NY - UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson fatally shot in Midtown. #8 *Arrest*

[Marantz4250b]

Wow. I 100% would have never recognized him as the person wanted for the shooting.

Same.

 

[snarast]

i’m surprised at how much people don’t want to believe his reasons were ideological. first it had to be a hit man instead, or a foreign entity, or a scammer, or a lover, anything but someone who’s angry at the health insurance system - when there’s so many people angry at the health insurance system! but no, it had to be some farfetched conspiracy instead.

now it’s even more clear that it wasn’t anything else, and now people move on to suggesting it was maybe schizophrenia when there’s not really any clear signs we’ve seen of that. imho, it’s really not much more complicated than a guy who is guided by his ideology (that you might find very flawed, or hypocritical, or you might think he should have acted on in a different way — but he didn’t believe any other way would be effective, and he believed using violence would be the only effective way, and that’s why he did what he did)

to be clear, i’m trying to explain how i think this worked for him, i’m not writing it as a defense, and of course i might be completely wrong in my assessment.

i also really agree with the people saying a chronic health condition changes you, and can radicalize you. i’m housebound with a chronic condition and have made lots of online friends with chronic health conditions. and sure, it’s rare to go to these extreme measures, but i’m not really surprised someone did.

What he has done is showing what an entitled narcissist really can accomplish.

 

[StarryStarryNight]

LM obviously had back issues and had a major surgery. His family didn’t appear to be involved in any of his recovery. If the surgery was not successful I can understand him being angry with doctors and surgeons and just the entire situation, but he didn’t strike back at them.
There is no indication at this time that UnitedHealth did him wrong or was even his insurance company.
It sounds like he pretty much self-radicalized himself the past year.
I don’t think he wanted to or expected to be caught. I think he hoped to have a long criminal career terrorizing the world from the shadows, popping up from time to time in violent ways, like the Unabomber, in support of his new revelatory agenda.


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[Tillyjames]

This confounds me!
Did his entire family NOT watch the news the past week or do the photos of FBI's Most Wanted not look like him to them?

I don’t have or watch the news all though I keep up with things on the internet. I mentioned that he was found yesterday to a friend who had no clue. A lot of people don’t watch the news or know of current events.

 

[DancingMuse]

His eyebrows alone, never mind his eyes. Come on, his direct family are not blind.

Agreeing with bacmillan1, x-files, and others:

Yes, I understand your frustration that The Mangione family are "Not blind".

But they are likely... going to be very discreet.

1) Baltimore and NYC are port cities and have been linked through trade and relationships for centuries. (Witness an example : the assistance NYC gave to Baltimore with the overflow of cargo ships after the Bridge Collapse from the container ship Dali. )
2) The Mangione family is very civic-minded.


It wouldn't suprise me if the current Patriarch's/Matriarch's attorney contacted Baltimore's mayor who then contacted Officials in NYC very soon after the first pics came out about the POI.

But, no one is going to say anything to the Press about this.

Family loyalty is important. But, what family would want other members of the public randomly assassinated by their mentally ill son?

No family wants that.

He needed to be caught. I would wager They gave whatever "heads' up" they could.

(Pure speculation. Moo.)

 

[RobSA]

This confounds me!
Did his entire family NOT watch the news the past week or do the photos of FBI's Most Wanted not look like him to them?

Which one of those pictures do you believe that someone could recognize him from? Neither of the ones from the hostel would lead me to picture him how we now know him to look.

 

[Richrd]

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23 December - PA (Lower) Court Preliminary Hearing Date

https://ujsportal.pacourts.us/Report/MdjDocketSheet?docketNumber=MJ-24102-CR-0000623-2024&dnh=7oio3MmAtRF7Y%2F03sx2mLQ%3D%3D

Pre-Trial Confinement in PA's Blair Count Prison
NO Bail Permitted - "Homicide Warrant Forthcoming"

Historically, the Next PA steps:
1)) Preliminary Hearing with (Lower) Court Magisterial District Justice
2)) Advancement to PA (Upper) Court of Common Pleas
3)) 2025 Formal Arraignment with (Upper) Court Common Pleas Judge
4)) Formal Hearing with Defendant's Choice of:
5A)) Negotiated Plea or
5B)) Request for Bench (Judge Only) Trial or
5C)) Request for Jury Trial

Extradition = New York's request to return PA Defendant to NY for additonal charge(s)
F2 = Felony-Grade Crime of 2nd Degree
F3 = Felony-Grade Crime of 3rd Degree
Id = Identification
M1 = Misdemeanor-Grade Offense of 1st Degree
M3 = Misdemeanor-Grade Offense of 3rd Degree
W/Int = With Intent
W/O = Without

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[armchairagatha]

He had had such a charmed and privileged life so far that when “adult things” like a back injury and loss of job (layoff) happened he didn’t know how to handle them. It turned to rage against society since he couldn’t control these things. Especially rage against corporations because they laid him off and denied him health coverage. How dare they! Height of entitlement fueled by radical books like the UnaBoomer’s writings and the “Delay, Deny, Defend” against healthcare insurance. JMO

After watching the video from Hidden True Crime that someone has posted here, I think the above is mostly true. He probably felt like a misunderstood genius just like the Unaboomer and others he was influenced by. The Corporate “parasites” (like the company that laid him off and the company that denied his insurance claim) were controlling the narrative for profits. And “geniuses” like him were getting the short end of the stick as a result. So “it had to be done” so he could reclaim some of that control and narrative. He had to be as cold-blooded as them. JMO.

