NY - UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson fatally shot in Midtown. #8 *Arrest*

[Parsnip]

It’s apparent to me that the health insurance qualm is just an obfuscation at best or an excuse at worst.

This young man had qualms with his family. He cut off communication. He moved to HI. He traveled to Japan. He quite literally could not have distanced himself from them more.

Imo, the accused has a beef with his family, and he attacked them symbolically.

The subsequent debate concerning health insurance in the US, while absolutely warranted, and while obviously contrived, lends no more insight into this murder than writing “pigs” on a wall.

 

[Baby baby Jane]

Sure, insurance sucks, maybe he had a botched surgery. Maybe it rendered him impotent. Maybe he suffered from intense pain that affected every aspect of his life. Maybe the company that Brian Thompson headed had unfair practices that should be illegal. You still don’t get to murder people.

My thoughts go more towards malpractice ! than insurance ….
My thoughts go further towards some sort of mental illness …

LM is not my hero.

 

[BUF]

@BrianEntin

Luigi Mangione's attorney is not saying much at this press conference other than that he is pleading not guilty to the Pennsylvania charges. Not answering questions about Mangione's state of mind or outburst.


5:45 PM · Dec 10, 2024

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Don’t know why Dickey set up this PC other than to get his few minutes on CNN and elsewhere as he won’t answer any questions. Not impressed at all!

 

[Knox]

Apologies if this has already been shared, but this is reportedly the manifesto:

Exclusive: Luigi's Manifesto

Read the manifesto the media refused to publish

www.kenklippenstein.com

Interesting, did he think he was going to be charged in Federal Court?

Willing to kill to draw attention to the “cause”, but isn’t qualified to lay out the arguments? Maybe the manifesto was an afterthought and hastily written?

 

[JudyBolton]

Yup, pain free until he decided to learn to surf which is no doubt contraindicated after this type of spinal surgery….

Oh - I understood from that interview that the surfing lesson was before his spinal surgery. He was living with that group in Hawaii 2 years ago. This was his statement from July 2023 ". Started when I first aggravated my spondy 1.5 years ago after surfing. My back and hips locked up after the accident, and my whole lumbar / hips have been out of wack since then." Then this from August 2023 "In my case I had surgery 2 weeks ago because I had nerve issues. Surgery was painful for the first couple days, but I was shocked that by day 7 I was on literally zero pain meds."

 

[citizen_sleuth]

Considering he is fighting extradition, a trial is likely a long way off but IMO if this case goes to trial, I think the prosecution is going to have a very difficult time selecting an unbiased jury. MOO.

 

[Inthedetails]

Don’t know why Dickey st up this PC other than to get his few minutes on CNN and elsewhere as he won’t answer any questions. Not impressed at all!

Billable hours? Insurance isn't the only for-profit industry.

jmo

 

[m00c0w]

Have you seen his legs? To me, his lower body looks painfully thin as if he cannot exercise that part because of his physical health conditions. I noticed some sort of limp in the video outside the court in Altoona today too. This is not the physique of an athlete but of someone who is not in full control of his body movements/functions. Jmoo.

May have sprained an ankle running around NYC after shooting a man. Convenient that a limp would appear now, in any case.

JMO

 

[Furore]

It’s apparent to me that the health insurance qualm is just an obfuscation at best or an excuse at worst.

This young man had qualms with his family. He cut off communication. He moved to HI. He traveled to Japan. He quite literally could not have distanced himself from them more.

Imo, the accused has a beef with his family, and he attacked them symbolically.

The subsequent debate concerning health insurance in the US, while absolutely warranted, and while obviously contrived, lends no more insight into this murder than writing “pigs” on a wall.

BT was CEO of a controversial medical insurer. Numerous twitter posts show us LM was unhappy with society and health, and his manifesto indicates unhappiness with insurance companies. I see no connection between murdering BT and LM hurting his family. This was a targeted attack not a random death rampage like some terrorists/lone wolf operators.

 

[Warwick7]

BT was CEO of a controversial medical insurer. Numerous twitter posts show us LM was unhappy with society and health, and his manifesto indicates unhappiness with insurance companies. I see no connection between murdering BT and LM hurting his family. This was a targeted attack not a random death rampage like some terrorists/lone wolf operators.

Agreed

 

[arielilane]

Luigi Mangione shouts about 'an insult to the American people' during his perp walk into extradition hearing

Luigi Mangione, the suspect in the killing of the UnitedHealthcare CEO, is held without bail and fighting his extradition to New York.

www.businessinsider.com

This story has been updated.

 

[bestill]

I wonder what was on the To Do lists he mentions in his manifesto published by Ken there.

