NY - UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson fatally shot in Midtown. #6

[Chimera]

While we wait for LE to nab him ... in a way --it might be easier to slip away -- even in the busy city with a multitude of security cameras -- then it would be in a small rural town ?
Think about it, in a city people are walking/cycling/driving here and there and no one is on the alert.
Outside of the cameras that recorded the murder and the poor person who hurried away right after, no one else seemed to notice.
Whomever they are, I'm sorry for them.
How traumatizing.

I'm curious if anyone in the hotel lobby heard anything or not ?

In a quieter and more isolated area, a car or person who might be unknown to the locals is going to stand out !
Just my .02.

 

[wibbleflea]

What would have alerted border agents? He’d have crossed on Wednesday evening and his face wasn’t known for days. It took days to find link him to the hostel and then find that footage. His name is almost definitely still unknown – there’d have been no need for today’s release of extra photographs if police already knew his identity.

On Wednesday night (or Thursday), the shooter would have been able to board a plane to anywhere using his real passport. His face wasn’t known, either to law enforcement or to any immigration or border agents. And I strongly suspect his name is still unknown.

 

[Stargazer90]

I used to wonder how he knew that too, but unless I'm wrong, it seems like the shooter shot him outside the hilton, which is where the conference was, not the hotel BT stayed at. so the shooter really doesn't need to know what hotel BT was at at all. he just staked out the conference hotel.

The terrorist had inside information.

 

[nao]

I've been saying the same thing, at home, esp since there are statements circulating on the internet that claim to be from pediatricians disgruntled at lack of coverage for the kids they care for. These are anonymous and the result of my own research, so mods may take this down.

But it did occur to me that if this perp was a doctor, things might play out differently for him, when captured. That's why I was asking yesterday if this guy appears to be college age or doctor age to WSers.

I think he looks more grad student/doctor aged. Just my opinion!

Moo...oops didn't get original quote....but many doctors have 2 personalities...they have to, not get emotionally involved in their patients suffering. They have to be detached. The shooter is someone who can detach. Shooter is just cold about it. Does not seem to be any emotions shown..moo

 

[Warwick7]

“The man was checked out of the hostel, where guests are automatically checked out if they don’t show at the desk by a certain time. Police don’t believe he stayed someplace else and checked back into the same hostel the next day”
How does someone go away and come back the next day without staying somewhere else? What

I believe he came back late. They need to check in at the desk when they arrived. It looks like he checked out but he didn't. He resumed his stay.

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[HungryBrain]

Agree - my bet is on terrorist or hired hitman rather than an ideological doctor. This guy was just carrying out a job he was hired for and then got out of there as quickly as he could. He is probably considered one of the best in his field (mercenary killer) and was paid top dollar for his work by whoever masterminded this. He was also given clear instructions on what to do (fire 3 shots to leave behind the messages etc) that he blindly executed. JMO

I’ve been thinking about this too Could have been paid top dollar. Which means it’s not his first one obviously and it means he has been paid before. Meaning he would have plenty of funding, and plenty of access to other criminals to purchase things like the small machines to make fake IDs or yes even latex face mask or that unique pistol. Which is why I think the hostel was more of an operation security choice rather than a price thing.. Also could have had access to purchase or bribe people for information about the CEO’s hotel or plans, could have gotten into one of their group chats. I mean if he’s a pro list could actually go forever.

 

[eddie_van]

While we wait for LE to nab him ... in a way --it might be easier to slip away -- even in the busy city with a multitude of security cameras -- then it would be in a small rural town ?
Think about it, in a city people are walking/cycling/driving here and there and no one is on the alert.
Outside of the cameras that recorded the murder and the poor person who hurried away right after, no one else seemed to notice.
Whomever they are, I'm sorry for them.
How traumatizing.

I'm curious if anyone in the hotel lobby heard anything or not ?

In a quieter and more isolated area, a car or person who might be unknown to the locals is going to stand out !
Just my .02.