 

[bestill]

Luigi Mangione inside Altoona, PA McDonalds eating what appears to be a hash brown before arrest

https://twitter.com/x/status/1866510162569331075

Wow, I am even more impressed with the ones that recognized him. I certainly wouldn't have. He looks totally different in these photos to me. Good job for calling 911!!

 

[Inthedetails]

Yeah MOO he was living in Hawaii - in a surf community? I don’t think males in their mid twenties are known for their risk assessments given that the leading cause of death in this age group is trauma / accident Top Causes of Death for Ages 25-44

I hear ya. I have a son this age.

But a health-insurance company CEO is not responsible for making sure a rich kid gets to do the activities he wants to do in Hawaii.

IMO, this murderer is similar to other shooters who are young men with mental-health issues and decide to lash out at strangers. I didn't think this crime had an American feel to it, but it does. A young man with a gun shot a stranger, period. There is nothing heroic or revolutionary about him.

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[bestill]

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23 December - PA (Lower) Court Preliminary Hearing Date


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What about the NYC charges? Where is he now? If you know, lol.

 

[Kapua]

Wow. I 100% would have never recognized him as the person wanted for the shooting.

Good eye, tipster! He's wearing a brown hat here, not a hoodie, and those bushy eyebrows are only partly visible. The jacket's a dead giveaway if you've been watching the news, but other than than, I can't say I'd have recognized him, either. MOO

 

[CrimeDawg123]

Luigi Mangione inside Altoona, PA McDonalds eating what appears to be a hash brown before arrest

https://twitter.com/x/status/1866510162569331075

The bags under his eyes

 

[StarryStarryNight]

What he has done is showing what an entitled narcissist really can accomplish.

Agree.
Not many people, with or without back pain, can spend a year without a job, ignoring your friends and family, traveling to Japan and the like, and reading and thinking deep thoughts about the ills of the world.

 

[SleuthJan]

i’m surprised at how much people don’t want to believe his reasons were ideological. first it had to be a hit man instead, or a foreign entity, or a scammer, or a lover, anything but someone who’s angry at the health insurance system - when there’s so many people angry at the health insurance system! but no, it had to be some farfetched conspiracy instead.

now it’s even more clear that it wasn’t anything else, and now people move on to suggesting it was maybe schizophrenia when there’s not really any clear signs we’ve seen of that. imho, it’s really not much more complicated than a guy who is guided by his ideology (that you might find very flawed, or hypocritical, or you might think he should have acted on in a different way — but he didn’t believe any other way would be effective, and he believed using violence would be the only effective way, and that’s why he did what he did)

to be clear, i’m trying to explain how i think this worked for him, i’m not writing it as a defense, and of course i might be completely wrong in my assessment.

i also really agree with the people saying a chronic health condition changes you, and can radicalize you. i’m housebound with a chronic condition and have made lots of online friends with chronic health conditions. and sure, it’s rare to go to these extreme measures, but i’m not really surprised someone did.

Yes, people here must have great insurance lol.

 

[MelmothTheLost]

Luigi Mangione inside Altoona, PA McDonalds eating what appears to be a hash brown before arrest

https://twitter.com/x/status/1866510162569331075

Fancy a McDonalds being the last meal you ever eat as a free person.

 

[rizzo0904]

I'm guessing by this point he was severely sleep deprived and that led to worsening judgement about how to continue to evade authorities.

 

[armchairagatha]

Wow, I am even more impressed with the ones that recognized him. I certainly wouldn't have. He looks totally different in these photos to me. Good job for calling 911!!

The mask was the tip-off. I don’t think anyone wears a mask in public anymore - especially a young man in a small town like Altoona. That probably caught their attention first and then the rest of him looked like it could fit the assassin’s photos. It was gutsy of them to call it out nonetheless.

 

[Marantz4250b]

I'm guessing by this point he was severely sleep deprived and that led to worsening judgement about how to continue to evade authorities.

And what to eat!

 

[eddie_van]

The mask was the tip-off. I don’t think anyone wears a mask in public anymore - especially a young man in a small town like Altoona. That probably caught their attention first and then the rest of him looked like it could fit the assassin’s photos. It was gutsy of them to call it out nonetheless.

lots of people wear masks still