NY - UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson fatally shot in Midtown. #8 *Arrest*

[Diddian]

Well there are many ways to be intimate and I don't doubt that for a young man having something happen to the "main attraction" would be difficult to deal with, it isn't the only way to be intimate. Plenty of people prefer other ways to the main way anyway. I think I would be put off more by his arrogance and attitude than I would any problems he would have with his body parts. Surely such a deep thinker like him could come up with other ways to connect with people.

If this was really something he was struggling with then why not use his abilities to document it and his perceived issues with health insurance.

He appeared to move around just fine in the various bits of surveillance LE provided to the public.

I think it most likely that his troubles with intimacy have more to do with lack of a partner than with his physical capabilities. But admitting such would be a humble admission and he doesn't seem to have THAT capacity.

And as you write, people can manage many ways to be intimate. For someone curious but without a partner, there are even books on the subject. But there were none of those on his reported GoodReads list.

He's already becoming tiresome with his determination to occupy center stage neon-blinking how completely foolish he can be and I'd guess that any female prospects quickly concluded the same.

 

[x_files]

It’s apparent to me that the health insurance qualm is just an obfuscation at best or an excuse at worst.

This young man had qualms with his family. He cut off communication. He moved to HI. He traveled to Japan. He quite literally could not have distanced himself from them more.

Imo, the accused has a beef with his family, and he attacked them symbolically.

The subsequent debate concerning health insurance in the US, while absolutely warranted, and while obviously contrived, lends no more insight into this murder than writing “pigs” on a wall.

Going to college in HI doesn't strike me he didn't like his parents but loved tropical places because he loved to surf, that's it.

 

[Jinkasaurus]

I find myself reflecting on how and in what ways is LM similar to and different from a school shooter?

In the field of threat assessment, there is the concept of a "pathway to violence." This starts with a grievance and then progresses until the actual attack. Ideally, someone will notice the signs of someone being on this path, and intervene. If that doesn't happen, a violent attack will result.

A google search on the term "pathway to violence" will pull up all sorts of information.

Here is one diagram of it, from the University of Illinois at Chicago (UIC) Department of Psychiatry

 

[otto]

I do believe he lit the powder keg. I worry about the copycats that may arise from this.

Poor, helpless ivy league rich boy, last seen jogging and cycling, claims that unrecommended back surgery (that he demanded) prevents him from living a full life. Therefore, he decided to shoot someone in the insurance industry.

If anyone wants to imitate this, journalists need to reframe the message.

 

[x_files]

I do wonder as to why a few of the major billionaires haven't got together before now to create a bif not for profit health insurer as an alternative to the existing ones? I mean isn't Bill Gates busy trying to cure every disease imaginable in the poorer parts of the world, for instance?

That would be a great idea.

 

[Parsnip]

Going to college in HI doesn't strike me he didn't like his parents but loved tropical places because he loved to surf, that;s it.

He went to college in Philadelphia. He worked remotely from HI, iirc. He had one surfing lesson, and by reports, that laid him up for a week. I don’t think he went there for the surfing. Moo.

 

[arielilane]

@cathyrusson

CEO’s Former Bodyguard Speaks On Brutal Execution: 'Totally Confused'

https://youtu.be/CAthvDAjqXU?si=t2-QyFMJJ4KqtIi6 via @YouTube

https://twitter.com/x/status/1866634080672158066

 

[arielilane]

@cathyrusson

Luigi Mangione’s Family Has 'Lots of Clout’ in Maryland Community

https://youtu.be/51mEY2dEhs4?si=IqlZHiHfn4zXif7x via @YouTube

https://twitter.com/x/status/1866634383702233530

 

[K.jill]

Does anyone know for sure what came first the surfing accident or the surgery?
Not that it matters, of course. Just curious.