The rest of his hit list? JMO

Don’t know why Dickey set up this PC other than to get his few minutes on CNN and elsewhere as he won’t answer any questions. Not impressed at all!

Marketing? I missed it so thanks for letting us know it was a nothing burger.

 

[Inthedetails]

Considering he is fighting extradition, a trial is likely a long way off but IMO if this case goes to trial, I think the prosecution is going to have a very difficult time selecting an unbiased jury. MOO.

There are many people who think their insurance coverage is fine. Yes, there are horrible cases of denials, errors, expenses, confusion that are heartbreaking...but just as many people, if not more, use their insurance and it works.

jmo

 

[Cindizzi]

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[lonetraveler]

So, sifting through the media coverage - including (especially?) the wonderful efforts from ppl posting in this thread...

It seems like something happened with this guy in mid-November that caused alarm with his own family and was part of the spiral that led to him allegedly shooting Brian Thompson.

His mom reports him missing to the San Francisco Police Dept. on November 18: Luigi Mangione reported missing to SFPD weeks before shooting

The details surrounding this are still unknown but clearly she had a reason to do this.

We also know he's alleged to have arrived in NYC on November 24 (6 days later) on a bus that originated from Atlanta.

Man sought in UnitedHealthcare shooting may have traveled to NYC from Atlanta last month

As the manhunt continues, officials say the gunman who killed Brian Thompson, 50, may have traveled to New York City from Atlanta by bus last month.

www.nbcnews.com

The fact his Mom reported him missing from SF on Nov. 18 doesn't mean that's the day he actually disappeared. But there is clearly something going on in his life at this point that made his own mother believe he was in total crisis mode - and that crisis appears to have resulted in the alleged narrative that started up in NYC on Nov. 24.

He had major back surgery, with pins and rods.

https://www.bing.com/ck/a?!&&p=f4dae2a21276b233f23dcda1f2caad2353aec3c8a233c0c9c54f610d596e7f85JmltdHM9MTczMzc4ODgwMA&ptn=3&ver=2&hsh=4&fclid=2222fc31-ea99-64d3-0908-e8ebeb1d6527&u=a1L25ld3Mvc2VhcmNoP3E9Q25uK0JhY2srU3VyZ2VyeStPbitTaG9vdGVyK09mK0NFTyZxcHZ0PWNubitiYWNrK3N1cmdlcnkrb24rc2hvb3RlcitvZitjZW8mRk9STT1FV1JF&ntb=1

 

[canai]

On his LinkedIn, I saw an x-ray with pins in the lower back next to a photo of Luigi hiking and very fit (six pack). It looks like he may have been hiking in Hawaii. So, I would like to know if the hiking photo was before or after his operation (if that is his x-ray).

To me, he seemed really active in NYC, especially, for someone with severe back problems.

JMO.

I saw a 6 pack too! I had sciatica for 4 or 5 months very painful. but manageable. I was late 50s at the time. I couldn't have road a bike or hike. nope. maybe at 26 I don't know. I healed very quick when young. probably did more than my doc advised. yep hardhead.

 

[Fabled Automatic]

He seems to think that he's some sort of genius who needs to make a mark in history, but he does not understand that shooting a stranger in the back does not solve anything other than eliminate himself from society.

It's the same with many of these guys. Serial killers, Trump shooter kid, school shooters, this guy... They all want fame, but have nothing of any real substance to offer society like music, art, medicine, inventions, etc.

 

[Furore]

There are many people who think their insurance coverage is fine. Yes, there are horrible cases of denials, errors, expenses, confusion that are heartbreaking...but just as many people, if not more, use their insurance and it works.

jmo

Also them being sympathetic to the idea that insurance companies can be evil, doesn’t mean they’ll ignore the fairly concrete evidence of murder.

 

[otto]

Considering he is fighting extradition, a trial is likely a long way off but IMO if this case goes to trial, I think the prosecution is going to have a very difficult time selecting an unbiased jury. MOO.

Yes and no. It will be a murder trial, not an insurance industry trial.

I hope a local lawyer can let us know whether motive is even discussed during NY murder trials. If it's not necessary, I assume that all discussion about the insurance industry is off the table.

He manufactured a gun, stalked a stranger, shot the stranger in the back, ran away, hid, and started shaking when he got caught.

 

[Inthedetails]

Yes and no. It will be a murder trial, not an insurance industry trial.

I hope a local lawyer can let us know whether motive is even discussed during NY murder trials. If it's not necessary, I assume that all discussion about the insurance industry is off the table.

He manufactured a gun, stalked a stranger, shot the stranger in the back, ran away, hid, and started shaking when he got caught.

Motive is not necessary to prove, but juries like to hear if there is one.

jmo