NY - UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson fatally shot in Midtown. #6

[jimg77]

Is the taxi photo enough for a retinal scanner?

I don't think so. From my experiences with retinal scanners, they have to see a real eye not a picture of one. When I was programming the ones we used, I tried using a picture of an eye as an image for the database, and the reader wouldn't read it. It was a no go.

I've been working in the electronic security field since 1989.

 

[Mr.Dandy]

Since we don’t have access to all the information or evidence that law enforcement and the FBI possess, we can only speculate. The issue is that multiple people might have had motives, including financial disputes, jealousy, or a desire to silence him to prevent whistleblowing or disclosures. Potential suspects include:

1. <modsnip - victims are not suspects>
2. Involvement in a DOJ investigation for insider trading
3. Unscrupulous business practices, such as using unreliable AI with a 90.0% failure rate to deny patients
4. Disgruntled UHC patients or customers who feel wronged

UnitedHealthcare Denies More Claims Than Other Insurers​

UnitedHealthcare Denies More Claims Than Other Insurers, Angering Patients

According to the most recent available data, the insurer refused an estimated one-third of claims submitted, prompting an outpouring of frustration after its CEO Brian Thompson was shot and killed this week.

www.forbes.com

A Year Before CEO Shooting, Lawsuit Alleged UHC Used AI to Deny Coverage​

A year before CEO shooting, lawsuit alleged UHC used AI to deny coverage

The lawsuit accuses UnitedHealthcare of using artificial intelligence to deny coverage to elderly patients.

www.newsweek.com

If it was someone close to BT, it would be much easier, I’d imagine. If it was some disgruntled user, it would be harder but I feel like a disgruntled user hasn’t been quiet about why he’s disgruntled. So they may have to sift through upset patients and see where it leads.

 

[Marantz4250b]

I mean, maybe a serial number could tell you if it was stolen but only if it was registered. The other info feels moot to me.

It all seems very relevant because the police might be able to say something like ....this is a really rare bike, do any other bikers in the city recall seeing it anytime over the past week or so?. Lot's of things about it might be extremely important, even the seemingly trivial stuff.

 

[Tortoise]

I'm sure it was mentioned that he left without the bike? Or maybe I'm thinking of the backpack?

No he was still on the bike.

6:48 a.m. — The man enters Central Park by bicycle at the 60th Street and Center Drive entrance. It's in the park and away from security cameras that police believe he discards a gray backpack.

6:56 a.m. — He leaves the park at West 77th Street and Central Park West, still on the bicycle.

6:58 a.m. — He passes another camera on 85th Street and Columbus Avenue, still on the bicycle.

7 a.m. — He's at 86th Street, no longer with the bicycle.

 

[BUF]

Follow the money
How much Monopoly money was used in the bag? One game of money or several games of money. Track the money back to the games, then to the store where purchased. Camera footage may or may not be saved.

It would be interesting to know the amount of Monopoly money found in that backpack.

The Monopoly money can be easily reproduced to look like the real thing but in denominations desired on a computer and can be printed easily.

 

[Mr.Dandy]

It all seems very relevant because the police might be able to say something like ....this is a really rare bike, do any other bikers in the city recall seeing it anytime over the past week or so?. Lot's of things about it might be extremely important, even the seemingly trivial stuff.

Perhaps

 

[RobSA]

I thought he was on camera leaving the park on the bike?

And the video of him riding the bike on W 85th is riding away from Central Park a block or two away from where he took the cab.

 

[TTF14]

I doubt BT would say “shoot me in the leg first, then 3 times in the chest with weapon reloads”, it took a lot longer to kill him than a headshot to the temple

Perhaps not, but why wouldn't the shooter have just shot him in the head. It was almost like he was purposefully avoiding his head, like he'd been asked to do so. I've heard that women often won't shoot themselves in the head if they take their own life with a gun. Maybe a woman hiring a hit man would request the same?

 

[CityKid]

Hmmm...I wonder if they think the bike is underwater.

That's a possibility, I suppose.

According to the timeline he was on the bike on Columbus at 86th, then not on the bike at 88th St., so he was on the bike when he left the park at 77th. He caught a cab on Amsterdam near 88 to head to the GWB terminal.

