NY - UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson fatally shot in Midtown.

[clearskies1]

So where did he go on his e-bike once he hit Central Park? He had a plan.

 

[Daae]

I will continue to add the the UHC team planning the event likely stayed at the Hilton - pricing and convenience. The shooter had sensitive information about Brian - when to expect his arrival etc.

I wonder if he knew the color of his jacket as well. He identified Brian in the low light of early morning. That blue jacket was really unique.

 

[Snoopster]

I will continue to add the the UHC team planning the event likely stayed at the Hilton - pricing and convenience. The shooter had sensitive information about Brian - when to expect his arrival etc.

I agree with this.
Large corporations have their 'go-to' hotels in each city. They get good discounts. I'm betting that their investor meeting was held at the same hotel every quarter.

 

[acutename]

Couldn't disguise his fingerprints on any container, though

if he's never been printed, prints would not ID him

 

[clearskies1]

A fair amount of his face was showing in the photo at Starbucks. Someone has to know who he is.

 

[azure]

I have a friend in the industry who told me the culture at UHC is such that C-suite employees generally don't go everywhere with a security detail. Consider this JMO.

She also had the uncut video of the shooting, I declined to watch it.

Here are my thoughts:
Between Starbucks, the water bottle, the protein bar wrappers and the cell phone, this guy doesn't care if he gets caught. Add in the alleged message on the bullet casing and I'm all but certain that this is not a hit.

My first inclination was lone wolf, but usually the lone wolves are so isolated that they don't have anyone to talk to on a cell phone, so I'm putting that theory aside for now.

I see no reason why this would have anything to do with Russia, but if it did he would have "fallen" off a balcony and not been shot in the street.

Something I'm mulling over is that many Americans are anti-big pharma. Incidentally, I read today that the 'wellness' industry generates 3x more income than big pharma. How ironic. Anyhow, I think this is either very personal or this guy is being used as a totem for some larger perceived evil.

 

[MassGuy]

if he's never been printed, prints would not ID him

I think there’s a decent chance he has been printed. I wouldn’t be surprised if he had served in the military.

 

[epiphany]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1864503401624519047

 

[Deleted member 110281]

I wonder if he knew the color of his jacket as well. He identified Brian in the low light of early morning. That blue jacket was really unique.

i like where you are going with this - but many executives who have an important meeting or photo op pick this color of blazer. It's not unique. The guy knew his target.

 

[citizen_sleuth]

They seem to be very confident it does. Perhaps it was found near that water bottle he bought earlier.

Or maybe they have that event on camera.

There are at least two surveillance cameras (circled in red) in the alley (it’s more of a pedestrian plaza)

 

[whitelilac]

I think there’s a decent chance he has been printed. I wouldn’t be surprised if he had served in the military.

Don't DV's require fingerprinting? Or maybe it was just the Real ID where I was fingerprinted (in CA)

 

[Snoopster]

John Miller:

5:15 Upper West Side video shows suspect carrying a battery for an e-bike. He may live in that area or just started in that area.

Trying to get into cell phone. Have to get past passcode. Even if it’s a burner it will be big. Could also be his phone that he dropped accidentally.

Shell casings can be run through system to see if they showed up at any other crime scene.

Found complete bullets that could have DNA or partial print. Will have to wait for lab results, so video canvas is what they can do right now.

Seemed to be pretty skilled. Shooter stance. Two hand grip. Clears jams really quickly. Suggests someone comfortable and experienced with firearms. Could be law enforcement, military; someone not new to this.

They no longer believe he used a citibike.

Suspect in shooting of UnitedHealthcare CEO did not flee on a Citi Bike, law enforcement source says​

From CNN’s Brynn Gingras
The e-bike used by the suspect who shot and killed UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson was not a Citi Bike, a law enforcement official tells CNN.

