NY - UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson fatally shot in Midtown. #8 *Arrest*

[m00c0w]

If the jail cot wasn't great for his back, he may legitimately be in pain. (No excuse for murder whether he's feigning or not).

Yeah, I meant that as maybe an alternative explanation for the sudden onset instead of faking it.

 

[NuttMegg]

Young man with mental illness and a gun lashed out at the world. Sounds exactly like other shooters, sadly.

jmopinion

Well, one of those ~20 1st graders was shot 11 times by Lanza. I'm willing to see a kind of spectrum, this is really different, way off the scale from the baby killers (Watts, no gun) (Todt, no gun), school/mall/church/concert/disco shooters. This was a limited focused attack, for a reason, (in his mind), even though we are appalled. So I'm willing to sort these young men with mental illnesses into different slots along the scale. Some are worse.

 

[caradana]

DBM until we see what’s what

 

[MassGuy]

<modsnip - quoted post was removed>
Except they weren’t his own words. If you’re talking about that alleged manifesto from yesterday, it’s fake.

Unverified Luigi Mangione Substack "manifesto" shared online—What we know

Blog post described as "luigi mangione's last words" was shared widely on social media, despite seemingly being published after Mangione's arrest.

www.newsweek.com

 

[Knox]

Definitely, as we age, the implications change. Our priorities change, and our goals change.

Unfortunately, the financial horizon changes as well. Will our savings be depleted in order to live longer?

I’ve read a lot about United Healthcare stats since this happened. The comparisons to other big hitters in the insurance industry in some cases, were appalling. This type of information hadn’t captured my attention before this happened. I wonder if UH will change some of their policies in response to the negative publicity? Will they lose market share as a result?

 

[lonetraveler]

I saw a 6 pack too! I had sciatica for 4 or 5 months very painful. but manageable. I was late 50s at the time. I couldn't have road a bike or hike. nope. maybe at 26 I don't know. I healed very quick when young. probably did more than my doc advised. yep hardhead.

I've had three lower back surgeries and one cervical spinal surgery, I have rods in my cervical and lumbar spine. I had to go out on disability at my job, pain can be unbearable. I can totally understand any depression over what you could do before the surgery vs. what you can do after the surgeries. JMO

 

[Parsnip]

Unfortunately, the financial horizon changes as well. Will our savings be depleted in order to live longer?

I’ve read a lot about United Healthcare stats since this happened. The comparisons to other big hitters in the insurance industry in some cases, were appalling. This type of information hadn’t captured my attention before this happened. I wonder if UH will change some of their policies in response to the negative publicity? Will they lose market share as a result?

Idk about you, @Knox , but I did look up our holdings to see if they are in our portfolio. They are not.

 

[Warwick7]

Thank you for posting this link. The others did not work for me. I hope everyone who has not read it will do so. Its impossible to understand this act without a look into what lead this otherwise promising young man to commit such a seemingly heinous act. My prayers go out to all and I cannot but hope this in some way brings about more compassionate policies involving healthcare decisions.

This is inevitably true. Someone earlier mentioned Bonnie and Clyde. To go back and read her life story, what she went through as a child, what was done to her as a child and a teen, helps one to understand how a human, like her, did commit such grossly heinous acts. I can't approve of what Bonnie did. I can't approve what LM did by shooting a man In cold blood, but I can understand it.

 

[arielilane]

UnitedHealthcare CEO shooting: Unanswered questions remain about Luigi Mangione

Luigi Mangione was arrested and charged with murder on Monday in connection with the killing of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson last week. There are still many unanswered questions that remain in the case.

www.yahoo.com

12/10/2024

 

[Spacemonkey1975]

Also the older coffee drinking crowd at McDonalds likely picks up on many many things that most of us might not as we hurry along grabbing breakfast and dashing out. They live there so probably know the bus stops there across the way and maybe many mornings they sit there chatting over coffee and see a crowd come in from the bus stop. Let's say none have masks except this guy, he sits in a back corner and is overly dressed.. had over his eyebrows, facemask on, several layers. He was out of place.

