NY - UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson fatally shot in Midtown. #9 *Arrest*

[BOBON]

Why is it so strange that he had foreign currency? Wasn't he on a prior trip to Japan and the Philippines? People often carry unchanged money with them in their wallet

 

[otto]

Why is it so strange that he had foreign currency? Wasn't he on a prior trip to Japan and the Philippines? People often carry unchanged money with them in their wallet

It's not strange. A lot of people have foreign currency accounts.

Maybe he had a lot of cash because he intended to leave the country after the shooting. Did he have flights booked ??? but, after flirting with the hostel clerk, his face was everywhere? Facial recognition would be a problem at the airport. He slipped up, but, if he hadn't, maybe he would have left the country later that day.

There he was with pockets full of money and no where to go except MacDonalds for greasy fast food. Some of his twitter comments are about food quality and manufactured food. It seems dishonest that he emphasizes food and then survives on fast food.

 

[nhmemorymaker]

I hope this works. If not, sorry.

Luigi Mangione Has to Mean Something

The internet is better at telling stories than it is at making sense.

www.theatlantic.com

I always appreciate Atlantic articles.
And this one is sobering.

Of all the possible outcomes available, the least shared, argued over, and considered is one that the shooter alludes to himself—that what feels to all of us like an era-defining event may ultimately be unremarkable in its brutality, in its inability to effect change, and in how quickly everyone moves on.

 

[nhmemorymaker]

Im reading that he had alot of physical health issues. I can imagine him taking painkillers for that. I wonder what and how much he took and what effect that had on his mental health. Just a cent of mine. Jmo

Defintely feel the same... I have assumed a medley of pills. And possibly STOPPED taking some and causing the brain fog and propensity for violence.
My guess, his parents will step in here to collect all the medical background from the actual medical and / or pill provide, and get THEIR own lawyers.
. THIS will become his Defense.

 

[Luna20]

Following this from the UK.

Having executed his plan and disappeared very effectively, I'm amazed that the suspect's movements after the event were so sloppy. He didn't get rid of the fake ID's and the weapon and hung around in public places such as that McDonalds. One would have expected him to lay very low and perhaps change his appearance too.

I'm also curious to know how he was cognisant with the victim's movements that day, perhaps he was aware of the event BT was attending and just decided to wait it out, but I do wonder if he wasn't acting alone.

R.I.P. Brian Thompson

It’s odd that he would choose to go to the popular all American McDonald’s chain, and without a disguise. If that was what he was craving he could have at least ordered take-out.

He must have wanted to be caught to appear as a savior and a hero to the world of healthcare.

 

[nhmemorymaker]

Given that yoga can also involve stretching the spine, is this likely to have worsened his condition?

IF he "played by the rules", it should have been fine. But my guess is that he did not. He kept searching for relief.
Surgical recovery is pretty clear on the "do's and don'ts".

 

[Marantz4250b]

I have never tried but I very much doubt any hotel would give out information about a guest staying there or even confirm they are, would imagine there is data/privacy laws. No chance he would have got the Marriott to do the above

If they didn't the cops would simply get a warrant for the info.

 

[Marantz4250b]

The United States is the only developed country in the world that doesn't recognize health care as a basic human right. We need to fix that and we can.

Absolutely! Healthcare - I mean the actual provision of it as opposed to drug and equipment manufacturers - is, as you say, a basic human right. It's just human decency towards one another.

 

[nhmemorymaker]

I have no doubt that, after aggravating a childhood spinal weakness, he had difficulty coping. However, he continued to participate in sports that ultimately led to a physical disability.

Given his age of 26, he probably expected medical science to restore him to perfect health. Indeed, 8 days post-surgery he claimed to be fully recovered. Online surgery related info states caution for 6 months. He wants to be a miracle man who had surgery at a young age, was immediately cured, and never suffered spinal disability or pain again.

His twitter comments lean towards endorsing magic mushrooms rather than alcohol, so it's unlikely that he was cured. In fact, he may have disregarded medical advice and resumed sports too soon.

Ten months after the surgery, he stopped bragging about the miracles of the surgery. Two months after that, he went silent.

It's not much of a stretch to think that he started taking magic mushrooms and other similar drugs (not cocaine or alcohol), and somehow convinced himself that he could follow the thinking of the unabomber to create a new world order.

He's not mentally ill. He embraced radical thinking and acted in what he calls "brutal honesty" by shooting a stranger in the back.

The more we learn the more we "see". At some point, I think our thoughts are going to get wayyy "off topic" but seriously relevant, none the less...
Your screenshot of his twitter statements just start the nose dive into "what does this mean", and how will it influence his defense.
His own words are particulary relevant to my thinking, right now:
Then what topics does the 21st Century mind explore?
I'd say evolutionary psychology, PRIMITIVE NEUROSCIENCE, and information Networks.

And the drugs. What medley and what mixes??
If he lets down the guard of angry Robin Hood, and lets the Defense concentrate on this mental distortion...not mental illness, but a sudden psychosis brought on by pain and drugs.... a plea could really benefit him .

 

[pseudo_hum]

I wonder if the activist mentality of Ivy league professors contributed to his antisocial mental state.

It's not strange. A lot of people have foreign currency accounts.

Maybe he had a lot of cash because he intended to leave the country after the shooting. Did he have flights booked ??? but, after flirting with the hostel clerk, his face was everywhere? Facial recognition would be a problem at the airport. He slipped up, but, if he hadn't, maybe he would have left the country later that day.

