NY - UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson fatally shot in Midtown. #9 *Arrest*

[arielilane]

Luigi Mangione: Cops Might Have Planted Critical Piece of Evidence

The Ivy League graduate arrested on suspicion of assassinating the CEO of UnitedHealthcare took issue with two of the prosecutor’s claims during his first court appearance on Monday night. Luigi Mangione, 26, was arrested earlier that day at a McDonald’s in Altoona, Penn., carrying a backpack...

news.yahoo.com

12/11/2024

 

[Sunshynn]

Has the notebook referenced in the manifesto been found? Was it with him when he was apprehended at McDonald's?

 

[BOBON]

The weapon, IDs, manifesto and notebook in his backpack make me believe that he was waiting to be caught. It seems too odd to leave all this up to chance. He had all the evidence in the bag and we know from the prior occasion that he purposefully got rid of the old backpack, jacket and monopoly money so why stop there?

 

[Janitor101]

He didn't happen to have visited the Dickey law office as one of the businesses while he was still tooling around?

Lol...I don't know but I am wondering if he bought his laptop there.

 

[mrstfs]

Has the notebook referenced in the manifesto been found? Was it with him when he was apprehended at McDonald's?

Yes it was found too. Seattle1 linked a cnn story yesterday that referenced it contained a note that he thought about using a bomb initially.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/12/11/us/unitedhealthcare-ceo-brian-thompson-shooter-wednesday?cid=ios_app

 

[BrianJohnson]

but change only happens when people make it happen.

What change will happen? UHC will just hire a new CEO and prices will probably go up because of the tens of millions they will have to spend on CPO’s a year to guard their execs

 

[Sunshynn]

The weapon, IDs, manifesto and notebook in his backpack make me believe that he was waiting to be caught. It seems too odd to leave all this up to chance. He had all the evidence in the bag and we know from the prior occasion that he purposefully got rid of the old backpack, jacket and monopoly money so why stop there?

MOO - but I wonder if keeping everything on him was purposeful and that he was planning to off more people?
Yes, his manifesto references United but what are the chances that he might have continued updating it after each hit? Like, United and (insert next victim here) had it coming?
After all, he took enough time before the murder of BT to write on the bullets...which is why he ditched the old backpack with the Monopoly money - it was part of the message he was trying to send.
JMO

 

[JoeFromLB]

He's not a first at anything. He's just another who stalked a man, then shot him in the back. As a result, he will be removed from society and placed in a concrete box where he will be prevented from shooting more strangers in the back. He will be surrounded by people just like him.

I think that the shooter thought he was so clever that he would never get caught. That's why he started shaking when he was caught - he didn't have a plan for that situation.

Regarding what he describes as "brutal honesty" ... it seems more like looking for someone to blame for his poor choices. He got the surgery he wanted, but not the result.

I couldn't agree more. An entitled narcissist who fancies himself an important historical figure, after his hero the Unabomber. A "revolutionary" who set things right by murdering one of the oppressors of humanity. In reality, he's a nobody. Let him stew in prison until he's an old man.

 

[brittanyoshell]

What change will happen? UHC will just hire a new CEO and prices will probably go up because of the tens of millions they will have to spend on CPO’s a year to guard their execs

That's why I said I don't agree with it. This was his idea of how to make change happen, I didn't say it would work.

 

[bestill]

He went to The University of Pennsylvania in Philadelphia -- NOT Penn State which is not at the same level as Penn the Ivy League university.

Correct, I deleted the post.

 

[MassGuy]

Squeegie expects us to believe that some random LE in Altoona had evidence to plant on him?
His arrogance knows no limits.

They apparently planted his fingerprints at the scene too.

I imagine we’ll be hearing about a DNA match at some point soon as well.

And ballistics before that.

 

[Sunshynn]

Yes it was found too. Seattle1 linked a cnn story yesterday that referenced it contained a note that he thought about using a bomb initially.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/12/11/us/unitedhealthcare-ceo-brian-thompson-shooter-wednesday?cid=ios_app

Thank you for this. I missed it yesterday evening.

