NY - UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson fatally shot in Midtown NYC, 4 Dec 2024 #12 *Arrest*

[al66pine]

LM's Letter to the Feds

Paraphrasing from it:
--- Saving you some time, doing this alone, no need to look for accomplices.---

Altho "alone" may or may not be true, the rest of ^ is laughable,
as if LM thought FBI or any LE agency would conclude:
--- Oh, good, a lone wolf, we won't bother looking for anyone else.---


Even Andy Taylor & Barney Fife in Mayberry would not rule out searching for others who may have been involved.
imo

 

[Sundog]

For some reason, that was my first thought upon reading the lengths he went to to state that he was in this alone. There could have been multiple people working together. We still have never figured out how he managed to know where BT would be, and the masked suspect (I personally can’t say for sure that it’s LM) was on the phone at one point before the shooting. Although it could have just been a fake call to explain why he was standing there. MOO.

LM could have used his phone to record some details he wanted to use in his memoire -- whoops, I mean in his manifesto.

 

[GRT]

Don't shoot the messenger!

That's so funny! I wrote my previous post about not being able to bet before I started watching your video.

Back to what the guy said first; however, I've always thought that not all the photos we've seen are of the same guy, especially some with very different-looking noses.

Will it be enough for a successful defense? I'm leaning toward a conviction, but the photo of the gun that was found on LM does not look like the gun the shooter was using. He could have printed more than one gun, I suppose.

 

[GRT]

I agree.

I don’t think he had a cause. I think he had an excuse.

The deed formed in his mind and the target came later. Just how I see it, personally.

JMO

Happy New Year to everyone.

Happy New Year to you, too!!! And, to everyone else here on WS!

I'm not sure he had a "cause" either.

 

[Sunshynn]

Fingerprints from items recovered thanks to the help of surveillance footage. The ability to track him because they knew his starting point, and that distinctive bag. The bullet casings matching the gun he had in his possession. His confession notes. His fingerprints at the scene. His DNA will be found all over the place. The same fake ID used to check into the hostel found on his person, and he lied to police, attempting to use that false identification. The potential for his cell phone and laptop to provide further evidence.

This is the hard, concrete evidence against LM.
Most security cameras look like they were filmed through a potato anyway and are at weird angles.

 

[MassGuy]

This is the hard, concrete evidence against LM.
Most security cameras look like they were filmed through a potato anyway and are at weird angles.

We haven’t seen even a tiny fraction of the footage. Some of it wasn’t even released by law enforcement, but by the media directly.

I have no doubt there’s going to be real high quality stuff.

 

[MassGuy]

That's so funny! I wrote my previous post about not being able to bet before I started watching your video.

Back to what the guy said first; however, I've always thought that not all the photos we've seen are of the same guy, especially some with very different-looking noses.

Will it be enough for a successful defense? I'm leaning toward a conviction, but the photo of the gun that was found on LM does not look like the gun the shooter was using. He could have printed more than one gun, I suppose.

The gun matches ballisticslly, so there’s really no argument. The photo we’ve seen doesn’t show the silencer attached either.

 

[NuttMegg]

That's so funny! I wrote my previous post about not being able to bet before I started watching your video.

Back to what the guy said first; however, I've always thought that not all the photos we've seen are of the same guy, especially some with very different-looking noses.

Will it be enough for a successful defense? I'm leaning toward a conviction, but the photo of the gun that was found on LM does not look like the gun the shooter was using. He could have printed more than one gun, I suppose.

Oh I always repost SR, defense view. This time he's off, but the 4 photos of Marlon Brando etc were pretty funny. He was good long ago on the Watts case, he explained a lot about the plea deal, what was actually signed. Especially the document that Watts signed (and affirmed vocally in court) acknowledging that the state (DA) had enough to convict him.

 

[Sunshynn]

We haven’t seen even a tiny fraction of the footage. Some of it wasn’t even released by law enforcement, but by the media directly.

I have no doubt there’s going to be real high quality stuff.

I hope so! The hostel seemed to have a pretty high quality camera and I'm sure other places around the crime scene had some cameras, as well.
Besides, lower quality camera footage have been used to get convictions, as well. One that comes to mind is the Brittanee Drexel case - my untrained eye couldn't even make out what I was looking at from the footage.

 

[Sunshynn]

DBM - double post

 

[GRT]

This is the hard, concrete evidence against LM.
Most security cameras look like they were filmed through a potato anyway and are at weird angles.

"...filmed through a potato..."

That's a great one! I'm going to have to borrow it!

 

[NuttMegg]

Definitely. MOO.

Well I get the giggles thinking of it.

