NY - UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson fatally shot in Midtown. #3

[acutename]

According to CNN, he got in a cab and went to the GW Bridge Bus Station at 178th Street and Broadway (it is a Port Authority bus terminal but not the Port Authority Bus Terminal, which is in Midtown)

do people think he was heading north then? Canada? Albany? Not going back to Atlanta?
I am wondering if he has a few fake identity documents.

 

[LionofJudah]

CNN on the search for the backpack.

Former FBI agent: Possibility someone picked up backpack and walked away with it. They'll speak with homeless people, etc.

They'll be able to determine a search radius based on when he entered the park, and when he left.

It was a nice backpack, anyone could have taken it.

 

[acutename]

I don't buy it. Antifa aren't communists, and united health, as scummy as health insurance companies are, are not fascists.

To me this isn't a political hit. It's motivated by revenge or money.

Do people think there are undisclosed family members or half family members or something like that?

 

[Herat]

Deleted, incorrect information

 

[Inthedetails]

We should be able to see what busses departed the GWB bus terminal Wednesday morning and where they were headed. I think almost all of them are to NJ but we might be able to figure out where he was headed.

jmo

 

[Kona3064]

Killer believes that someone very close to him (maybe himself) was wronged by UHC, and perhaps BT in particular. It could be a denied claim, cancelled insurance, wrongful termination (or, something else employment related). Those words he chose for the casings he left at the scene scream lawsuit to me. Why bother with any type of silencer in this plan? He had to know there would be other people on the street in the morning in NYC. Maybe it was for less immediate attention, but I think he may have planned to catch BT one-on-one indoors. This may have been plan B. I think he was so determined to do this that he didn't care if he was killed in the act. He took a big chance, and I agree with everyone that posted about this being very planned out.

Interesting. Do the CEOs actually get involved in denials? I used to work for physicians at a level 1 trauma center and we had to get peer to peer reviews all the time. I have never had one go to the CEO. It was always MDs doing the reviews and talking to the treating physicians. They were the step above the nurses who did the second denial after it was denied by the lay people working for the insurance. We always had the different company policies for every procedure on hand prior to trying to get things approved. It was a lot of time and work in many cases. But i never had any go to the CEO who isn’t usually medically trained. Many of the denial policies have been in place for a very long time. They never take into consideration that every patient is different and medicine isn’t exact and can vary by patient. They have checklists they follow and do not deviate.

 

[Nikynoo]

We don't know when the maskless image was taken. Presumably it was over the several days he stayed in that hostel (perhaps at check in).

The Starbucks video was taken the day of the murder (minutes before).

I think we may be talking at cross purpose. I am discussing the photo where the suspect is leaving the subway.

ETA this photo

 

[NottaYutz]

With all due respect, an "alleyway" seems equal to a garbage can in my opinion and the article specifically states the coffee cup was dropped in a "garbage can"

Haven't lived in Manhattan for decades, but I believe Shubert Alley is not a conventional alley. It's a pedestrian/tourist walkway linking streets. Here you go: Shubert Alley - Wikipedia

 

[wibbleflea]

In this video of him allegedly leaving the F strain station before the shooting, doesn't it look like the backback hangs differently than in the image of it at the Starbucks and at the shooting? It looks more criss-cross to me in the first image than the more aligned with shoulders in the other two. Each screenshot is from the linked video.
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It looks like all the padded inserts (which give the backpack its shape) have been removed or collapsed. Interesting difference. In the video of him walking up the stairs, there's less much bulk in the upper part of the bag.

 

[Chimera]

So everyone that ever dropped their phone did it intentionally?

Most people want to hang on to their phones, so I'm going with he accidently dropped it and didn't realize it ?
Otoh, if it was a burner then he was disposing of it quickly.
Omo.

 

[MassGuy]

I think we may be talking at cross purpose. I am discussing the photo where the suspect is leaving the subway.

Lol we are. Regardless, these are people who do this for a living. Are we sure law enforcement even released that subway image? I know a bunch of this images and videos didn’t come from them. The media went to these places and obtained them independently.