 

[OneLove]

On the urinating issue: I originally postulated this to be a dread/fright reflexive action. After reading of his earlier online suggestion to someone to "piss your pants" as a defense, I'm now wondering if teachers or fellow students or counselors or cousins or friends will tell of Luigi doing this as a child whenever he was in trouble for misdeeds. Its not a far stretch that he may have figured out it was the quickest way to circumvent consequences, especially if it worked with his earliest caregivers, usually a mother, who could immediately become quite protective and reassuring in response. I don't imagine it worked very well with the police officers.

 

[sas0807]

Does anyone know for sure what came first the surfing accident or the surgery?
Not that it matters, of course. Just curious.

The surfing incident was first. I believe he had the condition mainly under control until the surfing accident and a subsequent slip on a piece of paper which prompted him to seek treatment and ultimately surgery.

 

[MassGuy]

Does anyone know for sure what came first the surfing accident or the surgery?
Not that it matters, of course. Just curious.

I don’t think it was a surfing accident (unless there’s a prior incident I don’t know about). But while he was in Hawaii he apparently took a surfing lesson and it cause his back to flare up for like a week.

The surgery came later, as he told his roommate that he was trying to get strong in preparation for it.

 

[Furore]

Does anyone know for sure what came first the surfing accident or the surgery?
Not that it matters, of course. Just curious.

The friend he lived with in Hawaii said he was laid up after a surfing lesson for a week in bed with bad back pain. LM disappeared and sent him images of his back surgery and told this friend about it after this fact. But it is unclear/verified whether he had any back problems prior to the surfing.

 

[x_files]

He went to college in Philadelphia. He worked remotely from HI, iirc. He had one surfing lesson, and by reports, that laid him up for a week. I don’t think he went there for the surfing. Moo.

I still am unsure whether wanting to live in tropical warm place with his friends is an issue. I'm sure the island is filed with others who still love their families on the mainland.

 

[Jamie737]

That would be a great idea.

The irony here is that in addition to the ludicrous profits the insurers make, the amount of sheer waste in the system is pretty breathtaking. Without insurance denials and pre-authorizations premiums would be at least double what they are.

 

[Parsnip]

I still am unsure whether wanting to live in tropical warm place with his friends is an issue. I'm sure the island is filed with others who still love their families on the mainland.

But do they also cut them off to the point where their mothers report them missing? Idk, @x_files . You are a thoughtful contributor. I think we are looking at the evidence differently. Jmo.

 

[soap mama]

I don’t think it was a surfing accident (unless there’s a prior incident I don’t know about). But while he was in Hawaii he apparently took a surfing lesson and it cause his back to flare up for like a week.

The surgery came later, as he told his roommate that he was trying to get strong in preparation for it

And some people throw their back out shole
Sneezing or picking up something off the floor.
He's an entitled brat who thinks he is a savior.
Jury will see right through this and convict him.

 

[citizen_sleuth]

Does anyone know for sure what came first the surfing accident or the surgery?
Not that it matters, of course. Just curious.

Luigi Mangione, Suspect in CEO Killing, Withdrew From a Life of Privilege and Promise

The suspect, Luigi Mangione, was an Ivy League tech graduate from a prominent Maryland family who in recent months had suffered physical and psychological pain.

www.nytimes.com

<snipped>
Mr. Martin said that Mr. Mangione left Hawaii in the summer of 2023, presumably for an operation on his back. In August of that year, Mr. Martin said, he checked in via text to see how his friend was doing, “and he sent me back pictures of his back surgery.”

 

[Sillybilly]

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[arielilane]

I find myself reflecting on how and in what ways is LM similar to and different from a school shooter?

In the field of threat assessment, there is the concept of a "pathway to violence." This starts with a grievance and then progresses until the actual attack. Ideally, someone will notice the signs of someone being on this path, and intervene. If that doesn't happen, a violent attack will result.

A google search on the term "pathway to violence" will pull up all sorts of information.

Here is one diagram of it, from the University of Illinois at Chicago (UIC) Department of Psychiatry

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On December 14, 2012, Adam Lanza killed his own mother and then he committed a mass shooting at the Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, CT.

Is LM any different from AL?

No, not to me.

moo