NY - UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson fatally shot in Midtown. #6

[Sleuthster]

Exactly. It's not known to where he traveled, or how.
He CAME to NYC by a bus that originated in Atlanta, but it's not confirmed anywhere that he went back to Atlanta. I would highly doubt that anyway, with investigators crawling around that city.

I wonder if there was a bus going to Toronto around the time he arrived at terminal. He may have left the country and actually has a visa or passport. To be honest this was a planned out shooting. He could have taken the bus from anywhere to Atlanta and then switched buses in Atlanta to come to NYC. We don't even know his name or anything about him. I do believe he's of western asian descent Levant region from photos we've seen and there is a large community in Toronto

 

[kamare]

At the risk of sounding stupid...Can someone explain what a HOSTEL is? I can't seem to wrap my brain around rooming with other people I don't know. But it sounds like something that is common.

A hostel is a type of lodging that offers shared rooms and facilities at a lower cost than a hotel. Hostels are known for being a social experience, where guests can meet new people and make friends.

When I was in college, it was common for students to stay at hostels when traveling through Europe.

 

[annpats]

My opinion is that he probably doesn’t fully understand how DNA works.

Well, none of us fully understand how DNA works (unless we are geneticists).

But we have an idea. Even most young people would be aware of DNA, I think, and know that anything you've touched can have DNA extracted, or your hair, or. saliva etc.

DNA is nothing new, law enforcement have been using it as standard for over 20 years.

 

[annpats]

Could someone he knows be afraid to ring Crimestoppers because they worry he could hack the msg?

Payphone?

Anonymous letter?

 

[K.jill]

Random thought: if Brian T. had been wearing a bulletproof vest he may have survived
While it is not likely he would wear one regularly (heavy and hot) it is not outside the realm of possibility he would wear one of he had been getting threats.

 

[NoSpoonFeeding]

When and How Fingerprints Form - Lozier Institute

Fingerprints are unique because of the fetus's size, location, and movement patterns...

lozierinstitute.org

I’m sorry, I should have included a link.
I’ll add it now to my earlier post.

Fingerprints are formed by how the developing baby touches the mother’s womb,

It might be the way it's worded in that article. I've heard the wive's tale that baby pushing fingers against the womb causes fingerprnts.

The frictions that may occur in the womb don't determine the patterns and it's not the reason for the existence of fingerprints.

by Sarah Leupen, Senior Lecturer in Biological Sciences, UMBC:

" after about 10 weeks, a deeper layer of skin, called the basal layer, starts growing faster than the layers above it, which makes it “buckle” and fold. The expanding lower layer ends up scrunched and bunched beneath the outside layer.

These folds eventually cause the surface layers of the skin to fold too, and by the time a fetus is 17 weeks old – about halfway through a pregnancy – its fingerprints are set.

Although this folding process might sound random, the overall size and shape of fingerprints are influenced by the genes you get from your parents. So you probably share some fingerprint patterns with your family members.

How did I get my own unique set of fingerprints?

The details of your fingerprints are influenced by many other factors besides genes. <a class="continue" href="https://umbc.edu/stories/how-did-i-get-my-own-unique-set-of-fingerprints/">Continue Reading<span> How did I get my own unique set of fingerprints?</span></a>

umbc.edu

 

[Warwick7]

It is interesting how people given the same set of information come to an entirely different conclusion. My opinion is that he did not do anything accidentally or unintentionally, and that he has a sophisticated understanding of how to kill someone and get away.

I suspect that in the 10 days prior to the murder, he refined his plan by doing multiple dry runs and then made adjustments and improvements to the plan.

Agreed!!!

 

[ames85]

Police are never going to announce every single development in the case. So far, they've released enough that someone who knows the suspect would be able to identify them.

They're not just building a case to get an arrest warrant, they're trying to secure a conviction.

 

[MassGuy]

Random thought: if Brian T. had been wearing a bulletproof best he may have survived.
While it is not likely he would wear one regularly (heavy and hot) it is not outside the realm of possibility he would wear one of he had been getting threats.

I think if he felt compelled to wear a vest, then he'd be compelled to have security with him. This guy would have been quickly neutralized if the latter was present, especially considering the type of weapon he was using. This was really the only situation where a gun like that would be effective (no security).

 

[Curiousobserver]

Well, none of us fully understand how DNA works (unless we are geneticists).

But we have an idea. Even most young people would be aware of DNA, I think, and know that anything you've touched can have DNA extracted, or your hair, or. saliva etc.

DNA is nothing new, law enforcement have been using it as standard for over 20 years.