There he was with pockets full of money and no where to go except MacDonalds for greasy fast food. Some of his twitter comments are about food quality and manufactured food. It seems dishonest that he emphasizes food and then survives on fast food.

Agreed. IMO, his primary reason for the McDonalds visit was to use the wifi. All McDonald's have decent free wifi and its convenient.

 

[Marantz4250b]

That's a very far-reaching stipulation. What if a family member was charged/brought to trial and acquitted? It would effectively penalise someone legally innocent. It makes one wonder what was in her mind.

Haven't read the article so I don't know what the terms of distribution were, perhaps it was to be paid out ver years. She died ages ago, though, so I'd assume it's already been distributed so it has no effect on him.

And, even if it was he's going away for the rest of his life so it will be no loss if he doesn't get his share as there will be very little to spend it on.

 

[Marantz4250b]

Below is one of the few twitter comments that he left on his profile. He's jealous that low-hanging-fruit math theorems were solved 2500 years ago. There are plenty of unsolved math problems today, but he's apparently unable to solve them. What he wants is fame for something as important as deriving a theorem that is taught to children aged 12-14.

Since he can't have fame for solving easy math theorems, he wants to ponder new problems that might make him as famous as Pythagorus.

Next, he turns to the Unabomber Manifesto and decides that the information in the manifesto is true, which inspires him to connect that ideology with a modern day problem. What modern day problem does he know best? Dealing with insurance claims. He puts two and two together and makes five because he thinks he's solving a modern day problem as important as the Pythagorus Theorem.

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Massive, massive egotist!

 

[DizzyB]

Agreed. IMO, his primary reason for the McDonalds visit was to use the wifi. All McDonald's have decent free wifi and it’s convenient.

He had been unable to get a hotel room as none were available when he tried to check in. He asked if he could wait until one was ready and the clerk said no. He then headed over to the McDonalds.

 

[Florida_marlin]

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It's not strange. A lot of people have foreign currency accounts.

Maybe he had a lot of cash because he intended to leave the country after the shooting. Did he have flights booked ??? but, after flirting with the hostel clerk, his face was everywhere? Facial recognition would be a problem at the airport. He slipped up, but, if he hadn't, maybe he would have left the country later that day.

There he was with pockets full of money and no where to go except MacDonalds for greasy fast food. Some of his twitter comments are about food quality and manufactured food. It seems dishonest that he emphasizes food and then survives on fast food.

I still have some Euros from a trip,I took in May in my backpack that I carry everywhere. Awaiting the next trip, instead of getting clobbered with more exchange fees

 

[no nonsense]

Has this been shared? (apologies if it’s a duplicate). Its also from the S.F. chronicle but that’s behind a paywall Luigi Mangione was ID’d by San Francisco cops days before alleged UnitedHealthcare CEO killer was arrested: report

 

[nhmemorymaker]

The other issue I have with this shooting, and it's kind of a small issue. I'm wondering why CEO Brian Thompson wore a bright blue blazer that morning. Is that color really a professional color to give a speech at your conference, at one of the most important events of the year? Is bright blue really a professional color? I mean was he going to go back and change after breakfast, or what? I kind of doubt it, cuz it doesn't seem like he would have much time to do that.

So to me, the color looks like he didn't intend on going to the conference. To me, that color looks like he might have been involved in it. I feel like that color was a tip to the shooter, like, watch out for him, he's the guy wearing the bright blue blazer. I mean he was being investigated for insider trading, so we have to consider all options.

we did discuss this over and over....
Many folks pointed out that it was the UHC corporate color, and the attire was company affiliation.

 

[MAHBOOBOO]

I hear what you're saying but why does the population allow this situation to persist if there are so many millions of people are so deeply against it?

Obviously I can't speak for others, but personally I have never and don't know anyone that has been given the raw end of a deal by a health insurance company. So the U.S. population is definitely NOT in agreement as to whether this is a legitimate problem or not.

 

[Florida_marlin]

I think you nailed it. I believe, moo, that he has a grandiosity complex. Even in the “part 2”, when he mentioned finally agreeing that he may be standing on the shoulders of giants, he still couldn’t concede that Ancient discoveries were all that great (just download the knowledge), and couldn’t concede that prior generations of man might have been solving problems the HE couldn’t even conceive. Now that he has “discovered” Pythagoras’ work, it’s elementary and he holds it in contempt. He is a wannabe. Jealous of other’s accomplishments. Wanted to be first at SOMETHING. So murder a health insurance CEO. There ya go. Said so in his “manifesto”. Except, he’s far from the first coward who has sneaked up on someone and shot them in the back.

 

[Justice101]

It’s odd that he would choose to go to the popular all American McDonald’s chain, and without a disguise. If that was what he was craving he could have at least ordered take-out.

He must have wanted to be caught to appear as a savior and a hero to the world of healthcare.

He had his mask on him just pulled to the side so that he could eat his food.

He would have eaten outside but as I recall it was 20 degrees or something that morning.

But then again, even with his mask on, he would have been identified anyway.

I wonder if he saw his crime photos online or on TV while he was evading?

 

[dmac55]

Off topic
My experience in very lay person terms re: spinal cord impingement & spinal fusion

I had an impingement of my spinal cord although in my case from a different cause than Luigi’s- (mine was from degeneration of my vertebrae due to old age)
How a spinal cord impingement manifests physically, is dependent on the part of the spinal cord being impinged

I also had a spinal fusion to correct it-
Before the surgery no activity restrictions except my own comfort which varied
After the surgery, the only activity restrictions were until the fusion was complete (determined via follow up imaging) About 3-6months
No other activity restrictions at all.