I’m from a town 35 miles west, my local McDonald’s has the same vibe. Those old guys are in no rush and have plenty of time to observe

 

[Jo in Calif]

UnitedHealthcare CEO shooting updates: Luigi Mangione indicted for murder 'as an act of terrorism' and other charges in New York

The 26-year-old has been charged with murder in the Dec. 4 of killing of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson.

www.yahoo.com

 

[Knox]

ABC News is reporting they have not found any references to UHC in LM's on-line writings.
Site: ABC News LM On-Line Comments

CEO shooting suspect Luigi Mangione appeared to discuss spine issues on Reddit​

ABC News did not find any posts mentioning UnitedHealthcare, the largest U.S. health insurance company, in an online archive of the page appearing to belong to Mangione

Curious why he targeted BT. When I first heard about his back surgery, I thought ok, he probably had UH coverage, but that doesn’t appear to be the case.

 

[Spacemonkey1975]

Stressed enough to wet his britches. Anybody find his inmate booking info?

I think it’s the denim dye pattern, not that I’m a pee stain splatter expert or anything

 

[MassGuy]

Accused CEO Killer Penned Creepy 'To-Do' List Before Murder

The statement, allegedly written by the 26-year-old shooting suspect, called his plan “fairly trivial.”

www.thedailybeast.com

 

[JDG]

The problem with spinal fusion is that by fixing the one vertebra to the other, you transfer all the natural movement from that part of the spine to the next vertebra. So, if you have a L5/S1 fusion, eventually L4/L5’s disc tends to fail and so on.

For that reason it is preferred to delay fusion surgery until it’s a last resort. If a patient has bladder or bowel symptoms indicating nerve root pressure on the base of the spinal cord, surgery becomes an emergency - LM knew this and mentions telling doctors about bladder symptoms to sway their recommendations for treatment.

Was his surgery mostly an ‘attention getter’ then??

He was unaware of post operative pain/limitations?

 

[Spacemonkey1975]

BROUGHT DOWN BY A HASH BROWN!

Love it.

Not even a good hash brown! I’m no snob either, I love an egg McMuffin

 

[Pavelsky]

You know, when a 25-26 year old male becomes increasingly rigid rather than more nuanced in his beliefs, is increasingly belligerent towards "others", is suddenly nomadic and self-isolating when he used to be social and outgoing, is privy to "hidden" information and/or knowledge that no one else seems to "get", and he shows increasingly paranoid behaviors with apparent grandiose delusions, I typically suspect he's had a sudden break from reality. His reported highly anxious demeanor, his likely peeing his pants, and his erratic and irrational behaviors following the crime (i.e. holding onto all of the evidence), is also atypical. It makes me suspect he could have recent onset schizophrenia.

Not trying to look for something to excuse what he did - schizophrenia isn't a disqualifier from being prosecuted for murder as far as I know - but man he sure went downhill fast.

JMO.

That was my thought as well…

 

[Herat]

The problem with spinal fusion is that by fixing the one vertebra to the other, you transfer all the natural movement from that part of the spine to the next vertebra. So, if you have a L5/S1 fusion, eventually L4/L5’s disc tends to fail and so on.

For that reason it is preferred to delay fusion surgery until it’s a last resort. If a patient has bladder or bowel symptoms indicating nerve root pressure on the base of the spinal cord, surgery becomes an emergency - LM knew this and mentions telling doctors about bladder symptoms to sway their recommendations for treatment.

"If a patient has bladder or bowel symptoms indicating nerve root pressure on the base of the spinal cord, surgery becomes an emergency - LM knew this and mentions telling doctors about bladder symptoms to sway their recommendations for treatment."

This truly becomes a very critical decision point for the surgeon. Every treatment to the body has a reaction, and every surgery has risks. If the surgeon believes he/she is trying to prevent impending lifelong urinary and/or fecal incontinence in what appears to be an otherwise vigourous and healthy young man, the surgeon will be pushed to make decisions that might not have been taken had the problem been soley pain management.

I'm surprised, but not really shocked to read that he had used information from a posting board in trying to sway the surgeon to a more radical rather than a more conservative decision.

 

[MassGuy]

His mother has/had UHC coverage and her case is horrifying and tragic. It clearly affected him deeply. Please read the latest link to LM's own explanation. Its heartbreaking.

Again. It’s not real. I have posted the real one.

There’s no evidence his mother has UHC coverage, and the manifesto you’re referring to is fake.

 

[bestill]

This case is scary!! It's so difficult to know what info is fake and what is real. Is this the first AI case to make the national stage? I am concerned about what I'm reading, what's being posted and what's real!