He needs to get to an area that isn't under constant 24/7 surveillance before he can try blending in somewhere. Otherwise he will just be continuously tracked.

 

[caradana]

I used to wonder how he knew that too, but unless I'm wrong, it seems like the shooter shot him outside the hilton, which is where the conference was, not the hotel BT stayed at. so the shooter really doesn't need to know what hotel BT was at at all. he just staked out the conference hotel.

Sharing my running theory on this, based on easily 300+ financial services conferences worked in midtown: 9 times out of 10, there is a dry run the afternoon before, a dress rehearsal of sorts. (You never want your CEO feeling like he’s not sure what he’s doing technologically with mikes and earpieces and teleprompters, and you never want him walking out there blind to announce nine figure earnings). I believe BT was at the IC site the afternoon before, and he walked back after to the hotel where he was staying, probably with multiple colleagues as well as with a relatively large and obtrusive security team. They probably changed in their rooms, met back up in the lobby and had an amazing dinner and cocktails somewhere within 20 blocks. (If i had to guess: Avra). My MOO guess is that the shooter saw at least two, if not three, returns to and departures from that hotel by BH in the 24 hours before. He picked up on the preferences.

 

[Warwick7]

He was shot outside of the Hilton but the thought is if BT was staying at the Hilton, he could’ve gotten to the meeting without leaving the building. Hence the assumption that the shooter knew he wasn’t staying at Hilton.

Yep!! Great point!!

 

[Suburgatory2014]

“The man was checked out of the hostel, where guests are automatically checked out if they don’t show at the desk by a certain time. Police don’t believe he stayed someplace else and checked back into the same hostel the next day”
How does someone go away and come back the next day without staying somewhere else? What

Maybe they do the automatic check out around 11pm - midnight every day but he arrived back to the hostel shortly after that (like 1am) and sorted it out with the front desk.

 

[eddie_van]

Sharing my running theory on this, based on easily 300+ financial services conferences worked in midtown: 9 times out of 10, there is a dry run the afternoon before, a dress rehearsal of sorts. (You never want your CEO feeling like he’s not sure what he’s doing technologically with mikes and earpieces and teleprompters, and you never want him walking out there blind to announce nine figure earnings). I believe BT was at the IC site the afternoon before, and he walked back after to the hotel where he was staying, probably with multiple colleagues as well as with a relatively large and obtrusive security team. They probably changed in their rooms, met back up in the lobby and had an amazing dinner and cocktails somewhere within 20 blocks. (If i had to guess: Avra). My MOO guess is that the shooter saw at least two, if not three, returns to and departures from that hotel by BH in the 24 hours before. He picked up on the preferences.

yes good point. he probably staked out the hilton for many days, knowing that this is where the conference was.

 

[Arkay]

When I saw the mask , it occurred to me about a dr . They take an oath to save lives , lives are being lost , maybe he thought to stop with killing one & saving all the others ?

Doctors take the Hippocratic Oath to “first, do no harm.”

I don’t think this man looks old enough to even be a doctor yet. At the most he could be in med school, but not have done his residency yet and not be in practice long enough to anguish over the deadly games played by the big insurance companies.

Nobody who wants to be a doctor is going to murder someone in cold blood to “save all the others.”

Masks are still worn by many to protect against disease, and in this case to hide his identity. Ever since Covid, a mask does not equal “doctor.”

He wore a balaclava to hide his face before he wore a surgical mask.

Not a doctor.

IMO

 

[m00c0w]

On Wednesday night (or Thursday), the shooter would have been able to board a plane to anywhere using his real passport. His face wasn’t known, either to law enforcement or to any immigration or border agents. And I strongly suspect his name is still unknown.

Eh, that would be very risky as the subject wouldn't have known whether police had identified him or not at that point. Far safer to cross a land border and then take a flight from there.