The Starbucks stop seems incredibly reckless if it wasn’t intended to create a false trail.

 

[Stratocaster]

Catching up to a fast moving thread...........has there been any public statement or interview with the woman he was seen flirting with, pulling his mask aside, checking into the hostel?

 

[Baby baby Jane]

Imagine a dorm room. It's like that. Here's a picture from the HI Hostel where he stayed, so you get the idea..

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I was wondering if he took his sheets & towels away with him …. Sheets would be dna goldmine …

 

[eddie_van]

Police are never going to announce every single development in the case. So far, they've released enough that someone who knows the suspect would be able to identify them.

They're not just building a case to get an arrest warrant, they're trying to secure a conviction.

yes but usually if they have a name they release it. granted, maybe in this case they have their reasons not to, but that would be unusual

 

[Curiousobserver]

I think if he felt compelled to wear a vest, then he'd be compelled to have security with him. This guy would have been quickly neutralized if the latter was present, especially considering the type of weapon he was using. This was really the only situation where a gun like that would be effective (no security).

Body armor is illegal in NY. State Penal Law Section 270.21: § 270.21

 

[HungryBrain]

MIDTOWN, Manhattan (PIX11) – The CEO of UnitedHealthcare was killed in a Midtown shooting Wednesday morning, sources told PIX11 News.

Brian Thompson, 50, was shot just before 7 a.m. near a hotel on 54th Street between 6th and 7th Avenues, sources said. Video posted to Citizen showed police tape on the Midtown street as police arrived at the scene.

He was rushed to an area hospital and later died. Thompson was in New York City for an investors meeting at a Hilton hotel, according to sources.


The shooting is being investigated as a possibly targeted hit, sources said.

https://pix11.com/news/crime/man-critically-injured-in-midtown-shooting-nypd/

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Has anyone found this website yet? the URL is the same as what was carved onto the bullets he ejected. Also should be noted the gun didn't jam, he purposely ejected these three rounds. The bullet that hit the back of the targets right calf must have been a misfire when he was ejecting. Imagine holding the gun in right hand, then slowly turn it sideways to eject and pay attention to where your barrel is pointed, down and to the right, which is where the targets calf would be. About
Wiki about the book: Delay, Deny, Defend - Wikipedia
Look at this book title!

 

[nitsirk]

I wonder if there was a bus going to Toronto around the time he arrived at terminal. He may have left the country and actually has a visa or passport. To be honest this was a planned out shooting. He could have taken the bus from anywhere to Atlanta and then switched buses in Atlanta to come to NYC. We don't even know his name or anything about him. I do believe he's of western asian descent Levant region from photos we've seen and there is a large community in Toronto

And his manifesto is in the mail? Canada Post is on strike and no mail is moving.

I've tossed this idea around myself but why would someone from Canada want to kill a health insurance exec? A relative with health issues in the States or a hired assassin possibly?

 

[Inthedetails]

I was wondering if he took his sheets & towels away with him …. Sheets would be dna goldmine …

He left everything behind, imo. He doesn't care what is found.

NYPD know he stayed at the hostel and they have his DNA so sheets aren't necessary anyway, imo.

jmo

 

[KaylynnCouture]

Who Was Brian Thompson?

Lots of information on where he grew up, his educational career and professional career, statements from his high school principal, etc.

By all accounts, he seemed like a very devoted father and loved by a lot of people. Regardless of your thoughts on healthcare in the US, UHC specifically, etc. this is still heartbreaking.

 

[KaylynnCouture]

Catching up to a fast moving thread...........has there been any public statement or interview with the woman he was seen flirting with, pulling his mask aside, checking into the hostel?

No public statement. She hasn't even been identified...probably for her safety.

 

[avalonisland]

He did stay in a hostel. He could have slept in a homeless shelter, or in a protected corner in the subway, or abandoned building if he was super concerned about DNA. I know it's winter and very cold, but I do think he could have scoped out a spot somewhere. Doesn't seem he was too concerned about DNA (why?), nor about being around people (other than always wearing a mask).

Perhaps he planted the backpack (maybe he purchased 2) full of monopoly money in Central Park but disposed of actual backpack he was wearing at time of killing somewhere else? He was in NYC near Central Park for like 10 days and had plenty of time to plan. I think this was an inside job- someone who was familiar with the CEO maybe at work or on personal level who communicated with killer up until right before killing. Interesting that police have not released victim's hotel video from when victim left his hotel. Maybe victim was originally not alone leaving hotel he was staying at across the street.