 

[Marantz4250b]

Not really important, but there are some made in the USA, Miami

That would make sense as a lot of foreign gun makers assemble guns in the US, presumably for tax/import tariff reasons.

I can't imagine many of these are in circulation, though, and all will be registered with ATF regardless of where they're made.

 

[Paintedhousecat]

Perhaps not, but why wouldn't the shooter have just shot him in the head. It was almost like he was purposefully avoiding his head, like he'd been asked to do so. I've heard that women often won't shoot themselves in the head if they take their own life with a gun. Maybe a woman hiring a hit man would request the same?

That's why this is personal. A HIT would be one and done. This was a personal shot.

 

[Inthedetails]

What would the bike tell us if they did find it?

A first I didn't think the bike is super important to find, but maybe....it might indicate if he had an associate who supplied the bike, might give NYPD knowledge about any bike shop who sold the bike and would have witnesses to interview, might be used to track his movements for 10 days, might provide a taunt that would be of investigative value.

My hunch, though, is the bike is currently being ridden by someone who had a lucky day last Wednesday and found it, without any knowledge (or care?) that he's riding a get-away vehicle.

Or, LE already has it.

It's not in the lake because the murderer is seen riding the bike away from the park.

jmo

 

[Mr.Dandy]

That's why this is personal. A HIT would be one and done. This was a personal shot.

Exactly. He was sloppy. And with those shots, the shooter couldn’t be sure he would die. That was luck.

 

[rainbowshummingbird]

The hostel would have washed them before the police even knew where he was staying.....

If the clients of the hostel have access to the laundry, perhaps he even put them in the washer himself.

 

[armchairagatha]

Exactly. He was sloppy. And with those shots, the shooter couldn’t be sure he would die. That was luck.

He needed to get the deny, delay, depose message in. Needed 3 shots for that. He was not sloppy.

 

[Paintedhousecat]

A first I didn't think the bike is super important to find, but maybe....it might indicate if he had an associate who supplied the bike, might give NYPD knowledge about any bike shop who sold the bike and would have witnesses to interview, might be used to track his movements for 10 days, might provide a taunt that would be of investigative value.

My hunch, though, is the bike is currently being ridden by someone who had a lucky day last Wednesday and found it, without any knowledge (or care?) that he's riding a get-away vehicle.

Or, LE already has it.

It's not in the lake because the murderer is seen riding the bike away from the park.

jmo

don't think there was anyone else involved. this was a personal hit

 

[Mr.Dandy]

A first I didn't think the bike is super important to find, but maybe....it might indicate if he had an associate who supplied the bike, might give NYPD knowledge about any bike shop who sold the bike and would have witnesses to interview, might be used to track his movements for 10 days, might provide a taunt that would be of investigative value.

My hunch, though, is the bike is currently being ridden by someone who had a lucky day last Wednesday and found it, without any knowledge (or care?) that he's riding a get-away vehicle.

Or, LE already has it.

It's not in the lake because the murderer is seen riding the bike away from the park.

jmo

Where I live, bike thieves Frankenstein the bikes they steal so they can’t be caught. I suppose that’s another possibility.

 

[Mr.Dandy]

He needed to get the deny, delay, depose message in. Needed 3 shots for that. He was not sloppy.

So you’re saying if he lived it wouldn’t matter because he got those three bullets out there?

 

[Marantz4250b]

Perhaps not, but why wouldn't the shooter have just shot him in the head. It was almost like he was purposefully avoiding his head, like he'd been asked to do so. I've heard that women often won't shoot themselves in the head if they take their own life with a gun. Maybe a woman hiring a hit man would request the same?

The body is a much bigger target and it's more natural to aim for something big.

The way I understand it was that he was shot once in the back and once in the leg while he was on the ground. Is it possible that the shooter may not have had the intention to definitely kill him but to paralyze him? Some twisted logic of giving his company something to pay out for over the next 40 years and him to have to live with as retribution for someone not being paid out on their insurance for?

 

[Janitor101]

What would the bike tell us if they did find it?

If they don't find it, it may lend credence to the theory that he may have had an accomplice or identify where he purchased or rented the bike?