NY - UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson fatally shot in Midtown. #8 *Arrest*

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  • #281
Wow, I am even more impressed with the ones that recognized him. I certainly wouldn't have. He looks totally different in these photos to me. Good job for calling 911!!
It could have been the overall demeanor also that alerted someone to take a closer look. He had the black face covering on still (along with this surgical like mask too) and the same coat from some of the photos. Then if someone saw him come from the greyhound bus that was also the known mode of transportation that he took into NYC.. it could have been all of these little things that made someone notice and wonder if it could be that guy.
 
  • #282
The media should not have said that the McDonalds employee is female, it doesn’t look a big restaurant so there can’t be huge numbers of female employees. All it would take would be an angry LM supporter to turn up with a gun and shoot any female employee they see
 
  • #283
NEW: Luigi Mangione mugshot.

Facing murder charges after police say he shot and killed a United healthcare CEO.

Then, fled to PA.
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  • #284
I think so too. It's simply unbelievable to me that no one who knew him recognised him. The police will likely have had his name within minutes of the unmasked pic coming out

He was clearly no novice with firearms so I wouldn't be at all surprised that if he regularly shot with people some might have an inkling from the mannerisms in the shooting video.
 
  • #285
Maybe doing it in NYC guaranteed a larger audience. I differ from others on the forum, I believe this is a big, historic deal. It's galvanizing, it awakens dark, pummeled emotions in every American who deals with the bs of the "health care" insurers.
The prisons are full of people like LM, there is nothing special about him, a cold-blooded murderer who seemingly enjoyed planning and executing his 15 minutes of infamy that took a beloved father from two sons who adored him.
 
  • #286
An Altoona man who frequents the McDonald’s that Luigi Mangione was arrested at on Monday says he and his friends saw the suspected shooter before the arrest was made.

The regular, who identified himself as Larry, told CNN he got to McDonald’s around 6 a.m. ET on Monday, but he and his friends noticed Mangione walk in somewhere around 8 a.m. ET.

“It started out almost like a joke, my one friend thought he looked like the shooter,” Larry said.

“From what I was told, the worker that took his order, she said his eyes and his eyebrows, she just thought it was him,” Larry said.


I hope he doesn't regret talking to the media and having his name out there. People are really riled up about this, especially online.
 
  • #287
I recognize and appreciate that his HI acquaintances have shared stories around his back problem, surgery, etc. I really wish someone who knew him prior to HI could shed light.

Call me the furthest in the crazy nest this moment I suppose, but I see “Someone getting screwed in the back” (symbolic) when I look at the x-Ray photo. It feels like Monopoly money….
It does sound like the surgery was botched if that’s what you mean. From the NYTimes:

Martin told the NYT he asked how Mangione was feeling after seeing the photos.

“So, long story,” Mangione replied. “Will fill ya in in person. Back in Hawaii as soon as I can, I have to figure out some spine stuff here first.”

It sounds like he left Hawaii in the summer of 2023 for his surgery. He told Martin (his Hawaii friend/the owner of the co-living space in Hawaii) that he would be going to the east coast for his surgery where his doctor was. Assuming that means Maryland? But that’s a guess. But then at some point he seems to leave home and stops contacting family, per the messages on to his Twitter account. Where was he living all of 2024?
 
  • #288
Something is going on there, but the issue with something like you suggest is how does that jibe with this meticulous, well planned, well executed crime?

If he was exhibiting something like that, I'd expect something much more ill conceived. He just walks up to him, fires a bunch of rounds, runs away, and is quickly apprehended.

I'm not an expert, but it just doesn't seem like a mental illness like that would present in this way (the way this crime was committed).

So I'm still completely confused, but I do think that side of it is definitely worth exploring.

Oh, and how could I forget Charles Manson! IIRC, he had paranoid schizophrenia also. I guess it can affect people's brains in different ways, because I've met folks with paranoid schizophrenia who were as kind, thoughtful, and accommodating as one would meet anywhere. Saint-like even. Such a bizarre disease.

JMO.
 
  • #289
Only way I can imagine was due to the blue mask on a young guy.. that stands out now.. especially in that part of PA? that's my guess

still great they noticed, but he should have 100% dumped the mask
 
  • #290
Only way I can imagine was due to the blue mask on a young guy.. that stands out now.. especially in that part of PA? that's my guess

still great they noticed, but he should have 100% dumped the mask
That’s the funny thing. In Pennsylvania, not wearing a mask was the equivalent of him wearing a mask in New York. It would have served him better, as people would have paid a bit more attention to him because of the fact he was wearing a mask, and had an easy comparison between that view and the images that were released, especially the taxi one.
 