As CNN previously reported, the suspect fled — first on foot, then on an e-bike — and was last seen in Central Park early this morning, according to police.

https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/unitedhealthcare-brian-thompson-death-12-04-24/index.html

The fact that they saw the perp carrying an e-bike battery and then he took a Citibike never made sense to me. No one takes there own battery to a rental bike. Also, if you have a plan to kill someone, then you absolutely want to make sure that there will be an e-bike in the bike stands where you plan to pick it up; when you plan to pick it up. I've been caught short in that regard before. The e-bikes are popular and aren't always available exactly where you want them.

ETA: Just to clarify, I, personally, did NOT have a plan to kill anybody! I may have worded this post poorly. Thanks for pointing this out @whitelilac. I'll be counting on you to point out my next major faux pas!

 

[getthefax]

Regarding that "mystery woman" I thought that was a guard or attendant standing in front of the hotel. To me it looked to be a person in uniform, with a badge or emblem of sorts.
She hurried away as any person would. No mystery there.

She was just holding a cup of coffee — didn’t look like a guard of any sort to me

They’re the worst. They did this during the first Trump assassination attempt too, casting aspersions on an innocent person in the audience.

They’re doing the same thing here, albeit a bit less blatant. Of course the article, which many people won’t read, says this:

Who is the mystery woman?

Footage of the attack shows a figure, who appears to be a woman dressed in dark clothing and holding a coffee cup, fleeing from a doorway as the assassin opens fire just meters away.

We do not yet know who this person is, but there has been no suggestion that they were involved or knew Thompson.

Indeed, they appeared to be surprised by the shooting, cowering in a doorway when the first shot rang out, before making a run for it.

Police will no doubt be desperate to identify this key witness.

Tthank you! This innocent bystander person will be hounded to no end and it’s just absurd.
Of course police will interview this witness, but holy moly the Daily Mail is terrible for this

 

[acutename]

Does anyone else think it's a little odd that he drops things that could lead back to him after what must have been a very well planned shooting? Is it possible he bought things before the murder but dropped identical items that he knew already had someone else's DNA on them?

I am wondering if those are some how fake evidence.... some one else's phone, etc. Maybe the shooter had a flight out 11:30 and he is already gone. Hard to say.

 

[whitelilac]

The fact that they saw the perp carrying an e-bike battery and then he took a Citibike never made sense to me. No one takes there own battery to a rental bike. Also, if you have a plan to kill someone, then you absolutely want to make sure that there will be an e-bike in the bike stands where you plan to pick it up; when you plan to pick it up. I've been caught short in that regard before. The e-bikes are popular and aren't always available exactly where you want them.

You've been "caught short in that regard" if "you have a plan to kill someone" ?
LOL

 

[getthefax]

Is it really that hard to find for someone who knows how to navigate the black market? ( sorry if that sounds rude, not my intent). I would not be surprised if any portion of that weapon was not registered. This seems like someone who knows how to do this.

Folks can 3-d print guns now. Suppressors too. IMO it is unlikely to be a correctly registered weapon or components, unless this person wants to be caught / viewed as a martyr of some kind (seems unlikely MOO).

 

[Snoopster]

You've been "caught short in that regard" if "you have a plan to kill someone" ?
LOL

Yeah, it really messed up my day!

 

[Torbs]

even though i believe the chances of this being related to the ransomware attack are low I can’t shake that whoever did this almost certainty had access to very sensitive information about the victim’s location and schedule, which limits the suspect pool. It is at least possible the cybercriminals still have access to UHC systems, which might explain the insider knowledge leveraged by the shooter. Very unlikely, but intriguing nonetheless.

 

[Inthedetails]

if he's never been printed, prints would not ID him

But prints can convict him.

jmo

 

[acutename]

My thoughts are along the same line. And if he went straight to the airport and got on a plane to Russia, that would explain not being fastiduous about not leaving behind trash with his potential DNA on it.

or a plane to anywhere...Arizona, Canada, Spain...