ETA: I just checked and that video was clearly taken by a cell phone from the computer playing it (the video is moving when it shouldn’t be).

That means it came from the media and was not a law enforcement release. Probably a different person.

 

[JennieM]

Police say person of interest arrived to New York via Manhattan bus terminal​

We now have some new details about how the person of interest in Brian Thompson's death arrived to New York City, 10 days before the shooting.

Police sources tell the BBC's US partner CBS News that the man arrived at the Port Authority bus terminal in Midtown Manhattan at around 21:00 local time on 24 November.

He was identified with surveillance video of him walking through the terminal, which they then used to trace him back to a Greyhound bus.

Police have said earlier that they believe the alleged suspect was on a bus that was coming from Atlanta, Georgia.

This method of travel, however, presents a challenge for investigators. He could have paid cash for his ticket, which does not require a valid ID for purchase, making it difficult to trace his identity.

Police are now working with the Port Authority to determine if he did use an ID at any point, according to CBS. They are also investigating at which point he purchased a bus ticket to New York.

Live updates: Backpack found as NY health boss shooting suspect search expands to Georgia

NYPD says the fatal shooting of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson in Manhattan was "a brazen, targeted attack".

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[armchairagatha]

It was a nice backpack, anyone could have taken it.

Could be why he had a nice backpack in the first place. He knew someone (meaning some homeless person) would quickly pick it up once he discarded it. If it was a grubby one, it may not have gone as quickly. That does explain something I have been struggling with - why the heck did this guy carry such a high end and memorable backpack instead of a nondescript one.

 

[Jinkasaurus]

Another visual comparison of the gray backpack shots .... notice how the straps attach to the bag as well as the shape of the bag.

First photo from this article, second photo from this video

 

[acutename]

Is the gray backpack model still being sold? Did the perp buy it in NYC? How bulky is it when folded?

A Backpack Maker Believes He Identified the Shooting Suspect’s Bag (paywall)

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.peakdesign.com/products/everyday-backpack&ved=2ahUKEwi--NnIhJSKAxVvhIkEHUDoOBwQFnoECBcQAQ&usg=AOvVaw3ywQeCOoGw06kEiD6yfEhE

expensive, still sold, still in use, etc.

 

[Baby baby Jane]

there is a lot of chatter about a veterinarian gun. A lot of experts on firearms forums are debunking this, I believe based on the ejecting location of the casing, and the movement on the slide. Also, if your getting a gun from “the projects”, it probably isn’t a veterinarian gun.

B&T only call it “veterinary” because saying it’s used to despatch “racehorses” is method to talk about attributes of this weapon without explicitly saying it’s great for killing people.
Doubting many veterinarian actually buy this ….

 

[jiminy]

I'm finding it impossible to keep up, so apologies if this has been covered. Do we know roughly when the smiling hostel photo was taken? I had a passing thought that perhaps he grew a beard under the mask since then. Or at least heavy stubble. Ditch backpack and remove mask and ta-dah!

 

[bestill]

I think we may be talking at cross purpose. I am discussing the photo where the suspect is leaving the subway.

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This looks like a woman to me. JMO

 

[whitelilac]

Trying to work and catch up at the same time.
So he's left NYC, as I suspected.
Another bus trip. They must be perusing all the surveillance at that terminal. Hopefully they can establish which bus to where, and which stops.
Again, how is he financing all this travel?
He could be in Idaho or God knows where now.

 

[acutename]

Is the gray backpack model still being sold? Did the perp buy it in NYC? How bulky is it when folded?

A Backpack Maker Believes He Identified the Shooting Suspect’s Bag (paywall)

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.peakdesign.com/products/everyday-backpack&ved=2ahUKEwi--NnIhJSKAxVvhIkEHUDoOBwQFnoECBcQAQ&usg=AOvVaw3ywQeCOoGw06kEiD6yfEhE

expensive, still sold, still in use, etc.