  • #291
I live in CA and have friends who live in HI. Both places are ridiculously expensive. I once had a manager from CO who was planning to move his family out here until he saw the price of houses. Anyway, the difference between overpriced CA and overpriced HI, is that you can get a well-paying job in CA, and the majority of jobs in HI are service jobs in hotels and restaurants. People work two or three jobs in both places to survive. LM, as we know now, was far from hard off. He had $8000 in US cash and the equivalent of $2000 in foreign currency on hand when he was arrested.
With the pedigree Luigi had, it seems to me that he could get a high paying government job. He lived on Oahu where there are a bunch of military installations.

I lived on Oahu for 4.5 years and got a government job at Ft. Shafter. Those jobs even pay extra with a COLA difference added to your paycheck. IMO, it is the local people who struggle to afford to live, with many family members often living under one roof.

I also didn't take a technical job with Chevron in San Ramon many years ago (at the beginning of my career) because of the expense. I instead took a job with BellSouth in Alabama which started me at the same salary.

San Francisco is one of the most expensive places to live and so is Honolulu, HI. IMO, this young man enjoyed the weather and outdoor type of lifestyle. Those were his main drivers. I actually ran a race every weekend and often did triathlons while living in Hawaii.

I just don't buy his physical health issues being the motive for this murder. He above others had the money and the family background to get the best care. In fact, his family is prominent in Baltimore, the home of Johns Hopkins. Is this where he had back surgery?

I have to think that this young man had something else going on, like, maybe, schizophrenia, if not a case of being spoiled and entitled. His friend in Hawaii said they often talked about capitalism, all the while living the high life afforded by capitalism. Go figure.

I think that there is a lot more to this story about Luigi. It's sad because I read that he went to a $40k a year high school and then went to an expensive Ivy League school for six years. By all accounts, this was a brilliant individual with a bright future.

JMO.
 
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  • #292
An extradition hearing for Mangione will take place today at 1:30 p.m., according to court officials in Pennsylvania.

 
  • #293
lots of people wear masks still
in the midwest (2 million population) i can say with high confidence in the last 12 months I've seen less than 5 with them on in a non medical setting. and probably zero in the 100+ times i've been in a restaurant. and 100% 0 time wearing them for a young male
 
  • #294
An extradition hearing for Mangione will take place today at 1:30 p.m., according to court officials in Pennsylvania.
Hopefully he waives it so they can get the ball rolling.
 
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  • #296
If that's the case, then I wonder why he didn't assassinate his surgeon. Not sure what the insurance company would have to do with it.

Hopefully, he'll tell us...or UNC denied another surgery, painkillers and/or therapy?
 
  • #297
This embittered young man, who had everything going for him self-radicalized by seeking a cause so that he could become a ‘folk-hero’. He set out to become the Unabomber. He picked healthcare. I am pretty sure the hallucinogenics he self-medicated his mental health problems with probably made them worse. He’s a textbook incel - with a self-found ‘mission’. Truly tragic.
 
  • #298
The CIA thing is the least realistic theory in all the threads about this case, if he was working for the CIA they would put him in a safe house till everything blows over, instead he looks like he hasn’t slept for days
I agree, if so he’s a patsy and why would those rational fellas ever choose a aristocratic genius and throw him to the dogs? No. I can think of more likely options along related lines, but why elaborate on sheer fantasy.
 
  • #299
That’s the funny thing. In Pennsylvania, not wearing a mask was the equivalent of him wearing a mask in New York. It would have served him better, as people would have paid a bit more attention to him because of the fact he was wearing a mask, and had an easy comparison between that view and the images that were released, especially the taxi one.
Also the older coffee drinking crowd at McDonalds likely picks up on many many things that most of us might not as we hurry along grabbing breakfast and dashing out. They live there so probably know the bus stops there across the way and maybe many mornings they sit there chatting over coffee and see a crowd come in from the bus stop. Let's say none have masks except this guy, he sits in a back corner and is overly dressed.. had over his eyebrows, facemask on, several layers. He was out of place.
 
  • #300
The prisons are full of people like LM, there is nothing special about him, a cold-blooded murderer who seemingly enjoyed planning and executing his 15 minutes of infamy that took a beloved father from two sons who adored him.
Several things can be true at the same time
1) his actions are lighting a fire under millions of citizens hurt by "health care" corporations, he is an historic figure

2) to many he is no more than a cold blooded murderer

All children are affected by the price their parents pay just to stay alive.

"insulin prices in other developed countries, including neighboring Canada, have stayed the same. Insulin pricing in the United States is the consequence of the exact opposite of a free market: extended monopoly on a lifesaving product in which prices can be increased at will, taking advantage of regulatory and legal restrictions on market entry and importation"
 
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