 

[Chimera]

LM's Letter to the Feds

Paraphrasing from it:
--- Saving you some time, doing this alone, no need to look for accomplices.---

Altho "alone" may or may not be true, the rest is laughable,
as if LM thought FBI or any LE agency would conclude:
--- Oh, good, lone wolf, we won't bother looking for anyone else.---


Even Andy Taylor & Barney Fife in Mayberry would not rule out searching for others who may have been involved.
imo

Bbm.
ITA.

Eta: My money is on him acting alone.
Not 100 % certain, though.

Re. the bolded : We still do not know whom he was speaking to on that phone ?
It sounds like he'd cut off contact with family and friends, so ....

Oh, and this wasn't "murder, but ..."
It was a cold blooded murder. End of.
Omo.

 

[Baby baby Jane]

yep, agree with you! i expected something better, it seemed rushed and just not great. i doubt that in the future anyone will rate this “manifesto” four stars on goodreads, lol.

It’s an “Incomplete” essay … more high school than graduate. IMO … shows that his brilliant academic mind is gone, and now unable to draw his ideas together, to a conclusion/hypothesis/solution.

 

[Sundog]

LM Address on PA. Police Criminal Complaint. Towson?

@detective.moon. @imstilla.grandma (this thread, post #11) @MassGuy
Thx for the related posts about MD. address LM (apparently) provided to LE.
Was owner of this home related to (e.g., parents of) LM; did LM live there when younger?

House was built in 1966, sold in 1987, again in 1993, then in June 2024.
If this is the right house (& if my math is mathin'), fam could have bought & moved in 1993. LM was born in 1998, so this prop’s sales history could "fit" timewise as his childhood & teen-years home. [ETA. ICBWrong.]

And w his drift from fam, LM may not have been aware house was on the market or sold, as @ detective.moon posted. Or LM may have given it to LE as a sort of “default” address, like college students sometimes do.
ICBWrong.

NOT sleuthing family, but sleuthing house & why LM might give that address.

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IIRC, someone suggested that the June 2024 sale might have been a sale to a fam member. If a friendly deal w buyer-relative was contemplated, why would owner list thru a R/E broker & be obliged to pay commission? Plus MLS shows 2024 sales price as five percent higher than asking price, which causes me to kinda sorta doubt it was cozy family arrangement.

Listing the home w all furniture/furnishings removed (except some exercise gear in basement) tells me likely owner had already vacated before the 50+ listing pix were taken.

5/15/2024.... "Listed for sale" (w. listing px)
5/20/2024.... "Contingent"
6/6/20249".... "Sold" (w sold px ~ five percent HIGHER than listing px)
Realtor.com dates differ from above by a few days, but still show about 3wks from listing to close.

Per Zillow’s MLS data: split level, 4bed/5ba/2 car gar. home w ~4450 sq.ft., on .68 a/c.

IIRC, when LM's mother reported him missing she said that she hadn't heard from him since July 2024, so I think he likely knew that they had sold the house and moved to a new home. He may not have remembered the address of the new home, it was easier to remember the address of the house that he had lived in for most of his life. That makes sense to me, even if he had visited his parents in their new home and stayed there for a little while.

 

[Chimera]

Happy New Year to you, too !!! And, to everyone else here on WS!

I'm not sure he had a "cause" either.

Gbm.

And to all of you here as well !!

Agreed with the last sentence.
LM wanted to murder a person and picked someone he thought represented the 'injustice' he chose.
I don't know that Luigi had claims denied in the past, or even if he was covered under UH ?

LM is (imo) somewhat of an outlier as no one in their normal decent mind would think murder was a good option in response to getting shafted by the system of healthcare or whatever.
Presumably most -- if not all of us -- do not walk around thinking about how we're going to kill someone over their interest rate being raised or their claim being denied !
Omo

 

[detective.moon]

happy new year everyone! looking forward to following this case with you all in 2025!

looking forward to more details (and outfits, ha) to analyse

 

[Auntie Cipation]

Re the "I don't condone murder, BUT..." issue, here's one way to look at it.

Let's say someone started a club. "The Current American Healthcare System Has Horrible Problems And Must Be Fixed."

Everyone who agrees with that premise joins the club.

Then people start making suggestions. There is no obvious approach to a solution to the problem. Most ideas (letter-writing campaigns, etc) are too weak to make a difference.

Someone suggests murdering a corporate CEO who symbolizes the problem in their view. Nearly everyone rejects that idea, horrified.

But they still have the opinion that The Current American Healthcare System Has Horrible Problems And Must Be Fixed. MOO

 

[Sundog]

happy new year everyone! looking forward to following this case with you all in 2025!

looking forward to more details (and outfits, ha) to analyse

And looking forward to justice for Brian Thompson!

 

[MassGuy]

And looking forward to justice for Brian Thompson!

Ha! Save this post for one year from today. I can't imagine justice will happen in 25, but 26 is a solid bet.