in the UK, I rarely see them in use.

https://www.peakdesign.com/products/everyday-backpack?Size=20L&Color=Ash

Thank you! So, how was it determined it's a Peak Design backpack?

 

[citizen_sleuth]

Thank you! So, how was it determined it's a Peak Design backpack?

The founder and CEO of Peak Design called the NYPD tip line and identified it as one of his company's products. He said the backpack is an older model of the company's Everyday Backpack, which was produced from 2016 to 2019.

A Backpack Maker Believes He Identified the Shooting Suspect’s Bag

Peter Dering, the founder and chief executive of Peak Design, says he called the N.Y.P.D. tip line on Wednesday after receiving a wave of messages showing the suspect carrying a distinctive backpack.

www.nytimes.com

 

[setyourselffree]

The jacket we see the shooter wearing fits trimly, not with a lot of bulk.

The cycle photo, although fuzzy, seems to show a lumpy back to him. Either he had on a partially-filled black backpack (having gotten rid of the grey one), or his coat was actually loose enough to billow out at the back a bit. But that's not what I get from the Starbucks and the shooting photos.

I agree that the gray one is likely not with him any longer. How long till they do sonar at the Central Park lake? I suspect, at the very least, that the gun is in there.

 

[armchairagatha]

Me thinks they know way more and are keeping some of this information close to their chest because they don't want him to know how close they are to finding him. That said, I guess any of these CCTV camera operators could go straight to the media with any footage without PD consent. But perhaps for the greater good, they won't.

Did the killer know there were no cameras in Central Park? I assume he did since that was his first stop after the killing. So why wouldn’t he change into a different set of clothes in a restroom there? I am not 100% convinced that is the killer they spotted leaving Central Park. Did he go there just to get rid of the backpack which has not been found?

 

[VAres67]

I’ve been wondering about how the shooter checked out of the hostel for a night and then checked back in. He checked out of the hostel the morning of the shooting, right?

I wonder if possibly an assassination was supposed to happen that first check out day. It didn’t, so he goes back and again aims (bad pun) for 12/4 being the day. Regardless, he either had all the stars align for his (for now) escape OR he really did have a very solid plan.

 

[MesquiteO21]

can someone post the bus schedule again? sorry i tried going back through the pages but didn't see it
thank you

 

[TTF14]

The founder and CEO of Peak Design called the NYPD tip line and identified it as one of his company's products. He said the backpack is an older model of the company's Everyday Backpack, which was produced from 2016 to 2019.

A Backpack Maker Believes He Identified the Shooting Suspect’s Bag

Peter Dering, the founder and chief executive of Peak Design, says he called the N.Y.P.D. tip line on Wednesday after receiving a wave of messages showing the suspect carrying a distinctive backpack.

www.nytimes.com

Ahhh, thank you. And thank you for your patience, as I'm sure it's been discussed already in this fast-moving thread!

 

[SK174]

I’m going to respectfully disagree. The bike could have easily been stashed in the greenery in one of those roundabouts in the pedestrian walkway (which was probably dark/not very populated at that hour—it’s why the bike was there in that walkway in the first place).

No one was hanging around there reading or visiting anyone—and we saw how the one bystander scurried away from the shooter. No one was doing any tackling—the shots were quiet, and very few people even fully watched what went down or were prepared to act.

I hear that you’re convinced there’s “no way” but it makes much more sense that he just placed the bike frame in advance, popped the battery on it on before Starbucks, and that he just left the bike ready to go for a few minutes. There are magnetic locks etc that are very fast to unlock, and e-bikes start with a push button. The guy practiced this.

I feel pretty sure that there wasn’t another person there to send him away on a bike, for that person also would potentially be apprehended. I think It dramatically increases the likelihood of being caught to have 2 people on site, and not the other way around…

All MOO

I have to agree with you. As someone that lived in NYC for years, the perception is that it’s much more crowded than it actually is at certain hours. You could walk multiple city blocks at that hour and encounter few if any people.

And while I know people have the perception that crime is rampant, it wouldn’t shock me at all for someone to stash a bike in that area at that hour risking theft. Plus, if it got stolen in those minutes, I’m sure he had a plan B.

 

[Curiousobserver]

Photo of the perp leaving the 57th street subway at 6:15, without a bike. Where did he get the bike?

F train subway line map: F Train (6 Avenue Local) Line Map

If that is him, where did he come from?

 

[Muddy K]

This is not just "some angry guy." No way. He was prepared and had enough experience to tune out distractions and enough confidence that he could pull it off and literally walk away.

jmopinion

Snipped by me for focus. Completely agree. "..pull it off and walk away." That's exactly what he did, it appears.

No matter his seeming carelessness, he was focused on the task, completed it and moved on per plan. IMO, he's in a little bit of a different league, maybe modeled some of his choices as though he were pulling this off in a virtual gaming world. JMO.