 

[LittleSeaTree]

Gosh this one has me somewhat ambivalent.
On one hand I am and always will be a huge supporter of the law and LE and I am applauding them for apprehending so quickly, however on another hand I am a smidge disappointed. I can understand that this might be taboo and rub some here the wrong way and I mean no disrespect, but I am not totally surprised at the mass public reaction to this whole circus. On one hand I believe that nobody has the right to take the life of another and if they do they must face the consequences, but on another hand the whole healthcare "murdering by proxy" "eat the rich" etc... stuff is just so in your face it's hard to ignore and easy to understand. Look around both online and in your daily life and you will immediately come across someone who either them self or a loved one has been impacted by greedy healthcare issues. It's such a big issue and I hate to say it but this sort of thing was gonna happen eventually. Not just the alleged perp here but PEOPLE on a whole have had enough. Sure they don't all go out and commit murder thankfully (although many do resort to crime as a result) but it's not a surprise here that someone got pushed to the end of their own personal tether over it and took the most extreme measures.
Ugh I don't know, I just kinda get it and I hate that I feel that way. That said, I agree with the law and whatever the law hands to LM. I also agree with the people who aren't entirely condemning the act of "fighting back".
I am however hoping that this doesn't lead to any copycat attempts as not only is that wrong as a whole, unintended targets could get caught in the crossfire

Ultimately though my heart is with all the members of BT's family and friends... As well as those of LM and I'm sorry, but also LM himself... Also each and every single person who has been done over by healthcare companies... patients, staff and medical professionals alike.

Sorry if my own opinions here offend anybody, I'm struggling as I've not been this conflicted before and feel like a huge hypocrite <3

Perfectly articulated-each bit!

 

[m00c0w]

The weapon, IDs, manifesto and notebook in his backpack make me believe that he was waiting to be caught. It seems too odd to leave all this up to chance. He had all the evidence in the bag and we know from the prior occasion that he purposefully got rid of the old backpack, jacket and monopoly money so why stop there?

I think he was actively working on the manifesto, which is why it was so short and handwritten. It’s not like he had a dozen-page printed manuscript. The fake IDs and weapon indicate to me that he clearly was not done, and was just preparing for his next hit. If he was hoping to get caught, he’d probably have admitted who he was outright, and certainly wouldn’t be going through the extradition song and dance. To become the folk hero, he has to accept responsibility. He hasn’t.

JMO

 

[bestill]

Agreed. LE has asked the public to come forward if they can shine a light on his whereabouts while he was tooling around Pennsylvania. It was also mentioned that he had visited several businesses while there so it will be interesting to find out if he had hatched a plan to target another victim.

I was incorrect and I deleted the post. He went to the University of Pennsylvania. Sorry for the confusion.

 

[citizen_sleuth]

Police Say Suspect’s Notebook Described Rationale for C.E.O. Killing

“It’s targeted, precise and doesn’t risk innocents,” said a sentence in a spiral notebook belonging to the man charged with murdering Brian Thompson.

www.nytimes.com

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“What do you do? You wack the CEO at the annual parasitic bean-counter convention. It’s targeted, precise, and doesn’t risk innocents,” was one of the passages written in the notebook, the officials said.

 

[MassGuy]

That's why I said I don't agree with it. This was his idea of how to make change happen, I didn't say it would work.

What’s ironic is that he seemed to idolize the Unabomber, who also sought change through violence.

LM is smart enough to know that good old Teddy boy failed, but attempted to do the same type of thing.

So how he had any expectation he’d accomplish his goal is beyond me. But perhaps that goes to his mental state.

 

[MassGuy]

I think he was actively working on the manifesto, which is why it was so short and handwritten. It’s not like he had a dozen-page printed manuscript. The fake IDs and weapon indicate to me that he clearly was not done, and was just preparing for his next hit. If he was hoping to get caught, he’d probably have admitted who he was outright, and certainly wouldn’t be going through the extradition song and dance. To become the folk hero, he has to accept responsibility. He hasn’t.

JMO

I think this was scribbled out not long before he was captured, as he knew the walls were closing in.

If he was planning something else, it seems he wasn’t planning on surviving it.

 

[Tiff23fr]

Things like this would not happen if people like Brian Thompson went to jail for white collar crime for delaying and denying tactics. The whole private equity, hospital management and for profit insurance needs an overhaul.

I understand and agree with the overhaul - I believe most do.

Thoughts on the first sentence:
IMO
The WSJ was all over the situation with BT and UHC placing it back in the public spotlight in February 2024. The DOJ was moving forward on BT Et al. The legal process was underway, and I personally feel BT was headed for jail in the next few years, UNLESS he was working with the DOJ by this point.

IMO, Luigi felt he was above the DOJ and addressed the situation with his own hands. I don’t feel he is suicidal, and believe he was prepared to go to jail whenever it occured. The punk wants the last word. He feels he is a revolutionary, he has a plan to continue getting his message out, and I bet he has banked on how relatable getting “screwed over” by the big guy will feel to his new circle which he will attempt to social engineer from the inside. HE should be 100% isolated IMO.

 

[mrstfs]

I think this was scribbled out not long before he was captured, as he knew the walls were closing in.

If he was planning something else, it seems he wasn’t planning on surviving it.

ITA especially the way he started it “to the feds” he knew the FBI was involved at that point.