JMO

 

[jesse]

I still cannot figure how he was allowed to escape from NY city: they have cameras on every corner for goodness sake---they tracked him here, they tracked him there, and then they lost him!!! SMH

He moved SO fast, ditched any identifying accoutrements (e-bike, backpack) within 15 or 20 minutes. IAnd he was in the park much of that time. They had no idea what direction he even went at that point. They just never even really had a chance imo.

 

[acutename]

I've been saying the same thing, at home, esp since there are statements circulating on the internet that claim to be from pediatricians disgruntled at lack of coverage for the kids they care for. These are anonymous and the result of my own research, so mods may take this down.

But it did occur to me that if this perp was a doctor, things might play out differently for him, when captured. That's why I was asking yesterday if this guy appears to be college age or doctor age to WSers.

I think he looks more grad student/doctor aged. Just my opinion!

there are medical professionals who have big beefs with insurance companies- he could have been a younger medical professional- IMO. Video: Activists shut down United Healthcare HQ during summer 2024 protest | Daily Mail Online

 

[branmuffin]

I think they're frustrated, and they're annoyed by the behavior of their mayor yesterday. At this point, where the FBI is involved, I'd expect the updates to come from them vs the NYPD.

Eric Adams used to be a cop. He was promoted to captain during his career. It's no secret that LE regularly give out misinformation to rattle a suspect. Because it's possible the criminal will make mistakes. So as much as it sounds like he was grandstanding saying they knew who he was, etc, he was using an age old ploy of messing with the perp in the hopes he made mistakes. Unfortunately, for Adams he's kind of persona non grata at the moment in NYC and his proclamation may not have been received well by the investigation.

 

[RobSA]

Remember, the Shooter specifically parked the bike at the Ziegfeld, which is next to the Lux and across the street from the side entrance to the Hilton, which didn't open until 8 am. He was clearly expecting BT to come to the Hilton walking from that direction. Otherwise he would have been waiting near the front door of the Hilton.

 

[Deleted member 110281]

Exactly. It's considered a more humane way to put down horses. Source: Sister does Horse/big animal veterinary. She says the amount of time it takes for drugs to be administered via IV can lead to horse suffering.

She does not like and is devoted to non-suffering for animals. And she's a horse owner and a horse person.

Even if she's wrong, she feels better about silent, rapid bullets (as did my dad, after service in WW2).

IMO. All this is beside the point except that maybe it pertains to the killer's state of mind.

I am still catching up on this fast moving thread. I am not familiar wirh the gun - but it sounds like a great way to put a large animal down quietly when there are other prey animals around (cattle and horses). Big noises spook them. Plus, even without a noise, they are very intuitive when one of their own passes and can act out in distress.

 

[wibbleflea]

Eric Adams

This was cleared up several threads ago, repeatedly. The Eric Adams comment has been clarified – he was asked whether the shooter’s name was known, replied to say that they wouldn’t be releasing that and his office later clarified his statement. Adams had meant that they wouldn’t be saying whether or not they had his name. The mayor’s wording was a car crash. Every report refers to the NY Post article, which now says this:

Mayor Adams declined to say whether investigators already had the suspect’s name when asked at a Harlem event.

“We don’t want to release that now,” Adams said. “If we do, we are basically giving a tip to the person we are seeking and we do not want to give him an upper hand at all. Let him continue to believe he can hide behind the mask. We revealed his face. We’re going to reveal who he is and we’re going to bring him to justice.”

The original misinterpretation of his remarks made it across the world. The corrections did not. The gaffe that keeps giving makes its reappearance here every few hours.

‘The net is tightening’ on UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson’s suspected killer, NYC Mayor Adams says

 

[Sakura2Sophia4Lucia]

One option I can think of is someone buying a prepaid credit card for him. There are no credit checks and no identification is needed to purchase one in many countries, and then the card can be given to someone else to use. Another option, does this chain of hostels accept gift cards similar to One4All as a payment method? Lots of gift cards do not require ID or any personal info to get one either, and they can be used online.

Good point. I've purchased pre-paid credit cards as gifts and I've not had to show ID. The cards function as regular credit cards and can be used online or in any business that accepts credit cards.